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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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Sophie Scholl

I'm pretty excited for the new Superman movie. It seems like the perfect time for it to be released. Also, I'm beyond thrilled that the Snyder era of Superman is over. I loathed the sepia tone, morally grey, conflicted hero Superman he had. Superman is hope and we really need hope right now.  :cry:
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

Josquius

Reviews seem poor alas.
Though a light and fluffy approach is very much what Superman needed rather than the Snyder angst.
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Sophie Scholl

I've only seen good reviews. Huh.
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

HVC

Quote from: Sophie Scholl on July 11, 2025, 10:00:12 AMI've only seen good reviews. Huh.

Critics either love it or hate it. Doesn't seem to be much of a middle ground of "meh" reviews.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

mongers

'Down-sizing' - entertaining Matt Damon modern fairy/allegorical tale comedy.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Habbaku

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 09, 2025, 09:19:06 PMI rewatched The Usual Suspects and my verdict remains the same.  It's a troll.

What do you mean?
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Darth Wagtaros

He is saying that it 'insists upon itself.'
PDH!

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Habbaku on July 11, 2025, 01:25:41 PMWhat do you mean?

I mean the movie invites us to engage with the plot, get invested in the characters, try to figure out the whodunit, and then at the reveals that everything we've been watching is a lie.

grumbler

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 11, 2025, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 11, 2025, 01:25:41 PMWhat do you mean?

I mean the movie invites us to engage with the plot, get invested in the characters, try to figure out the whodunit, and then at the reveals that everything we've been watching is a lie.

A well-done troll can be very entertaining, as this movie shows. Newhart is another example of an excellent troll.
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Bayraktar!

viper37

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

HVC

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Quote from: Sophie Scholl on July 11, 2025, 09:52:22 AMI'm pretty excited for the new Superman movie. It seems like the perfect time for it to be released. Also, I'm beyond thrilled that the Snyder era of Superman is over. I loathed the sepia tone, morally grey, conflicted hero Superman he had. Superman is hope and we really need hope right now.  :cry:


So I ended up watching it. It's not bad, but not great. The actress playing Lois was really good, and it was nice to see Darwin get a second chance at being a super hero after his short shrift as an xmen. Sara sampaio was also surprisingly good and annoying, but in a good way. Not sold on the new superman. Good as Kent, but doesn't have the gravitas as the man of steal. Mainly I think that's gunns fault. This movie overcorrected on the dark DC problem. Gunn's humour seems out of place for a superman movie. It's more eye rolling than chuckle worthy for me. It kind of ruined the flow and enjoyment for me, and I usually like his oddly placed humour. Might work better on the new green lantern project (don't know if he's directly involved) and more in Nathan Fillion's wheelhouse. Basically better than the latest batch of MCU movies that DC is desperately trying to compete against, but probably a decade too late.








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Gunn likes to torture animals it seems. Also, the parody of netanyahu and the thinly veiled Israel conflict allegory was kind of a miss for me too.




Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

celedhring

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Is the plot of Usual Suspects a 100% lie? I mean, the attack on the boat does happen. I always thought the broad framework of what Verbal tells Kujan is true - how Soze (himself) played Keaton and the others to do his bidding - he just obscures the names/details to Kujan so he can't track him down later.

Also let's not forget the Hungarian survivor in the middle of the movie forces him to acknowledge the whole thing was about Soze.


Admiral Yi

Quote from: celedhring on July 12, 2025, 03:05:35 AMIs the plot of Usual Suspects a 100% lie? I mean, the attack on the boat does happen. I always thought the broad framework of what Verbal tells Kujan is true - how Soze (himself) played Keaton and the others to do his bidding - he just obscures the names/details to Kujan so he can't track him down later.

The reason you think that is the flashbacks he's narrating.  Because the director confirms it with optics.  But we know from the start Postlewaite would not introduce himself as Kobayashi because Soze had not seen that coffee cup yet.  If that scene is a lie every scene *could* be a lie. 

celedhring

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 12, 2025, 03:09:56 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 12, 2025, 03:05:35 AMIs the plot of Usual Suspects a 100% lie? I mean, the attack on the boat does happen. I always thought the broad framework of what Verbal tells Kujan is true - how Soze (himself) played Keaton and the others to do his bidding - he just obscures the names/details to Kujan so he can't track him down later.

The reason you think that is the flashbacks he's narrating.  Because the director confirms it with optics.  But we know from the start Postlewaite would not introduce himself as Kobayashi because Soze had not seen that coffee cup yet.  If that scene is a lie every scene *could* be a lie. 

I think that's a plot hole more than anything else - but the flashbacks can still lie regardless.

But I think there's enough outside stuff that confirms the broad strokes of Kint's story - we know Keaton is real and was on the boat and faced Soze in it (the opening scene is not connected to Kint's narrative), we know a Hungarian survivor identifies him as Soze, etc... Kint gives fake names, locations, etc... (we know Kobayashi is a real person, just not by that name) but the broad strokes of the narrative - him as Keyser Soze tricked a bunch of hitmen into assaulting a boat to protect his identity - is true. 


Admiral Yi

Quote from: celedhring on July 12, 2025, 03:18:03 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 12, 2025, 03:09:56 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 12, 2025, 03:05:35 AMIs the plot of Usual Suspects a 100% lie? I mean, the attack on the boat does happen. I always thought the broad framework of what Verbal tells Kujan is true - how Soze (himself) played Keaton and the others to do his bidding - he just obscures the names/details to Kujan so he can't track him down later.

The reason you think that is the flashbacks he's narrating.  Because the director confirms it with optics.  But we know from the start Postlewaite would not introduce himself as Kobayashi because Soze had not seen that coffee cup yet.  If that scene is a lie every scene *could* be a lie. 

I think that's a plot hole more than anything else - but the flashbacks can still lie regardless.

But I think there's enough outside stuff that confirms the broad strokes of Kint's story - we know Keaton is real and was on the boat and faced Soze in it (the opening scene is not connected to Kint's narrative), we know a Hungarian survivor identifies him as Soze, etc... Kint gives fake names, locations, etc... (we know Kobayashi is a real person, just not by that name) but the broad strokes of the narrative - him as Keyser Soze tricked a bunch of hitmen into assaulting a boat to protect his identity - is true. 

We don't know Keaton was on the boat.  We have 22 unidentifiable burned bodies and Kint's testimony.

We have a lineup, 22 dead bodies, and whatever Kint says.