The DEI thread

[Admiral Yi]

You sure that was me? I don't recall making any such accusations.

Pretty sure.

[Jacob]

Pretty sure.

I'm surprised, because "bombarding" is not what I associate with your posting style at all. If I was in a position to change something in your posting style to suit my preferences, bombarding wouldn't even be on the list for consideration.

In any case, I am happy to retract any accusations of bombarding.

[Admiral Yi]

Groovy

[Valmy]

It makes Valmy uncomfortable too.

I was just explaining why it is controversial.

[Sheilbh]

On the tech world and douches - I see the anti-ageing guy is out there doing heresy now

[Valmy]

On the tech world and douches - I see the anti-ageing guy is out there doing heresy now

That dude is so creepy.

[Zoupa]

It is controversial because it gets brought up every damn time anybody ever achieves something or we trying to help people who are black in this country.

I think the very first ever black head coach in a major American sports league was Bill Russell in 1966 with the Celtics. It might have only been the first black head coach in the NBA, but I think that is right. Anyway, in the very first press conference for the very first black head coach ever the questions come in if he only got this job because he was black and if he could be fair to the white players and not be racist. I mean black men had been head coaches for exactly zero seconds and already Bill Russell was not qualified for this job, he clearly only got it because he was black. And oh wow could this black guy not be racist to the poor white players?

And this has pretty much been constant until today. Every time a black person gets a job, what do the racists say? He clearly only got the job because he was black, anti-white bigotry! Everytime we try to do anything to try to make hiring and the workplace fair, like with DEI initiatives, oh well that is just anti-white racism and bigotry. I guess the assumption is that if the workplace was actually fair every hire would be white because we are just better than them I guess.

So when the same tired call of "racism against white people" gets brought up over and over and over and over again for decades and decades and decades to cover up racism against black people, it makes it controversial. It poisons the well.

Have you not noticed this? This has been going on my entire life.

That is not to say that there is not racism against white people and there are people who suffer shit because they are white. But I think it is pretty clear why the concept of racism against white people is controversial, it is because of this long use of it by racists to try to oppress black people. And I am sure it goes way back beyond 1966, that was just an incident that immediately sprung to mind.

Watch it. Your post just caused 5 white people to vote republican forever. That's not how you win elections!!!!!!

[grumbler]

It makes Valmy uncomfortable too.

I was just explaining why it is controversial.

Your explanation clearly made Yi uncomfortable.  Try to do better.

 

[Razgovory]

There is a line of thought that non-white people simply can't be racist.

[Valmy]

There is a line of thought that non-white people simply can't be racist.

Well that's a stupid line of thought. Hell look at Kanye West.

[HVC]

There is a line of thought that non-white people simply can't be racist.

Well that's a stupid line of thought. Hell look at Kanye West.

Yeah but he's racist against other minorities so it's an edge case.

[Josquius]

Caught the fascist/Musk fan club victor in Lincolnshires mayoral election on tv yesterday making some of these points. It was quite painful both in itself and because you just know a large number of idiots will be nodding along.
"I'm against DEI. It's divisive. Why I'm neurodivergant myself. I'm a meritocrat and believe in the best people getting the job"
The reporter tried to point out that's the point of EDI but she just went on like a broken record.
This is what's so painful about Musk and his acolytes. The sheer confidence with which they hold their idiotic takes and the amount of projection the engage in.

[Valmy]

That is why he put only his friends and relatives on the Tesla board. They just happened to be the most qualified people to oversee this valuable company.

[Admiral Yi]

The reporter tried to point out that's the point of EDI but she just went on like a broken record.

I thought the point of DEI was to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion.

[Josquius]

The reporter tried to point out that's the point of EDI but she just went on like a broken record.

I thought the point of DEI was to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion.

To ensure a meritocracy.