Europa Universalis V confirmed

[The Minsky Moment]

People are hyping how complex and ambitious EU5 is, but the game contains many basic errors. For example, the map does not properly represent the extent and influence of Balkan Nationality X - it severely overcounts the presence of Balkan Nationalities Y & Z in insignificant Balkan provinces A, B, and C , not taking into account clear evidence from modern author of Balkan Nationality X demonstrating conclusively that the majority population of these areas was Balkan Nationality X ever since the 14th century mythic migration story of Balkan Nationality X with no supporting evidence .  Shockingly, the game contains no mention of the great folk hero obscure bandit and horse thief of Balkan Nationality X who so famously defeated the Turks at the Battle of Place No One Has Heard Of. The production and technology system also fails to take proper account of the well-known cultural influence of  Balkan Nationality X, who during this period introduced the rest of Europe to key cultural and scientific developments because of their leading position in metallurgy, optics, medicine, chemistry, philology, astronomy, speculative philosophy, military science, theology, sporting prowess, and astonishing physical attractiveness, and their early pioneering experiments in steam power, mechanical computing and space flight.

Because of these slights to the honor of Balkan Nationality X and the resulting gross historical inaccuracies I will be giving a one-star steam review to EU5.  Unless the Chinese troll farms beat me to it.

[crazy canuck]

 

[Josephus]

Seems like they've taken aspects from CK3, VIC3 and HOI4 and merged them into a new EU.

Like those 3 games, I ll probably buy them on Day 1 and then realize I don't have the time or patience to learn how to play these games

We shall see

[Syt]

A feature seems to be that you can automate aspects of running the country. Might ease learning a bit?

My initial impression is that the zoomed out map and the UI at this stage look quite bland.

I wonder how far along in development they are. I mean, Laith's video is him playing thw game.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Minsky is on a roll this week   

[Caliga]

Given how different it is from EUIV, it'll be buggy as hell upon release and I won't even consider touching it for 6 months or so.

[Josephus]

Given how different it is from EUIV, it'll be buggy as hell upon release and I won't even consider touching it for 6 months or so.

Possibly. While the mechanics may be new to EU, a lot of them have been experimented with and improved upon in Paradox's other games. I do expect some glitches, but they haven't promised a timeline yet, and they have been working on it for a while. I really think Johan wants to get this one right.

[Syt]

They certainly seem to take a kitchen sink approach with this a one. Laith said in his video that the game seems more geared towards simulation and less painting the map, though he has concerns about balance and whether all the systems will tie into each other meaningfully. He also commented that the game start seems slow. And he thinks that the game starts close to the Black Death to "teach" players that setbacks in the game are fine and you can recover from them (i.e., losing a war or having all your peasants drafted dying in battle doesn't mean having to start over).

[The Minsky Moment]

Minsky is on a roll this week   

I just asked an AI to create a one paragraph summary of the entire Paradox board for the last 25 years and that's what I got back.

[crazy canuck]

Given how different it is from EUIV, it'll be buggy as hell upon release and I won't even consider touching it for 6 months or so.

Maybe, but for some reason I enjoy EU games on release.

[Valmy]

Minsky is on a roll this week   

I remember back in the ancient times when we had "Post of the Month", Minsky would win just about every time.

[Norgy]

I watched some dude, Ludi et Historia, on YouTube play Byzantium, and it seems that this game already has a lot of flavour pre-release.

The sheer level of detail, from just having a peasant levy to professional soldiers, building roads to increase centralisation, it all makes me drool.

Getting it on day one, and no doubt.

And, of course, Minsky is right. One should never challenge the narrative of say, Albania, it being the culturally dominant power on the Balkans, nor should one ever say the Serbs lost at Kosovo Polje.

It also seems as a sign of our time that you can play as banking nations.

[Josquius]

They certainly seem to take a kitchen sink approach with this a one. Laith said in his video that the game seems more geared towards simulation and less painting the map, though he has concerns about balance and whether all the systems will tie into each other meaningfully. He also commented that the game start seems slow. And he thinks that the game starts close to the Black Death to "teach" players that setbacks in the game are fine and you can recover from them (i.e., losing a war or having all your peasants drafted dying in battle doesn't mean having to start over).

Sounds promising. Must say though I've never encountered a game which truly succeeds in making losing fun.

[crazy canuck]

Minsky is on a roll this week   

I remember back in the ancient times when we had "Post of the Month", Minsky would win just about every time.

Its why we stopped doing it.  The winner was already known.

[Valmy]

I enjoyed losing in CK2, which was good because I almost always eventually did. At least if I started at the early starting dates.