What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/30/politics/trump-library-renderings-miami

Trump shares renderings of a towering presidential library

Fuck that, keep your hands off my home metro area! 

[Syt]

Insufficient; there should also be a big gold statue of trump near the airport entrance. Desantis need to upgrade his brown nosing, its not 2025 any more.

[Tamas]

[crazy canuck]

It's important to have a big golden statue for the people to tear down in due course

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Trump's library... is that the one for all the things he didn't read?

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

Trump's library... is that the one for all the things he didn't read?

No, it's also for all the things he didn't write.

[Threviel]

I listened to an interesting pod on geopolitics, a local Swedish one. They more or less argued that the US pivot east, heralded by Obama in 2008, is on-going. It's a natural result of the US hegemony being under threat from China.

As part of that it's not in the US interest that Russia is defeated in Ukraine. Russia is a counter-weight to China, and whilst them winning is not necessarily beneficial, them losing hard is very bad for the US. This is the Obama-Trump-Biden-Trump stance on the war and has been consequent regardless of presidency.

Further the argument was that the internationalist policies (free trade, NATO and so on) of the US since the war (WWII that is) has always been a "the state" going against the inclination of both congress and people. The US population is naturally isolationist and the current trend is just that side of the argument gaining influence.

So, Trump is not the cause of the current US move towards isolationism, he's just the half-wit that happens to sit in the Presidents chair during a time when the process is accelerating. But that process would have happened regardless, we saw it under Obama and Biden also.

All of this is to say that if our politicians would have taken their heads out of their asses in 2008 and back then pivoted to increased European autonomy, like Obama said, we would have been far better positioned right now to handle the current mess. What happens now is the result of systematic natural processes that were able to be seen back in the 90's.

[Jacob]

Trump's library... is that the one for all the things he didn't read?

No, it's also for all the things he didn't write.

I think it's primarily to funnel money into the Trump family's pockets.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Trump's library... is that the one for all the things he didn't read?

No, it's also for all the things he didn't write.

At least it'll contain a lot of hot air so the temperature should be fine

[The Minsky Moment]

Lawyers for Tyler Robinson, the accused killer of Charlie Kirk, filed a motion to adjourn a preliminary hearing.  The filing attracted press attention because the motion disclosed that the initial ATF report didn't match the bullet to Robinson's rifle.  But what I found more interesting was the true basis for the adjournment request.  The case against Robinson is being brought by the State of Utah (Utah County DA's office).  The County DA appears to have complied with its disclosure obligations.  But much of the Robinson investigation was conducted by the Feds and apparently FBI and ATF have failed to provide required timely disclosure.

The fact that the Feds can't get the basics done in even such a high profile and politically significant case, is suggestive of the degree of damage already done by Musk-Vought-Miller plan of destroying federal governance capacity.

[Syt]

Yeah, but isn't that working as designed? Breaking agencies to the point of being unable to handle their tasks?

[Syt]

I mean, even if Trump and his cronies get voted out in 2028 and actually leave the government ... how do you address the damage they did to the ability of the government handling its responsibilities and restore faith with partners abroad and the voting population?

[The Minsky Moment]

I mean, even if Trump and his cronies get voted out in 2028 and actually leave the government ... how do you address the damage they did to the ability of

 . . . the government handling its responsibilities

About 4-5x the time it took to do the damage, 15-20 years.

 

and restore faith with partners abroad

10x or more, 40-50 years

the voting population?

About 10x the attention span of an average voter, 30 seconds.

[Tonitrus]

And probably having to face a reality where one would need to use a lot of methods that Trump himself introduced.  That is, lots of firings of his cronies/sycophants and executive orders (though probably with less pageantry).

Not to mention probably some ugly confrontations with the USSC. 

[Syt]

And probably having to face a reality where one would need to use a lot of methods that Trump himself introduced.  That is, lots of firings of his cronies/sycophants and executive orders (though probably with less pageantry).

Not to mention probably some ugly confrontations with the USSC. 

And some angry voters with guns. 30% or whatever the poll suggested who said that Trump was free from corruption?