What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[HVC]

Camilla is in bright blue.

Melania is always in mourning. She was only ever happy when Trudeau was around 

[Valmy]

Recall that this was the price Starmer had to pay to get his deal done with Trump.

And the UK will get jack shit from it. Trump will rip it up the second he doesn't like it.

The UK are such a bunch of pathetic bitches.

But at least they're not slaves to Europe anymore  

Oh they are still. Just now they have no say in the matter. Brexit was such an act of delusional hubris by a bunch of pathetic losers.

Not that the United States is any less delusional, but at least we have some clout to back it up. Clout we are quickly extinguishing.

[Josquius]

It is why I don't snipe at the royals. Apart from Andrew of course. What a terrible job they have at times 

It is quite fun to imagine Charles talking about his organic garden to Trump....

[HVC]

Recall that this was the price Starmer had to pay to get his deal done with Trump.

And the UK will get jack shit from it. Trump will rip it up the second he doesn't like it.

The UK are such a bunch of pathetic bitches.

But at least they're not slaves to Europe anymore  

Oh they are still. Just now they have no say in the matter. Brexit was such an act of delusional hubris by a bunch of pathetic losers.

Not that the United States is any less delusional, but at least we have some clout to back it up. Clout we are quickly extinguishing.

You'll always have the clout, you're to big, rich, and well armed not to. It's the trust you've lost. It'll take a long time to get that back.

[Valmy]

You'll always have the clout, you're to big, rich, and well armed not to. It's the trust you've lost. It'll take a long time to get that back.

Well a big part of our clout was the trust in us. Our currency in particular.

But yes we can afford to be idiots. The UK cannot, but they sure like to pretend they are the United States.

[crazy canuck]

Recall that this was the price Starmer had to pay to get his deal done with Trump.

And the UK will get jack shit from it. Trump will rip it up the second he doesn't like it.

The UK are such a bunch of pathetic bitches.

Agreed.

[Sheilbh]

It is why I don't snipe at the royals. Apart from Andrew of course. What a terrible job they have at times 

It's their job. I mean the Queen did a state visit for Ceasescu - which I think is still seen as a bit of a nadir.

FWIW I think Starmer's been excellent on foreign policy. I think he's handled Trump very well to get the best for the UK and also to advance (in coordination with European leaders) our interests in a very tempestuous time, particularly over Ukraine where I think he's been very impressive. I think he's a disaster generally but very good on foreign policy (perhaps too good as I think Number 10 are leaning on that which doesn't help domestically).

It is not emotionally satisfying or whatever. We are practically just a satrapy (and have been for several decades) but we need to be less emotionally invested in what's going on in American politics. The job of a British PM is not to deliver the Love Actually speech, or get the Guardian excited - it's to work with whoever's in charge of other global powers to advance Britain's interests and I think Starmer's done very well on that. That goes for Trump, it goes for Xi and it may well in the near future go for a RN President in France.

Well a big part of our clout was the trust in us. Our currency in particular.

I have to be honest - I don't think it was. I think it was economic, industrial and military might and the "trust" and "values" were just the flowers decorating the chains.

Although where I think there is more "soft power" clout which the Trump administration is blowing up is academia and research universities.

Europe has values and trust in abundance. It's exposed to Russia, China and the US because it doesn't have the raw materials, doesn't have the military might and, increasingly, is allowing its industrial power to move to China. 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Europe has values and trust in abundance. It's exposed to Russia, China and the US because it doesn't have the raw materials, doesn't have the military might and, increasingly, is allowing its industrial power to move to China. 

that's what we get for not putting our 3rd rate politicians out to pasture but putting them in charge of the EU and its 'parliament'. But change (wether good or bad) is coming, sadly enough not in the quality of the politicians 

[Admiral Yi]

Europe has values and trust in abundance.

Bosniaks of a certain age might not agree.

[Syt]

[HVC]

Guess musks donations helped him out after all

[Valmy]

Yeah. Twitter was never used by political radicals.

[The Minsky Moment]

Steam is a service, not a company. It doesn't have a CEO.  I suppose I shouldn't expect much business savvy from the c. 2025 GOP.  Sad.

I haven't seen the complete Discord records for Robinson's group, but based on what I have seen and what I've seen universally reported by those who have seen them, there is really nothing of great concern on there.  Whatever led Robinson to commit murder, it wasn't his Discord group.

I do think social media can be toxic, and for young people especially, and I do think tougher regulation is needed.  But if there is evidence that Robinson was "radicalized" online, and in particular from those specific four services, then I haven't seen hide or hair of it yet.

I also find it ironic that that GOP Oversight announces its proposed crack down on "online platforms" through one of the worst and most toxic of those platforms, one that is notorious for garbage content, foreign AI bots, political extremism, and glorification of violence.

[Tonitrus]

Steam is a service, not a company. It doesn't have a CEO.

Sure, it's lazy...but not horrifyingly so.  Especially as most people (outside gamers) probably barely realize that Valve exists.

And understandable...from my experience recently in watching oversight committees, it is often experts  or clowns being poorly questioned by grandstanding human fossils...and clowns.

[The Minsky Moment]

Back in the real world, Jay Powell's Fed cut rates, as Trump is reported asking whether he can appoint himself Chairman of the Federal Reserve.

Fun times.