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Elon Musk: Always A Douche

Started by garbon, July 15, 2018, 07:01:42 PM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Sheilbh on March 20, 2025, 03:35:21 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 20, 2025, 01:12:55 PMComments:

The FT is cautious so buried the lead in the passive voice.  They don't have proof that Tesla misclassified Opex as Capex.  But if you follow the Holmesian method of eliminating all other possibilities, it does seem like a plausible explanation.
Cautious and very carefully legalled.

But I'd just note that the FT's coverage on Wirecard also started on Alphaville raising questions about some dubious accounting figures.

In that case after years of reporting there was a scandal and a collapse and criminal investigations. But the initial response by authorities in Germany involved opening criminal proceedings against the FT over their reporting (among other steps). I think a cautious step by step approach closely involving the lawyers in the newsroom is right given that experience and the rumours I've heard on the grapevine that basically every paper in London is already being sued for one form of libel or another by Musk and/or Trump.

If they had proof there was wrongdoing they would've said so.

Has already explained, what the article is indicating is that there are some things that look odd in the financial statements.  But they also point out that they have potentially innocent explanations. The most that can be said, and not just for legal reasons, is that these are things that a prudent investor might want to look at more closely.


Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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Tamas

#5177
Musk has found a way to improve his finances: he is going to be briefed by the Pentagon on warplans against China.

Maybe some of you US citizens should ask for the same, might get lucky.

dist

The US of A are quickly becoming the United States of X

Syt

Quote from: Tamas on March 21, 2025, 08:33:48 AMMusk has found a way to improve his finances: he is going to be briefed by the Pentagon on warplans against China.

Maybe some of you US citizens should ask for the same, might get lucky.

Yeah, posted it in the Trump thread.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Tamas on March 21, 2025, 08:33:48 AMMusk has found a way to improve his finances: he is going to be briefed by the Pentagon on warplans against China.

Maybe some of you US citizens should ask for the same, might get lucky.
I've banged on about this - I don't really think Russia matters with Musk. But I think he has massive conflicts of interest/dependencies on China and Saudi.

I'd that Musk's response has been to say it's a lie and he doesn't/won't get this brief - and to threaten/launch a leak inquiry in the Pentagon (they always end so well). Feels to me like you can do one of those...
Let's bomb Russia!

Syt



https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-supreme-court-musk-trump-b9be6119d500bdacc9c6341be013cd62

QuoteMusk group offers $100 to Wisconsin voters ahead of pivotal state Supreme Court election

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A group funded by billionaire Elon Musk is offering Wisconsin voters $100 to sign a petition in opposition to "activist judges," a move that comes two weeks before the state's Supreme Court election and after the political action committee made a similar proposal last year in battleground states.

Musk's political action committee America PAC announced the petition in a post on X on Thursday night. It promises $100 for each Wisconsin voter who signs the petition and another $100 for each signer they refer.

The campaign for Susan Crawford, the Democratic-backed candidate for Wisconsin Supreme Court, said Musk was trying to buy votes ahead of the April 1 election. The offer was made two days after early voting started in the hotly contested race between Crawford and Brad Schimel, the preferred candidate of Musk and Republicans.

The winner of the election will determine whether the court remains under liberal control or flips to a conservative majority.

Musk's PAC used a nearly identical tactic ahead of the November presidential election, offering to pay $1 million a day to voters in Wisconsin and six other battleground states who signed a petition supporting the First and Second Amendments.

Philadelphia's district attorney sued in an attempt to stop the payments under Pennsylvania law. But a judge said that prosecutors failed to show that the effort was an illegal lottery and it was allowed to continue through Election Day.

America PAC and Building for America's Future, two groups Musk funds, have spent more than $13 million trying to help elect Schimel, according to a tally by the Brennan Center for Justice. The winner will determine whether conservative or liberal justices control the court, with key battles looming over abortion, public sector unions, voting rules and congressional district boundaries.

Crawford campaign spokesperson Derrick Honeyman accused Musk of "trying to buy a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court to secure a favorable ruling in his company's lawsuit against the state."

Just days before Musk's groups started spending on the Supreme Court race, electric car manufacturer Tesla sued Wisconsin over its decision to not allow it to open dealerships. Musk is the CEO of Tesla and also the head of rocket ship manufacturer SpaceX. Tesla's case could ultimately come before the Supreme Court.

"Very important to vote Republican for the Wisconsin Supreme Court to prevent voting fraud," Musk posted on X, just eight days before the lawsuit was filed in January.

