Iran War

[HVC]

A tradeoff implies an understanding of what's being traded. I don't think the half of Americans suckling at the teat of fox and by extension trump knows what's going on.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

A tradeoff implies an understanding of what's being traded. I don't think the half of Americans suckling at the teat of fox and by extension trump knows what's going on.

indeed. Trading away what was probably the most beneficial and effective empire in history for... nothing.
Unless you're an oligarch of course.
But I guess nothing lasts forever

[HVC]

A tradeoff implies an understanding of what's being traded. I don't think the half of Americans suckling at the teat of fox and by extension trump knows what's going on.

indeed. Trading away what was probably the most beneficial and effective empire in history for... nothing.
Unless you're an oligarch of course.
But I guess nothing lasts forever

Perfect understanding isn't even required, and often isn't possible, but the basic lack of understanding is sad. It's been what, a year, and people still don't understand how tariffs work for example.

That's not to say the lefts voters are perfect, far from it. I've gone on the record with my feelings about the general voting public, but one party is trying to tear the world down and that's what should be the focus.

[Valmy]

One obvious explanation is that it represents the tradeoff between rights and risks that the US population on the whole is willing to tolerate.  It may be one you personally don't agree with, but that's hardly a mental illness of the political entity.

I am very cynical about it since it seems like it is driven because an industry benefits from this right. I don't see the US population fighting hard for the OTHER amendments. Without a powerful industry to benefit, they just don't get mobilized.

It seems weird to me that the US population really just organically believes that only this one amendment matters and all the others can be compromised into meaninglessness. I don't really think they believe that the Fourth Amendment doesn't matter because you can just gun down cops if they abuse it, so therefore only the second amendment matters. But you would be forgiven for thinking so considering how this one amendment seems to be held up as the only right worth having.

[HVC]

I know its cliche to bring it up, but I'll do it anyway, but people always forget the well regulated militia part of the amendment. Its almost like the defense of the amendemnt is more because they like their shiny bang bang stick more so then for the love of the constitution. Which is a piece of paper that can be wrong anyway, hence the amendments

[Zanza]

If there is a ground invasion of Iran, the well-regulated militia might be needed soon.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Trump consulted the oracle at Delphi and was told that if he attacked Iran there would be regime change in a great empire.

[Syt]

Actually, the oracle told him that it would be bad for his reign, but he called it fake news, crossed out "your presidency" with sharpie and wrote "Iran's government" over it, claiming that this was what the Oracle had actually said while Larry Ellison smiles in the background.

[grumbler]

I know its cliche to bring it up, but I'll do it anyway, but people always forget the well regulated militia part of the amendment. Its almost like the defense of the amendemnt is more because they like their shiny bang bang stick more so then for the love of the constitution. Which is a piece of paper that can be wrong anyway, hence the amendments

Unfortunately, until the US re-establishes a Supreme Court (if it ever does) the current misinterpretation of the second amendment has to be treated as law.

[crazy canuck]

One of the many liberal Democratic institutions that would need to be reinstated in the United States.

[Darth Wagtaros]

I know its cliche to bring it up, but I'll do it anyway, but people always forget the well regulated militia part of the amendment. Its almost like the defense of the amendemnt is more because they like their shiny bang bang stick more so then for the love of the constitution. Which is a piece of paper that can be wrong anyway, hence the amendments

The well regulated part is by the people of the people for the people.  

[OttoVonBismarck]

Looks like Trump has drifted back into threatening to blow up all of Iran's infrastructure intermixed with boasts about how he is going to take Iran's oil.