What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Zoupa]

Yeah, no.  I'm not seeing people wearing Nazi uniforms here.

"you are terrible and I hate you"

"well, I'm not going to support you then"

"It just prove my point that you are terrible and you justify my hatred."

Have you considered that they are terrible to begin with? Jesus Christ my man, you'd argue with your fellow prisoners that if you guys could only be nice to the concentration camp guards, maybe they wouldn't have to put you in the gas chamber.

[Razgovory]

Yeah, no.  I'm not seeing people wearing Nazi uniforms here.

"you are terrible and I hate you"

"well, I'm not going to support you then"

"It just prove my point that you are terrible and you justify my hatred."

Have you considered that they are terrible to begin with? Jesus Christ my man, you'd argue with your fellow prisoners that if you guys could only be nice to the concentration camp guards, maybe they wouldn't have to put you in the gas chamber.

And then what?  What is our game plan when the majority of the population is terrible?  This is utterly self-defeating.

[Zoupa]

Violence.

[Razgovory]

You want me to kill my neighbors?  Holy shit, you're crazier than I am.

[Grey Fox]

It's the only thing that will save you from tyranny.

[Razgovory]

Dude, you're about to have a right wing government.  Are you going to go around killing people when that Pollievre guy gets elected?  This is stupid.

[Zoupa]

You want me to kill my neighbors?  Holy shit, you're crazier than I am.

I figure there'd be a few steps prior to that. Civil disobedience. Violence against property. History shows that if you want to fight fascism, you're gonna have to put your body on the line eventually.

[Admiral Yi]

History shows that if you want to fight fascism, you're gonna have to put your body on the line eventually.

This is a little tautological. 

History shows that those who fight facism domestically lose.  Maybe an exception for the Sandanistas.  History also shows that facism can be defeated without violence, as in the US and UK.

[Jacob]

The jury is still out on the US

[Oexmelin]

Putting one's body on the line doesn't necessarily mean taking up arms. It can also mean facing off security forces nonviolently, though obviously there is no guarantee that violence wouldn't be deployed against you - as Civil Rights activists painfully knew. Of course, if you still think this is meaningless political theater, I am not sure what kinds of methods remain available to you.

[Admiral Yi]

The jury is still out on the US

The jury is not still out on whether fascism can be defeated nonviolently in the US, unless I've been reading some really bad history.

[Zoupa]

The jury is still out on the US

The jury is not still out on whether fascism can be defeated nonviolently in the US, unless I've been reading some really bad history.

Am I ignorant of a period of history when fascists were in power in the US? Are you talking about trump's first term?

[HVC]

Trumps voiding Bidens pardons. Or at least threatening to.

[Razgovory]

See, this is what happens when you use "fascism" too loosely.  You have some Canadians trying to get you to burn shit down because they are upset over tariffs on aluminum and wood.

[Zoupa]

See, this is what happens when you use "fascism" too loosely.  You have some Canadians trying to get you to burn shit down because they are upset over tariffs on aluminum and wood.

Canadians sigh when you talk about tariffs. It's stupid and counterproductive, but nothing we haven't dealt with before.

We get mad when you talk about annexation. That's putin talk, exactly the same retorique he used about Ukraine. I wish you yanks could tell the difference.

It's not the fucking tariffs, it's the 51st state bullshit.

But anyways. Keep thinking there's nothing major going on and it's business as usual. It ain't my country going down the shitter.