What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

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Zoupa

Quote from: Razgovory on March 16, 2025, 09:27:15 AMYeah, no.  I'm not seeing people wearing Nazi uniforms here.

"you are terrible and I hate you"

"well, I'm not going to support you then"

"It just prove my point that you are terrible and you justify my hatred."



Have you considered that they are terrible to begin with? Jesus Christ my man, you'd argue with your fellow prisoners that if you guys could only be nice to the concentration camp guards, maybe they wouldn't have to put you in the gas chamber.

Razgovory

Quote from: Zoupa on March 16, 2025, 02:43:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 16, 2025, 09:27:15 AMYeah, no.  I'm not seeing people wearing Nazi uniforms here.

"you are terrible and I hate you"

"well, I'm not going to support you then"

"It just prove my point that you are terrible and you justify my hatred."



Have you considered that they are terrible to begin with? Jesus Christ my man, you'd argue with your fellow prisoners that if you guys could only be nice to the concentration camp guards, maybe they wouldn't have to put you in the gas chamber.
And then what?  What is our game plan when the majority of the population is terrible?  This is utterly self-defeating.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa


Razgovory

You want me to kill my neighbors?  Holy shit, you're crazier than I am.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Grey Fox

It's the only thing that will save you from tyranny.
Getting ready to make IEDs against American Occupation Forces.

"But I didn't vote for him"; they cried.

Razgovory

Dude, you're about to have a right wing government.  Are you going to go around killing people when that Pollievre guy gets elected?  This is stupid.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

Quote from: Razgovory on March 16, 2025, 04:16:14 PMYou want me to kill my neighbors?  Holy shit, you're crazier than I am.

I figure there'd be a few steps prior to that. Civil disobedience. Violence against property. History shows that if you want to fight fascism, you're gonna have to put your body on the line eventually.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Zoupa on March 16, 2025, 07:42:58 PMHistory shows that if you want to fight fascism, you're gonna have to put your body on the line eventually.

This is a little tautological. 

History shows that those who fight facism domestically lose.  Maybe an exception for the Sandanistas.  History also shows that facism can be defeated without violence, as in the US and UK.

Jacob


Oexmelin

Putting one's body on the line doesn't necessarily mean taking up arms. It can also mean facing off security forces nonviolently, though obviously there is no guarantee that violence wouldn't be deployed against you - as Civil Rights activists painfully knew. Of course, if you still think this is meaningless political theater, I am not sure what kinds of methods remain available to you.
Que le grand cric me croque !

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Jacob on March 16, 2025, 08:26:07 PMThe jury is still out on the US

The jury is not still out on whether fascism can be defeated nonviolently in the US, unless I've been reading some really bad history.

Zoupa

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 16, 2025, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: Jacob on March 16, 2025, 08:26:07 PMThe jury is still out on the US

The jury is not still out on whether fascism can be defeated nonviolently in the US, unless I've been reading some really bad history.

Am I ignorant of a period of history when fascists were in power in the US? Are you talking about trump's first term?

HVC

Trumps voiding Bidens pardons. Or at least threatening to.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

See, this is what happens when you use "fascism" too loosely.  You have some Canadians trying to get you to burn shit down because they are upset over tariffs on aluminum and wood.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 01:07:23 AMSee, this is what happens when you use "fascism" too loosely.  You have some Canadians trying to get you to burn shit down because they are upset over tariffs on aluminum and wood.

Canadians sigh when you talk about tariffs. It's stupid and counterproductive, but nothing we haven't dealt with before.

We get mad when you talk about annexation. That's putin talk, exactly the same retorique he used about Ukraine. I wish you yanks could tell the difference.

It's not the fucking tariffs, it's the 51st state bullshit.

But anyways. Keep thinking there's nothing major going on and it's business as usual. It ain't my country going down the shitter.