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Started by merithyn, December 23, 2013, 10:06:11 AM

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merithyn

Quote from: grumbler on December 23, 2013, 05:54:48 PM
Saluting varies more than you'd think across services.  In the Naval services, one doesn't salute when uncovered (i.e. not wearing uniform headgear) nor when indoors.  I don't know about the other services, but, in the Navy, you salute someone in the same organization as you (or someone you are working with repeatedly in a given day) only the first time you meet them in a given day, or when reporting something to them officially.  A report that is given with a salute becomes an official report.  In the Naval services, only, you can salute left-handed if one cannot use the right hand (that comes from small boat experiences where, if on the right side of the boat in heavy seas, you are hanging on with the right hand). If your right arm is broken, for instance, you salute left-handed.

I know the indoor salute thing applies to Marines, too. Does the left-handed salute?

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A civilian saluting would have been considered gauche.  The civilian equivalent to the salute is to hold one's hand (or hat, if one is wearing one) over the heart.

Thank you. That's what I was asking. I didn't salute him because I could see it being considered... yeah, gauche is the right word for it. Certainly inappropriate.
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Tonitrus

USAF salutes indoors only when officially reporting to the CC, and during award ceremonies (shake, take, salute)...again to the CC.  Never with the left hand.  If your hands are full, a polite verbal greeting. 

Maximus

Saluting with the left hand is gauche.


merithyn

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Alcibiades

Quote from: Berkut on December 23, 2013, 07:48:16 PM
Yeah, gotta agree with grumbler.

Saluting someone in the military as a civilian, unless there is some extenuating circumstances, would be seen as mostly just kind of weird and uncouth. It isn't strictly wrong, just not really appropriate. A salute is a military thing.

If you want to show someone in the military respect, a nice handshake and "thanks for your service" is the way to go, IMO.

Your question makes a lot more sense now Meri  :P


Berkut hit it right on the head here, though.    If you had I wouldn't have really known what to do, especially with so many of the higher rank around.  I don't think I would have saluted you back and that might have been awkward  :P
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Alcibiades

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Berkut

Quote from: Alcibiades on December 24, 2013, 05:08:22 PM
If you had I wouldn't have really known what to do, especially with so many of the higher rank around.

Oh man, suddenly there is a really good reason to do it! Making a brand new second looie feel awkward in front of higher ranking officers? :P

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merithyn

Quote from: Alcibiades on December 24, 2013, 05:08:22 PM
Your question makes a lot more sense now Meri  :P


Berkut hit it right on the head here, though.    If you had I wouldn't have really known what to do, especially with so many of the higher rank around.  I don't think I would have saluted you back and that might have been awkward  :P

Well, there's a reason that I didn't do it. I figured it was most appropriate not to. :P I would have felt silly, and you would have felt awkward. But a hug in that uniform with all those bars/medals/stripes would have been weird, too, so you got an "atta boy" from me, instead.
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Quote from: Monoriu on December 23, 2013, 05:53:33 PM
Does it mean that Siege will have to salute Alci now?

Yes. Also die for him when he does something stupid.
Which he will.



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Alcibiades

Quote from: Siege on January 20, 2014, 03:07:03 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 23, 2013, 05:53:33 PM
Does it mean that Siege will have to salute Alci now?

Yes. Also die for him when he does something stupid.
Which he will.


Except I have more real combat time than you  :console:
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Syt

Quote from: Siege on January 20, 2014, 03:07:03 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 23, 2013, 05:53:33 PM
Does it mean that Siege will have to salute Alci now?

Yes. Also die for him when he does something stupid.
Which he will.

Would it be awkward at a Languish meet? I mean, is it uncomfortable for officers and enlisted to meet in a private capacity and have beers together?

This being the military I'm sure there's some sort of etiquette on this. :P
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Alcibiades

Quote from: Syt on January 20, 2014, 12:30:25 PM
Quote from: Siege on January 20, 2014, 03:07:03 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 23, 2013, 05:53:33 PM
Does it mean that Siege will have to salute Alci now?

Yes. Also die for him when he does something stupid.
Which he will.

Would it be awkward at a Languish meet? I mean, is it uncomfortable for officers and enlisted to meet in a private capacity and have beers together?

This being the military I'm sure there's some sort of etiquette on this. :P


It's not as serious of an issue if they aren't in your chain of command.  But yeah, it's not favorably looked upon.


I can't be seen associating with those people.   :bowler:



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Wait...  What would you know about masculinity, you fucking faggot?  - Overly Autistic Neil


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Siege

Quote from: Alcibiades on January 20, 2014, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: Siege on January 20, 2014, 03:07:03 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 23, 2013, 05:53:33 PM
Does it mean that Siege will have to salute Alci now?

Yes. Also die for him when he does something stupid.
Which he will.


Except I have more real combat time than you  :console:

Sure. If you count your time in deployments using dog years.
Not even then. Don't think so.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"