The Off Topic Topic

[Tonitrus]

Maybe the people of the cities should decide what things they desperately need?

Communist.

[GOP]Maybe the property owners of the cities should decide what things they desperately need[/GOP]

[Sheilbh]

Adding Spain to my list of surprisingly expensive train travel. €75-80 for a return (same day) to a city one hour away for a day trip.

Feels like Italy is holding out as both relatively affordable and good

[Josquius]

Is it just me or was the 90s the last decade of the old world?
Thinking back to when I was a kid I can remember still seeing aspects of the world that was, albeit on their last legs by that time. Before globalisation had really gone into hyper drive, the worst impacts of cars had truly hit, etc...
The internet is of course the big one. It had effects even beyond those immediately apparent.
But old women wearing headscarves, small towns that were actual towns, strong dialects, and so on...you just don't see this sort of thing anymore.
Or does everyone get this feeling from their childhood?

[mongers]

Adding Spain to my list of surprisingly expensive train travel. €75-80 for a return (same day) to a city one hour away for a day trip.

Feels like Italy is holding out as both relatively affordable and good

Yes your ticket seems high, but maybe they've introduced time dependent ticketing (or whatever the word is) ?

[Tamas]

Lol Josq wahrs with you and cars, man? Don't you own one yourself?

Also by the way, I have learned that the bus ticket from Bracknell to Slough (check the massive distance between these two metropolises for context) is £15.

[crazy canuck]

Is it just me or was the 90s the last decade of the old world?
Thinking back to when I was a kid I can remember still seeing aspects of the world that was, albeit on their last legs by that time. Before globalisation had really gone into hyper drive, the worst impacts of cars had truly hit, etc...
The internet is of course the big one. It had effects even beyond those immediately apparent.
But old women wearing headscarves, small towns that were actual towns, strong dialects, and so on...you just don't see this sort of thing anymore.
Or does everyone get this feeling from their childhood?

The world has changed in so many ways in the last 30 years. For me, it is how rapid the change has been that is striking.

[Iormlund]

Adding Spain to my list of surprisingly expensive train travel. €75-80 for a return (same day) to a city one hour away for a day trip.

Feels like Italy is holding out as both relatively affordable and good

Was that a high-speed train ticket? It's absurdly convenient, but unless you take it for work or way in advance it is pretty expensive.

The cheap method is to take the bus or do car-sharing.

[Duque de Bragança]

Adding Spain to my list of surprisingly expensive train travel. €75-80 for a return (same day) to a city one hour away for a day trip.

Feels like Italy is holding out as both relatively affordable and good

Was that a high-speed train ticket? It's absurdly convenient, but unless you take it for work or way in advance it is pretty expensive.

The cheap method is to take the bus or do car-sharing.

I am not surprised. A Madrid to first stop "beyond the crossroads of the World" i.e Zamora, so about 2 hours by the hybrid high-speed/conventional speed train can reach those highs if not taken very in advance and/or in a off-peak hour.

[HVC]

Lol Josq wahrs with you and cars, man? Don't you own one yourself?

He thinks the french invented them.

[Syt]

The world has changed in so many ways in the last 30 years. For me, it is how rapid the change has been that is striking.

We went to the shop to grab lunch today. Saw a girl wearing a Nirvana hoodie - she looked so young, Cobain was probably 10+ years in the ground when she was born.

[garbon]

Is it just me or was the 90s the last decade of the old world?
Thinking back to when I was a kid I can remember still seeing aspects of the world that was, albeit on their last legs by that time. Before globalisation had really gone into hyper drive, the worst impacts of cars had truly hit, etc...
The internet is of course the big one. It had effects even beyond those immediately apparent.
But old women wearing headscarves, small towns that were actual towns, strong dialects, and so on...you just don't see this sort of thing anymore.
Or does everyone get this feeling from their childhood?

From what I've read it sounds like Britain was very sad, old world in the early 90s. Very different from my suburban American childhood.

[Josquius]

Lol Josq wahrs with you and cars, man? Don't you own one yourself?

Also by the way, I have learned that the bus ticket from Bracknell to Slough (check the massive distance between these two metropolises for context) is £15.

Not by choice. Even despite the modern world forcing car ownership on many I'd like to go without.

My hate for cars is holistic. The damage they've done to society and the planet.

[Tamas]

As we discussed, I find that a profoundly city-dweller view. For people not huddled up in urban centres, it opened up their wider region to exist in.

[Josquius]

As we discussed, I find that a profoundly city-dweller view. For people not huddled up in urban centres, it opened up their wider region to exist in.

I'd say that is the city dweller view. Dismissive of how much life could be found in smaller towns before the coming of the car.

[Duque de Bragança]

Lol Josq wahrs with you and cars, man? Don't you own one yourself?

He thinks the french invented them.

Hush you! 

Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot
Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot (26 February 1725 – 2 October 1804) was a French inventor who built the world's first full-size and working self-propelled mechanical land-vehicle, the "Fardier à vapeur" – effectively the world's first automobile.[1][a]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas-Joseph_Cugnot