Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

[Iormlund]

We already have a respectable blue water navy. By 2030 we should have ten modern escorts (based on AEGIS) plus 4 AIP subs and an amphibious warfare taskforce.

The biggest problem is we don't have enough money to keep the ships at full strength. We lost our embarked aviation, as we haven't replaced the Harrier with the F-35 yet. And we have a laughably low number of missiles.

[Admiral Yi]

Spain is really far from Russia

Not as far as the US.

[crazy canuck]

Spain is really far from Russia

Not as far as the US.

Actually quite a bit further away than the US.

[Josquius]

As I've said what bothers me about this spending more malarkey is the massive inefficiencies in it.
Sure in total it will add up to the amount needed to fund a very good force indeed but in practice it'll just give two dozen ineffective ones.
I know during the cold war nato had a fair bit of member specialisation. This seems to have dropped out in more recent years?
For the UK for instance... We don't need to be funding the army much at all. We just need a token force. Emphasis should be on the sea and air - which in an age of drones means quite different spending to what we've been doing historically.

Spain is really far from Russia

Not as far as the US.

Actually quite a bit further away than the US.

The US is what, 50 miles from Russia?