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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Razgovory

Quote from: viper37 on January 28, 2025, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 28, 2025, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: viper37 on January 28, 2025, 04:54:42 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 28, 2025, 04:45:31 PMWhy stab stupid people, when you can stab people who knew what would happen and maliciously let it happen anyway.  People who wanted to punish this country because it would not indulge their sectarian and racial hatreds. :)
Ah, you're picking the path of least resistance, the people you already hate. :)

Good to know you're not really different. :)
You are very weird.  You are upset that I don't like bad people, and instead want me to go after people like you, right-wing nationalists.
I would disagree they are people like me.  I have nothing in common with right wing ultra-religious people bent on ethnic cleansing and political violence.  You on the other end...
You have some perverse desire to see these guys as "ultra-religious", which doesn't describe the majority of them at all.  They are, however, American and English-speaking.  And that is where your have a problem.  If Trump and his crew were Francophones, you'd be onboard.  And ethic-cleansing, you really seem on board with that.  You may be big on supporting Islamic fundamentalists overseas, but you are much, much less keen on them in your own country.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Grey Fox

Large predatory mammal in N.America is a pretty small list.

The larger Bears;
Mountain Lions.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Oexmelin on January 28, 2025, 05:47:54 PMIt's only stupid if you want a functioning government. If you want to scuttle government, so that your friends' businesses can provide that service, or are no longer bound by regulations that can no longer be enforced, undermining government both through useless expenditures and loss of capacity is a great idea.

The sea-steading tech bros are in the ascendant.

Take a Venn diagram and find the intersection of those people who thought that both Snowcrash and the Handmaid's Tale were intended to depict aspirational utopias.  That mentality is now driving the federal executive bus.
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Razgovory

If you want to know what the Tech-bros want, read stuff by Curtis Yarvin.  He's Peter Theil's pet philosopher.  It's neither Handmaid's tale or Snow Piercer.  It's Cyberpunk with kings.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Razgovory on January 29, 2025, 01:28:55 AMIf you want to know what the Tech-bros want, read stuff by Curtis Yarvin.  He's Peter Theil's pet philosopher.  It's neither Handmaid's tale or Snow Piercer.  It's Cyberpunk with kings.

France still has some guillotines around. Cyberpunk heads separate just as swiftly

Syt

Quote from: Razgovory on January 29, 2025, 01:28:55 AMIf you want to know what the Tech-bros want, read stuff by Curtis Yarvin.  He's Peter Theil's pet philosopher.  It's neither Handmaid's tale or Snow Piercer.  It's Cyberpunk with kings.

Saw the NYT interview with that guy. What a windbag that does everything except give straight answers. :P
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Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

mongers

Quote from: Syt on January 29, 2025, 02:35:32 AMOn China moving into the US sphere:

https://www.mckinsey.com/mgi/our-research/global-trade-explorer?sector=0ag

.. snip ...

Thanks Syt, interesting; I wonder just how much Trump tariff will accelerate that 'process'?
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grumbler

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 28, 2025, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 28, 2025, 05:44:08 PMThere can be a role for buyouts, and I'm open to the idea that there's room for a reduction in headcount in the US federal government.

But a blanket offer of buyouts is just fucking stupid until you know what cuts you want to make.  You could get half of some really vital workers taking the buyout, and almost none of the most useless workers taking them.

You are an absolute fucking moron shill, and I hope a large North American predatory mammal rips your fucking head off.

 :huh:
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Tamas

QuoteTrump offers US federal workers buyouts to resign
In another part of its efforts to reshape the US government, the Trump administration has offered federal workers buyouts worth more than seven months' salary to leave their jobs.

A memo circulated on Tuesday evening set out four mandatory directives, including a full-time return to the office for most employees. It also said that the federal workforce would be subjected to "enhanced standards of suitability and conduct" and warned that most agencies would be downsized.

It said the offer to leave would remain open until 6 February.

The US government is roughly the nation's 15th-largest workforce, with more than 3 million employees. Project 2025, the conservative manifesto that has guided much of Trump's policy goals, calls for mass firings of federal workers and suggests replacing many with political appointees.

Denouncing the offer, the president of the American Federation of Government Employees union, Everett Kelley, said it was part of an attempt to pressure workers not considered loyal to the new administration to leave their jobs.

"Purging the federal government of dedicated career federal employees will have vast, unintended consequences that will cause chaos for the Americans who depend on a functioning federal government," a statement read.

Are we ready to confirm that Trump IS in fact working on enacting Project 2025?

Grey Fox

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Valmy

Quote from: Tamas on January 29, 2025, 09:56:23 AM
QuoteTrump offers US federal workers buyouts to resign
In another part of its efforts to reshape the US government, the Trump administration has offered federal workers buyouts worth more than seven months' salary to leave their jobs.

A memo circulated on Tuesday evening set out four mandatory directives, including a full-time return to the office for most employees. It also said that the federal workforce would be subjected to "enhanced standards of suitability and conduct" and warned that most agencies would be downsized.

It said the offer to leave would remain open until 6 February.

The US government is roughly the nation's 15th-largest workforce, with more than 3 million employees. Project 2025, the conservative manifesto that has guided much of Trump's policy goals, calls for mass firings of federal workers and suggests replacing many with political appointees.

Denouncing the offer, the president of the American Federation of Government Employees union, Everett Kelley, said it was part of an attempt to pressure workers not considered loyal to the new administration to leave their jobs.

"Purging the federal government of dedicated career federal employees will have vast, unintended consequences that will cause chaos for the Americans who depend on a functioning federal government," a statement read.

Are we ready to confirm that Trump IS in fact working on enacting Project 2025?

The confirmation was there months ago. This was always what they were going to do if they won.
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garbon

I think this is an example of the media ultimately serving to distract us with silly shit that doesn't matter.

Interesting how quick the Guardian is on this inconsequential matter to point out Trump is in the wrong vs in story about Trump vs. Colombia I had to scroll down deep in the article to understand Trump's fuckery.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/jan/29/trump-nasa-astronauts-musk-spacex
QuoteDonald Trump has asked Elon Musk's SpaceX to bring back two astronauts "stranded" in space, despite Nasa saying they are not stranded and will return to Earth by the end of March.

Trump said that he had asked Musk and SpaceX to get "the 2 brave astronauts who have been virtually abandoned in space by the Biden Administration". The US president added on Truth Social: "Good luck Elon!!!"
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crazy canuck

Quote from: garbon on January 28, 2025, 05:27:16 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 28, 2025, 04:44:43 PMThe NYTimes is reporting the portals through which the states get their federal funding for Medicare stopped working this morning.

I think it is Medicaid not Medicare. The latter is all old Americans while former is put crudely for the poor.

Thanks for the correction

Barrister

Quote from: grumbler on January 29, 2025, 08:10:17 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 28, 2025, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 28, 2025, 05:44:08 PMThere can be a role for buyouts, and I'm open to the idea that there's room for a reduction in headcount in the US federal government.

But a blanket offer of buyouts is just fucking stupid until you know what cuts you want to make.  You could get half of some really vital workers taking the buyout, and almost none of the most useless workers taking them.

You are an absolute fucking moron shill, and I hope a large North American predatory mammal rips your fucking head off.

 :huh:

I thought I posted some really boring, mainline stuff.  I even called Trump's move "fucking stupid".

But I guess I didn't use enough profanity?
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