Andrew Romeo, a spokesperson for America PAC, referred to the post on X announcing the petition when asked for comment on Friday. A spokesperson for Schimel's campaign did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment.

Crawford and her allies have made linking Schimel with Musk a key plank of their campaign. The Wisconsin Democratic Party released a new ad this week accusing Musk of trying to buy the seat for Schimel, a close ally of Trump's/

Schimel earlier this week campaigned with Donald Trump Jr. at an event where the president's son said electing Schimel was essential for protecting Trump's agenda. America PAC has also been making that argument in flyers it's handing out to Wisconsin voters.

Musk's other group, Building America's Future, said in a memo Thursday that to defeat Crawford it must "present Schimel as a pro-Trump conservative."

The new petition says that "Judges should interpret laws as written, not rewrite them to fit their personal or political agendas. By signing below, I'm rejecting the actions of activist judges who impose their own views and demanding a judiciary that respects its role — interpreting, not legislating."

The petition, while designed to collect data on Wisconsin voters and energize them, is also in line with President Donald Trump's agenda alleging that "activist" judges are illegally working against him. Trump's administration is embroiled in several lawsuits related to Musk's Department of Government Efficiency effort to downsize the federal bureaucracy.


Imagine if George Soros was doing this. :P
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

HVC

Maybe if someone did a genealogy and discovered musk has some Jewish in him? Things might turn. In America foreign Jew good, domestic Jew bad.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

DGuller

Quote from: HVC on March 21, 2025, 12:06:44 PMMaybe if someone did a genealogy and discovered musk has some Jewish in him? Things might turn. In America foreign Jew good, domestic Jew bad.
Definitely seems like you need a Jewish angle to mobilize the left to protest.

HVC

Quote from: DGuller on March 21, 2025, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 21, 2025, 12:06:44 PMMaybe if someone did a genealogy and discovered musk has some Jewish in him? Things might turn. In America foreign Jew good, domestic Jew bad.
Definitely seems like you need a Jewish angle to mobilize the left to protest.

Conservatives don't like the domestic Jews either, they just call them "globalists". Ones in Israel get a pass for many because of the apocalyptic bent of their preferred form of Christianity.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

Quote from: HVC on March 21, 2025, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: DGuller on March 21, 2025, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 21, 2025, 12:06:44 PMMaybe if someone did a genealogy and discovered musk has some Jewish in him? Things might turn. In America foreign Jew good, domestic Jew bad.
Definitely seems like you need a Jewish angle to mobilize the left to protest.

Conservatives don't like the domestic Jews either, they just call them "globalists". Ones in Israel get a pass for many because of the apocalyptic bent of their preferred form of Christianity.
The left says Zioinist, the right says globalist and both pretend the real antisemites are on the other side.  It's a real cute system we have going.  

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

crazy canuck

Quote from: DGuller on March 21, 2025, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 21, 2025, 12:06:44 PMMaybe if someone did a genealogy and discovered musk has some Jewish in him? Things might turn. In America foreign Jew good, domestic Jew bad.
Definitely seems like you need a Jewish angle to mobilize the left to protest.


People on the left have been protesting the manner in which Israel has conducted its military operations in Gaza.  People in the right carried  torches chanting "Jews will not replace us".

See if you can spot the difference.

Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 21, 2025, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: DGuller on March 21, 2025, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 21, 2025, 12:06:44 PMMaybe if someone did a genealogy and discovered musk has some Jewish in him? Things might turn. In America foreign Jew good, domestic Jew bad.
Definitely seems like you need a Jewish angle to mobilize the left to protest.


People on the left have been protesting the manner in which Israel has conducted its military operations in Gaza.  People in the right carried  torches chanting "Jews will not replace us".

See if you can spot the difference.
People on the left celebrated the massacre of 1200 Jews.  Democratic Socialist of America held a little parade on Oct 8th.  "Glory to our Martyrs!".
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

I'm on the left. I didn't celebrate. Can we stop generalizing?

Razgovory

Quote from: Zoupa on March 21, 2025, 05:22:54 PMI'm on the left. I didn't celebrate. Can we stop generalizing?
NOT ALL MEN!!!  NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE!!! NOT ALL LEFTISTS!!!

Not all rightists were carrying torches on Charlottesville.  You know that.  You also know that to get a large protest of leftists, it has to be about Israel.  You say Soros, we say AIPAC!
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017