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Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

Started by Syt, December 17, 2025, 12:23:32 AM

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Darth Wagtaros

Trump's supporters are all over the place.  On one hand Maruro was a drug kingpin and we needed to get rid of him over that. On the other, the oil is the important part because oil.  Their approval comes down to: Trump said its good.  

So, US oil companies are going to be heavily involved? How?  PMCs going to be controlling the territory?  
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Syt

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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 04, 2026, 06:52:18 AMTrump's supporters are all over the place.  On one hand Maruro was a drug kingpin and we needed to get rid of him over that. On the other, the oil is the important part because oil.  Their approval comes down to: Trump said its good. 

So, US oil companies are going to be heavily involved? How?  PMCs going to be controlling the territory? 

Dronewarfare might make that difficult

crazy canuck

Much like Iraq war II - now what?

I assume there are many in the American institutions responsible for military strategic thinking who learned that lesson, but I doubt very much any of them are informing the decision makers in the current administration.
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Legbiter

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on January 04, 2026, 01:34:38 AMIndeed, "Mission Accomplished" as they say.

This would just be another Monroe Doctrine episode for me much like Panama and Noriega was, that is an understandable bit of gunboat diplomacy, kick out Chinese and Russian influence, based as the kids say in the way in how it was effortlessly carried out, really. Except Trump has stated territorial ambitions on Greenland. This is such a prime example of shitting on an ally that has fought and bled with the US that it concentrates the mind.  :hmm: 

The old regime in Venezuela is finished because nobody (except the Cuban bodyguard around Maduro) lifted a finger to save it and it's not going to host any Chinese weapons systems anytime soon. It will consume all available bandwith the US has wrt to foreign policy so at least the demands on Ukraine to surrender should evaporate. 



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Razgovory

Quote from: PJL on January 04, 2026, 06:05:01 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 04, 2026, 05:47:53 AMInterim-President of Venezuela is blaming "Zionists" for the attack.

I think she has a point, if it is viewed as another variant of the military-industrial complex, corporatist government, tech bros terms banded about for this sort of thing.

It still surprises me that people try to rationalize this sort of rhetoric.
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Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on January 04, 2026, 05:47:53 AMInterim-President of Venezuela is blaming "Zionists" for the attack.

Guess we need to do more regime change.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Tamas

Quote from: Razgovory on January 05, 2026, 07:47:54 AM
Quote from: PJL on January 04, 2026, 06:05:01 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 04, 2026, 05:47:53 AMInterim-President of Venezuela is blaming "Zionists" for the attack.

I think she has a point, if it is viewed as another variant of the military-industrial complex, corporatist government, tech bros terms banded about for this sort of thing.

It still surprises me that people try to rationalize this sort of rhetoric.

Around a millenia of the Jews being the root of all problems is a deep tradition that won't be easy to get rid of, especially since it's even more prevalent in Muslim cultures.

Maladict

Trump notified the oil companies of the plans before the attack, and Congress afterward. Says it all, really.

Zanza

They gave him money for his re-election, he gave them privileged information for insider trading. Probably a fair quid pro quo in the Trumpian swamp.

Valmy

Quote from: Maladict on January 05, 2026, 09:50:38 AMTrump notified the oil companies of the plans before the attack, and Congress afterward. Says it all, really.

Congress is irrelevant and powerless, unlike the oil companies.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

Quote from: Tamas on January 05, 2026, 09:46:42 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 05, 2026, 07:47:54 AM
Quote from: PJL on January 04, 2026, 06:05:01 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 04, 2026, 05:47:53 AMInterim-President of Venezuela is blaming "Zionists" for the attack.

I think she has a point, if it is viewed as another variant of the military-industrial complex, corporatist government, tech bros terms banded about for this sort of thing.

It still surprises me that people try to rationalize this sort of rhetoric.

Around a millenia of the Jews being the root of all problems is a deep tradition that won't be easy to get rid of, especially since it's even more prevalent in Muslim cultures.
I really thought we were past that.  The world just gets worse and worse it seems.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

celedhring

So, I saw that the judge on the Maduro case is 92 years old.

Is it forbidden in the US to retire if you hold an office?

Zanza

Half of the US Senate is above retirement age. It's a gerontocracy.

Tamas

Quote from: celedhring on Today at 05:17:32 AMSo, I saw that the judge on the Maduro case is 92 years old.

Is it forbidden in the US to retire if you hold an office?

WTF  :lol: