Europa Universalis V confirmed

[Solmyr]

One problem is that if you have low control, you get no taxes but also your estates' money evaporates into thin air. This should not be the case - your estates should be able to enjoy their income in areas of low crown control. That way a decentralized state would have estates building things and making money available for loans.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Yes, I can see a decentralised state getting prosperous as a weak crown is unable to sieze much in the way of tax money and waste it on wars. IIRC Castile was very heavily taxed which is a factor in its precipitous decline in the 17th century.

[Tamas]

But also, as I understand the game doesn't simulate ALL money/wealth in circulation like Vic3 does. Not sure just giving lost tax money to estates would work.

[The Minsky Moment]

Burghers can build roads if the right privileges are selected.  Some of the other estates can build special buildings although sometimes they aren't good. 

The estates do use income to buy good output and drive up demand IIRC so that's useful.

Otherwise, I think the default assumption is that nobles with extra income will just fritter it away on banqueting and pointy shoes.

[Sheilbh]

And toll castles. The rentier bastards

[Valmy]

And toll castles. The rentier bastards

Yeah I take it this is one of those things we have to be constantly trying to destroy? 

[Syt]

Regarding control - this guy stacked all his Muscovy modifiers for great effect by end of 15th century.

[Syt]

Going through the 1.08 beta patch notes and saw this:

Exiting using Alt+F4 in Ironman will now save the game.

[Tamas]

Like, IDK if the changes re. Centralisation negatively impacting vassal loyalty are good or not. But I can sympathise with Johan and co. People are up in arms because a beta patch have made their pre-beta patch meta-optimised empires worse in keeping subjects loyal. Like one guy is spamming because his one vassal now only has 39% loyalty, a value, I might add, I had ZERO problem living with when I had my Hungary vassal swarm. It's not like it matters.

[Valmy]

It mainly matters if you plan on annexing them.

[DGuller]

Going through the 1.08 beta patch notes and saw this:

Exiting using Alt+F4 in Ironman will now save the game.

I accidentally discovered a much more convenient way to cheese the Ironman:  by default your saves get saved to a OneDrive-linked folder, which versions the save file automatically.  If there is no syncing to the cloud, you can just roll back your save to one of quite a few prior versions and overwrite the current save.  I only did it once when I was trying to roll back the save for a HOI4 game far back enough to escape out of CtD loop.

[Valmy]

Ironman modes in games with popups drives me nuts. So easy to accidentally click something disastrous 

[crazy canuck]

Ironman modes in games with popups drives me nuts. So easy to accidentally click something disastrous 

Yeah, I can live without getting "achievements".

[Josephus]

So in my first game, Kingdom of Naples (Now Two Sicilies), I've reached 1640 and the Age of Absolutism, and, well, things are not going well. A series of bad shit, has led to rebellions, low stability and ongoing debt. No end in sight. Maybe if I complain to Johan, he'll make my game better in the next patch? 

But I guess my first run is over, and I'll wait for the new patch to start a new game.

My main takeaway after 3 weeks is it is fun. I've always liked the EU series, even if I won't ever really learn to play it well.

And a later start date would be so nice.

As an aside, I don't think Spain (really Castille and Aragon) have colonized anything. England is setting up its
colonies, but the rest seem to be a hodgepodge of European colonizers including Milan and...Bohemia.
And, oh yeah, no Spain, no Russia,  no Great Britain; and Tunis seems to be the bad boy of the Med.

[crazy canuck]

Maybe if I complain to Johan, he'll make my game better in the next patch?