ICE misconduct megathread (Immigration "enforcement" in the US)

[Tamas]

Yeah we had no overwhelming propaganda through the media before social media, what the hell are you guys smoking. Fox News and that's not even a state one.

With social media people can connect and organise.

If that was so inconsequential like you claim, autocracies wouldn't be limiting access to it.

If you don't see the difference, I'm not sure I can explain it to you

I now know how old you are, you post like you are a lot younger because you seem to not know the world before the Internet.

This was really condescending. I started typing a reply out but if you think somebody who grew up in a fucking village that was until his early teens behind the fucking Iron Curtain can't remember what life was without the Internet, then that prices your opinion in, not mine.

Plus, you are not just arguing with me but with the rules of Russia, China, Iran and other similar places which curtail social media and Internet access to control dissent.

Take this latest murder. How would YOU (or as a matter of fact, state authorities) would have seen evidence of what actually happened if it wasn't for the extremely easy access mobile technology and Internet (social media) offers individuals to record and share that evidence? Maybe if somebody had a camera ICE couldn't confiscate, it might had found itself to some TV station that wasn't too afraid of legal troubles for showing the footage. Or it would had eventually made it's way to you via some Internet bulletin boards or forums if you want to focus on social media as this non-utility.

And eye witness accounts of course. We would have read the government's version and the witnesses taking to the press, and then we would have the speculation, probably with Zoupa in full anti-establishment zeal arguing with "impartial logical mode" Yi on the other side, with the rest of us chipping in.