Climate Change/Mass Extinction Megathread

[Razgovory]

that is double talk Viper.  We are already experiencing species extinction at alarming rates and we have not even got to 1.5 yet.  Both on land and in the oceans.

We've been experiencing species extinction at alarming rates for the last 10,000 years.  The question is what sort of extinction level crisis are we going to experiencing.  Is it a E-O level extinction or P-T level extinction?

The rapid decline in insect levels over the last 20 years may be a sign of Permian-Triassic event.

[The Brain]

We call it Voight-Kampff for short.

[viper37]

that is double talk Viper.  We are already experiencing species extinction at alarming rates and we have not even got to 1.5 yet.  Both on land and in the oceans. 

but that is not solely due to global warming.  Deforestation increases global warming, and this is the most threatening aspect to many life forms, but it is not global warming causing the death of so many species.  Acidification of the oceans is caused mainly by global warming though, but global warming does not cause whale hunting, or whales colliding with ships.  Plastic in the oceans is not a cause of global warming, nor is any kind of pollution rejected in the atmosphere and the oceans.  The use of pesticides has nothing to do with global warming, but it is creating problems for insect populations and the birds who feed on them.  Modern agricultural practices that leaves fewer parts of fields left "vacant" for months also decreases the number of birds that used to inhabit these fields.

[mongers]

Sounds pretty serious. Maybe we should stop flying planes halfway around the world for fun.

[Razgovory]

  Modern agricultural practices that leaves fewer parts of fields left "vacant" for months also decreases the number of birds that used to inhabit these fields.

Did Quebec just discover crop-rotation?

[mongers]

Europe's ten largest carbon emitters:



Nine lignite power stations and an Irish airline. 

Article here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47783992

[Tamas]

If only the plebs haven't started flying to places and continued to stay put in their hovels.

[Tamas]

Also that chart shows you then, how fucking stupid most greens are. They had ALL the German nuclear plants closed because of a TSUNAMI IN JAPAN. Now they burn coal instead.

[viper37]

  Modern agricultural practices that leaves fewer parts of fields left "vacant" for months also decreases the number of birds that used to inhabit these fields.

Did Quebec just discover crop-rotation?

there's less crop rotation than before.

[Syt]

Also that chart shows you then, how fucking stupid most greens are. They had ALL the German nuclear plants closed because of a TSUNAMI IN JAPAN. Now they burn coal instead.

I believe that the German Greens have been in favor of quitting both nuclear and coal power. I recall that they positioned themselves that quitting nuclear energy mustn't lead to increased energy production from coal, and that both should be phased out a.s.a.p. for renewables.

[Tamas]

Also that chart shows you then, how fucking stupid most greens are. They had ALL the German nuclear plants closed because of a TSUNAMI IN JAPAN. Now they burn coal instead.

I believe that the German Greens have been in favor of quitting both nuclear and coal power. I recall that they positioned themselves that quitting nuclear energy mustn't lead to increased energy production from coal, and that both should be phased out a.s.a.p. for renewables.

Fine, but surely in the interim period leading up to a giant heavily industrialised, advanced country being run 100% from windmills and solar panels, nuclear is the answer, not bloody coal.

[The Brain]

Also that chart shows you then, how fucking stupid most greens are. They had ALL the German nuclear plants closed because of a TSUNAMI IN JAPAN. Now they burn coal instead.

I believe that the German Greens have been in favor of quitting both nuclear and coal power. I recall that they positioned themselves that quitting nuclear energy mustn't lead to increased energy production from coal, and that both should be phased out a.s.a.p. for renewables.

Fine, but surely in the interim period leading up to a giant heavily industrialised, advanced country being run 100% from windmills and solar panels, nuclear is the answer, not bloody coal.

No that would be a sensible position.

[grumbler]

No that would be a sensible position.

The extremists among the Greens don't want "a sensible position."  They want you to panic, and have said so using just those words.

[Valmy]

Also that chart shows you then, how fucking stupid most greens are. They had ALL the German nuclear plants closed because of a TSUNAMI IN JAPAN. Now they burn coal instead.

I believe that the German Greens have been in favor of quitting both nuclear and coal power. I recall that they positioned themselves that quitting nuclear energy mustn't lead to increased energy production from coal, and that both should be phased out a.s.a.p. for renewables.

Surely in the current situation phasing out coal should be a much higher priority than phasing out zero emissions energy sources. What kind of idiotic positioning are they taking? Do they want to help the environment or play a central role in environmental destruction? Because that position makes it hard to tell.

[Josquius]

Its sad, but the Greens were coming around to nuclear power until Fukushima. When the anti-science kicked in again