Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-26

[Tamas]

Wasn't that long ago we were talking about finding an exit strategy that Putin can swallow. Now we're talking about how much land to give him. [sigh]

And unless the Ukrainians are in a more desperate situation than the public is being let known, it's hard to see why they'd agree to a conditional surrender where the condition granted to them is that their whole country will not be occupied right now, only later when Russia has been given the chance to regroup.

[Legbiter]

Wasn't that long ago we were talking about finding an exit strategy that Putin can swallow. Now we're talking about how much land to give him. [sigh]

Yeah these are the same reheated russian max demands since 2022. The burgers have given the Ukrainians some kind of deadline to accede to Shitkopfs plan but the Europeans are starting to strangle this brainfart and the russians have not actually formally accepted the plan. Just staggering breakdown of state capacity and general incompetence on part of the Americans.