What could possibly replace Darwinian Evolution?

[grumbler]

Next question:  what could possibly replace alchemy?l

[Viking]

actually if Aristotle had know of mutation, inheritance and selection then in addition to the observed similarity of living things, yes, he too would have gotten to evolution. How do I know this? Because that's all that Darwin had.

Didnt Darwin go on some voyage or other on some boat to you know, check things out a bit?

Indeed
Mutation and inheritance were things he observed, selection was an inference he drew to explain observations.

I am actually very surprised that viking of all people is trying to downplay the significance of observation and empirical inquiry and trying to position the natural sciences as a branch of a priori logic.

I'm not downplaying the significance of empiricism. I'm saying that given mutation, inheritance and selection then evolution follows. I'm not proposing an alternative scientific method. I'm saying that given these premises evolution is the logical consequence. Before darwin (even by aristotles contemporaries) evolution was observed. The same applies to inheritance, sons look like their fathers and baby horses grow up to be adult horses. Had aristotle had mutation and selection (selection was darwin's contribution) he too could have deduced evolution. The scientific method works backwards, it observes evolution, proposes explanations, uses those explanations to make predictions and then tests the predictions.

[fhdz]

Next question:  what could possibly replace alchemy?l

Wait, wait, I've got this one...

It was a short-lived movement to try and build on the successes of alchemists turning lead into gold; they instead attempted to turn lead into drinking water. Final score: Science 1, Alchemists 0.

[crazy canuck]

Next question:  what could possibly replace alchemy?l

Wait, wait, I've got this one...

It was a short-lived movement to try and build on the successes of alchemists turning lead into gold; they instead attempted to turn lead into drinking water. Final score: Science 1, Alchemists 0.

Having done his scientific training under Zosimos of Panopolis Grumbler has you at somewhat of a disadvantage.

[lustindarkness]

Next question:  what could possibly replace alchemy?l

It evolved into chemistry and medicine, and based on current medical and pharmacy, they have figured out how to turn sick people to gold.

[fhdz]

Next question:  what could possibly replace alchemy?l

It evolved into chemistry and medicine, and based on current medical and pharmacy, they have figured out how to turn sick people to gold.

Lusti wins.

[Ideologue]

Next question:  what could possibly replace alchemy?l

It evolved into chemistry and medicine, and based on current medical and pharmacy, they have figured out how to turn sick people to gold.

This is rather fucking brilliant.

[Siege]

I don't think we should be so quick to discount the alien experiment origin theory.

This just another version of creationism.

I see nothing wrong with original creationism to required a modern version.

[Siege]

Lustins rules this thread with an iron fist.

[Viking]

Lustins rules this thread with an iron fist.

I thought he ruled this thread with a rapier wit.