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Started by Tamas, June 15, 2015, 11:27:32 AM

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Legbiter

Reuters has this on the police investigation.

QuoteAsylum seekers were among those involved in the violence on New Year's Eve in Cologne, the German interior ministry said on Friday.

Ministry spokesman Tobias Plate told a news conference that federal police had identified 31 people by name who played a role in the violence, 18 of whom were in the process of seeking asylum in Germany.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-assaults-idUSKBN0UM0U420160108
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Legbiter on January 08, 2016, 07:12:01 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 07, 2016, 12:54:06 PMHey, cuckolding fetish is as healthy expression of one's sexuality as any other.  :P

The kraut kind and sensitive person is not entirely happy though, crossed legs looking into the middle distance, trying to beat back the bad thoughts creeping up on him with happy thoughts about all the praise his progressive social circle will shower him with.  :lmfao:

This interpretation ignores the fact there's lots of space between the woman and the Arab, while the two men's legs and feet are brushed up against each other.
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Legbiter

He looks more a low-testosterone kraut instead of gay IMO.

For a badass, check out this vid of a doorman who witnessed the rape & pillage in Cologne and tried his best to help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9TOdMzOH1U
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Syt

Quote from: Legbiter on January 08, 2016, 07:16:50 AM
Reuters has this on the police investigation.

QuoteAsylum seekers were among those involved in the violence on New Year's Eve in Cologne, the German interior ministry said on Friday.

Ministry spokesman Tobias Plate told a news conference that federal police had identified 31 people by name who played a role in the violence, 18 of whom were in the process of seeking asylum in Germany.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-assaults-idUSKBN0UM0U420160108

Well, if they're found guilty of the crime then they should be sent to jail or deported (not sure what current deportation rules are, but German law generally allows to deport foreigners convicted of crimes).
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Martinus

Quote from: Legbiter on January 08, 2016, 07:36:52 AM
He looks more a low-testosterone kraut instead of gay IMO.

For a badass, check out this vid of a doorman who witnessed the rape & pillage in Cologne and tried his best to help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9TOdMzOH1U

He looks like a typical closet case to me.

Syt

Quote from: Tamas on January 08, 2016, 08:00:23 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12088341/Two-teenage-girls-gang-raped-by-four-Syrian-nationals-in-southern-Germany.html

Horrible, and again - the German criminal system will take care of it. The suspects are Syrians, but have been living in Germany/Switzerland/Netherlands for a long time:

QuoteThe suspects are not asylum-seekers. The 21-year-old man and his brother are long-term German residents, while the two 14-year-olds live in Switzerland and the Netherlands.

Prosecutors say they do not believe the incident is connected to the outbreak of sexual assaults against women in Cologne and other German cities over the New Year.
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Martinus

What penalties are the rapists/attackers in both cases likely to get from the German criminal justice system?

Syt

Depending on case, 2 (or 5 in severe cases) - 15 years.
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Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Syt on January 08, 2016, 08:08:43 AM
Quote from: Tamas on January 08, 2016, 08:00:23 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12088341/Two-teenage-girls-gang-raped-by-four-Syrian-nationals-in-southern-Germany.html

Horrible, and again - the German criminal system will take care of it. The suspects are Syrians, but have been living in Germany/Switzerland/Netherlands for a long time:

QuoteThe suspects are not asylum-seekers. The 21-year-old man and his brother are long-term German residents, while the two 14-year-olds live in Switzerland and the Netherlands.

Prosecutors say they do not believe the incident is connected to the outbreak of sexual assaults against women in Cologne and other German cities over the New Year.

If they are that well integrated that changes everything. :)

Martinus

Quote from: Syt on January 08, 2016, 08:13:44 AM
Depending on case, 2 (or 5 in severe cases) - 15 years.

This is the actual sentence or sentence after taking into account a routine early release for "good behavior"?

Also, I am sorry if this has been already mentioned - how many of the Cologne attackers are already in the police custody?

Syt

It makes sense to mention, IMHO, so that people reading the article don't think they recently arrived with the refugee treks.

Can't say anything about the circumstances of the case, but let's not pretend that rape or sexual crimes are only committed by badly integrated foreigners of (maybe) Muslim persuasion.
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Syt

Quote from: Martinus on January 08, 2016, 08:17:50 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 08, 2016, 08:13:44 AM
Depending on case, 2 (or 5 in severe cases) - 15 years.

This is the actual sentence or sentence after taking into account a routine early release for "good behavior"?

Please ask a German defense lawyer or criminal judge.
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Syt

Quote from: Martinus on January 08, 2016, 08:17:50 AM
Also, I am sorry if this has been already mentioned - how many of the Cologne attackers are already in the police custody?

Currently there are 31 known suspects for the federal police, 18 of which are asylum seekers, though there are no charges of sexual harrassment/rape against the asylum seekers. Among them are 9 Algerians, 5 Moroccans, 5 Iranians, 4 Syrians, 1 Iraqi, 1 American, 2 Germans.

The state police has 19 suspects.

Several suspects were found out by tracking the stolen cell phones.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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Martinus

On an unrelated note - can the church of scientology operate freely in Germany?