ICE misconduct megathread (Immigration "enforcement" in the US)

[HVC]

I look forward to a civil lawsuit that will take that million away.

What are the chances he doesn't get qualified immunity?

[crazy canuck]

I look forward to a civil lawsuit that will take that million away.

And then some

[grumbler]

I look forward to a civil lawsuit that will take that million away.

What are the chances he doesn't get qualified immunity?

Qualified immunity doesn't protect federal officers if they committed crimes.  Good was killed by the third, clearly criminal, shot.

[Tonitrus]

And QI is one of those questionable precedents that should keep being tested in court at every opportunity.

 

[celedhring]

Seems to me like two sides talking past each other.

The fact that camera phones are ubiquitous and the internet facilitates near instantaneous sharing of information is clearly a good thing, exposing the absurdity of the lies being pushed by officials in real time.

The fact social media is dominated by a small number of corporatized platforms motivated to privilege the spread of disinformation and slop is a bad thing.

Both things can be and are true at the same time.

Picking up on this, I fear we're just in a short window until AI video doctoring becomes good enough that it manages to completely muddle the picture (thanks also to social media) even when there's footage available of a controversial incident. Or even if there isn't.

One of the positives that came out of the death of poor Mr. Pretti is the fact that we're still capable of creating some sense of consensus around factual truth when it stares you in the face - even this morally bankrupt administration had to eventually walk back their lies - but how long will that last?

[Tamas]

Yeah, AI is a worry (in Hungary, Fidesz is making heavy use of it already, although only in mocking videos I don't think they expect even their followers to truly believe authentic), but hopefully it will ultimately swing the pendulum back in the sense that it will make people seek out trustworthy, larger organisations (newspapers and such) as sources of news rather than relying on ChadAlpha69 on Twitter for their news updates.