Elections in Virginia (or how Dems cheat)

[crazy canuck]

Sure. If the Tea Party was the one doing this you would hear the screams.

If the Tea Party was that clever there would be no Tea Party.

[DontSayBanana]

Just out of curiosity, why did you even single out NJ elections?  The only thing controversial on the ballot was the minimum wage question, which passed 61-39.  Also, unfortunately, that shithead Van Drew got re-elected yet again.

[Valmy]

Everything been about big govermetnt since Reagan.

Actually the size of the government declined a bit during the 1990s only to skyrocket again around 2000 sometime.

But the way, it was the Republican Party who fought for the end of slavery. Lincoln was a Republican.

Yeah but back then the Republicans were the crazy left wing radical party and the Democrats were the conservatives.  Of course those terms also meant very different things back then, but the Democrats were primarily about a small federal government and strong state governments.

[Valmy]

Oh God, the tired lines of the current generation been worse than their forebearers?

Garbon your grandparents had opportunities your children could never dream of.

[Admiral Yi]

In your own words. Presumably under Levine's definition you'd lose your job.  The military is an organization that is funded by taxes to protect all Americans. By having a military the government is saying that all Americans have a right to safety and protection.  People who are not paying much in taxes get protected just as much as the people who pay a lot in taxes. They are taxing are some of the people to provide a product to all of the people.  That product is security.

Public goods and transfers are different things Raz.

On a different note, I heard Fat Boy say he wasn't opposed to the minimum wage change per se, he just thought it didn't belong in the state constitution.

[Eddie Teach]

There's a lot of continuity; 19th century Republicans were the party of bankers, nativists, and prohibitionists.

[Valmy]

There's a lot of continuity; 19th century Republicans were the party of bankers, nativists, and prohibitionists.

I think prohibition crossed party lines

[Eddie Teach]

As does support for the War on Drugs. But Republicans are more retarded about it.

[derspiess]

Mark Levin, actually.

Called it!!!

[derspiess]

I think prohibition crossed party lines

Not to mention nativism.

[Razgovory]

In your own words. Presumably under Levine's definition you'd lose your job.  The military is an organization that is funded by taxes to protect all Americans. By having a military the government is saying that all Americans have a right to safety and protection.  People who are not paying much in taxes get protected just as much as the people who pay a lot in taxes. They are taxing are some of the people to provide a product to all of the people.  That product is security.

Public goods and transfers are different things Raz.

On a different note, I heard Fat Boy say he wasn't opposed to the minimum wage change per se, he just thought it didn't belong in the state constitution.

Oh?  How so?

[Valmy]

I think prohibition crossed party lines

Not to mention nativism.

No kidding.  But I think PW was talking specifically about the Republicans absorbing the Know-Nothing party.

[Valmy]

On a different note, I heard Fat Boy say he wasn't opposed to the minimum wage change per se, he just thought it didn't belong in the state constitution.

I think it is actually more properly a state matter.  Wage standards vary a lot from state to state.

But I guess he was specifically talking about it being in the constitution.

[Admiral Yi]

Oh?  How so?

A public good is one that ostensibly benefits the greater public, but cannot be provided by the private market because of the free rider/positive externality problem.  A transfer benefits those who recieve it.

Military defense is a public good.  Food stamps are transfers.

[Razgovory]

Oh?  How so?

A public good is one that ostensibly benefits the greater public, but cannot be provided by the private market because of the free rider/positive externality problem.  A transfer benefits those who recieve it.

Military defense is a public good.  Food stamps are transfers.

You can provide military defense on the private market.