What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Legbiter]

FFS there is no excuse for this in 2025.  The pretending that Trump has some rational strategy underlining his vocalized brain farts; rationalizing the unjustifiable. 

It's a real estate hustle - he sees a big piece of land and wants to grab it cheap, using threats and dirty tricks as needed. He knows fuck all about Arctic geostrategic competition; he was reading a magazine when that was briefed.

All the Greenlanders I've had a chat with through a very, very saga-like chain of family events (my sister made friends over there while performing in a magician's troupe) were politically active and were super nationalistic. Like Icelanders in the beginning of the 20th century nationalistic... The US already has as much influence as it wants in Greenland. You want to set up further facilities for whatever, the Danes and especially the Greenlanders would be delighted.

You don't have to paint the map like Russia.

[Barrister]

FFS there is no excuse for this in 2025.  The pretending that Trump has some rational strategy underlining his vocalized brain farts; rationalizing the unjustifiable. 

It's a real estate hustle - he sees a big piece of land and wants to grab it cheap, using threats and dirty tricks as needed. He knows fuck all about Arctic geostrategic competition; he was reading a magazine when that was briefed.

All the Greenlanders I've had a chat with through a very, very saga-like chain of family events (my sister made friends over there while performing in a magician's troupe) were politically active and were super nationalistic. Like Icelanders in the beginning of the 20th century nationalistic... The US already has as much influence as it wants in Greenland. You want to set up further facilities for whatever, the Danes and especially the Greenlanders would be delighted.

You don't have to paint the map like Russia.

It's the same with Canada.  US doesn't have any US-only military bases but has pretty free reign to use Canadian facilities.  Modern satellites have eliminated the need for the old DEW radar stations, but we had no issue with those.  I guess the only thing is we refuse to station nuclear missiles here - but really would the US want to bother stationing them here anyways?  We're not that much closer to Russia (or China).

In terms of resources - again US companies have free access to develop them.

And when Trump points out Canadians would pay fewer taxes - part of that is Canadian social services like Medicare, but beyond that - I guess the US is just going to subsidize us then?

There's no real advantage other than painting the map.

[Legbiter]

It's the same with Canada.  US doesn't have any US-only military bases but has pretty free reign to use Canadian facilities.  Modern satellites have eliminated the need for the old DEW radar stations, but we had no issue with those.  I guess the only thing is we refuse to station nuclear missiles here - but really would the US want to bother stationing them here anyways?  We're not that much closer to Russia (or China).

In terms of resources - again US companies have free access to develop them.

And when Trump points out Canadians would pay fewer taxes - part of that is Canadian social services like Medicare, but beyond that - I guess the US is just going to subsidize us then?

There's no real advantage other than painting the map.

The last time the US invaded Canada back in 1812, they did so in a 3-pronged attack. 2 were cut off from their supplies almost immediately and retreated and the last one advanced up a defended hill, got shot to shit and fled back ingloriously.

Now I have no idea whether modern Canadians think of themselves as a nation or whether it's all "you live on stolen land, give your virgin daughters to Justin Trudeau to wipe away your sins" or whatever, but probably the next Canadian leader will be 2000% less cringe than the last one.

[Grey Fox]

Oh, you're in for quite the surprise there. He's cringe for entirely different reasons but PP his so very cringy.

[Sheilbh]

I read his post as critical of Lammy.

Lammy is trying the old Trump whisperer game of trying to repackage Trump's B.S. as a rational strategic initiative, with the hope of deflecting him to some useful direction. Lindsey Graham's been trying to play that hustle for years, and every time, he's the one that gets hustled.

Yeah sorry it is critical. I like Lammy. I get why he's doing it. From all accounts he has a very good relationship with Vance especially which is helpful. Lord Mandelson when he becomes ambassador also absolutely needs to schmooze the Trump team and MAGA Senators etc.

But it is insane to be saying that Trump is, of course, aware of Greenlanders debate on self-determination instigated by the Prime Minister there. He's not.

[mongers]

FFS there is no excuse for this in 2025.  The pretending that Trump has some rational strategy underlining his vocalized brain farts; rationalizing the unjustifiable. 

It's a real estate hustle - he sees a big piece of land and wants to grab it cheap, using threats and dirty tricks as needed. He knows fuck all about Arctic geostrategic competition; he was reading a magazine when that was briefed.

All the Greenlanders I've had a chat with through a very, very saga-like chain of family events (my sister made friends over there while performing in a magician's troupe) were politically active and were super nationalistic. Like Icelanders in the beginning of the 20th century nationalistic... The US already has as much influence as it wants in Greenland. You want to set up further facilities for whatever, the Danes and especially the Greenlanders would be delighted.

You don't have to paint the map like Russia.

Leggy, I love that anecdote.