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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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grumbler

Quote from: Barrister on November 21, 2024, 01:20:49 PMI more meant she was the bigger piece of shit - at least when compared to the role she was nominated for.

One risk though (if I understand it right) is that once someone is Senate approved for one position, they can then be moved to a completely different position.  So just as one example (and she's hardly the worst one) once Elise Stefanik is approved to be UN Ambassador, she could then be moved over to AG without having to go through further Senate confirmation.

Wait!  What?
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mongers

To lighten the mood somewhat, listen to a couple of minutes of this bbc comedy podcast, from the 18 minute point onwards:

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Zanza

What's the take on Scott Bessent? He is supposed to be the serious, moderate choice.

Barrister

Quote from: grumbler on November 22, 2024, 09:17:30 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 21, 2024, 01:20:49 PMI more meant she was the bigger piece of shit - at least when compared to the role she was nominated for.

One risk though (if I understand it right) is that once someone is Senate approved for one position, they can then be moved to a completely different position.  So just as one example (and she's hardly the worst one) once Elise Stefanik is approved to be UN Ambassador, she could then be moved over to AG without having to go through further Senate confirmation.

Wait!  What?

Just that - once you've been confirmed by the Senate for one position, you do not need to be confirmed by the Senate if you move to another position that also requires Senate approval.

Now most of the time that's completely uncontroversial.  The Deputy Attorney-General is a position that needs Senate confirmation.  But, if later on the AG retires, the Deputy AG can move into the more senior spot without any fuss - and without a new confirmation hearing.

But there's some room for trickery here.  Trump could appoint someone grossly unqualified, but to a lower position, and the Senate just kind of gives up (aka flooding the zone with shit) and confirms the position.  Trump could then later appoint the person to a much more important position without Senate confirmation - because they've already been Senate-confirmed.
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Josquius


That's a shitty loophole. They've talked about using this?

I can just see how the attack will work too "they won't even confirm Billy Klanson for dog catcher general. They're just determined to hold up everything"
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Barrister

Quote from: Josquius on November 25, 2024, 02:34:52 PMThat's a shitty loophole. They've talked about using this?

I can just see how the attack will work too "they won't even confirm Billy Klanson for dog catcher general. They're just determined to hold up everything"

I mean dog catcher general doesn't require senate confirmation - but I think a couple hundred positions do.

They haven't talked as much about doing this, but rather about recess appointments - which if allowed would skip senate confirmation alltogether.
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viper37

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 25, 2024, 02:36:56 PM

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Can he refile it later, if Trump ever leaves power?
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Trump plans an executive order to impose 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico in January.
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Valmy

Quote from: viper37 on November 25, 2024, 07:17:33 PMTrump plans an executive order to impose 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico in January.

Hrm...that would be pretty bad for my family.

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Valmy

Quote from: Grey Fox on November 25, 2024, 08:00:10 PMThere goes 35% of my division business.

Yes but take heart. Trump is a man who talks much and does little. So who knows what he might actually do?
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Quote from: Valmy on November 25, 2024, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 25, 2024, 08:00:10 PMThere goes 35% of my division business.

Yes but take heart. Trump is a man who talks much and does little. So who knows what he might actually do?
But he can just do this with a sign of the pen, so I'm pretty sure it will happen.
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Zanza

Will be interesting whether he puts a similar tariff on the EU. I guess at least not with reference to Fentanyl or migration. If the EU tariff is lower, it might even help some EU firms to compete in the US market.