Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Grey Fox]

Rumors of the French thinking of sending special forces into Ukraine to, at least, create a strategic conundrum for Russia.

It would be great to see the Legion in action.

[Josquius]

Rumors of the French thinking of sending special forces into Ukraine to, at least, create a strategic conundrum for Russia.

It would be great to see the Legion in action.

IMO this is probably better worded as "French considering revealing they have special forces in Ukraine".

Seems likely to me there's Brits and French already there in some capacity.

[Duque de Bragança]

Rumors of the French thinking of sending special forces into Ukraine to, at least, create a strategic conundrum for Russia.

It would be great to see the Legion in action.

IMO this is probably better worded as "French considering revealing they have special forces in Ukraine".


Seems likely to me there's Brits and French already there in some capacity.

I would not be surprised, if it were the case.

[Tamas]

Actually, let's say the war goes really bad for Ukraine in the Donbass, what if some NATO countries say, ok we are deploying peace keepers on the west bank of the Dnepr? I could see this work, but only if it would be accompanied by signalling Russia that there can be a peace settlement with border changes. Which would be quite a bad thing for international order, still.

[Tonitrus]

Germans taking a hit again...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68457087

[Tamas]

Germans taking a hit again...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68457087

[The Brain]

Can't anything be (fig-leaf) dismissed as AI-made material these days?

Obviously the Russians trying to make it Germany planning an attack on the bridge is very weak stuff. If the article is correct the conversation is about Ukraine attacking the bridge.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Germans taking a hit again...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68457087

the only proper reaction is to blow that bridge.
And accept that the Russians are at war with the civilized world

[Tamas]

Germans taking a hit again...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68457087

the only proper reaction is to blow that bridge.
And accept that the Russians are at war with the civilized world

Yes. I was more reacting to the Germans being full of Russian sympathisers and spies.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Germans taking a hit again...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68457087

the only proper reaction is to blow that bridge.
And accept that the Russians are at war with the civilized world

Yes. I was more reacting to the Germans being full of Russian sympathisers and spies.

I know. Not a dig at you.
The Germans finally have a chance to be on the right side in a conflict and they seem to be effing that up.

[Sheilbh]

To be clear Germany's the biggest supporter of Ukraine in Europe, in material terms. And I think the Zeitenwende is real.

But I think a lot of figures in German elite circles (politicians, security and foreign policy world) are struggling to follow through the logic of what Germany's policies and statements mean. That doesn't negate the policies and statements.

[Zoupa]

The Brits are not doing that much but have great PR. The Germans are doing a lot but have terrible PR. The French are a mixture of both.

I'm over generalizing but you know what I'm saying.

[Josquius]

Given Russias recent reporting of the German military basically openly chatting about state secrets in the middle of a Moscow street... And how obsessed they are with the war...
Germany is in a weird place where it can be helpful that their aid is drastically under emphasised.

[Sheilbh]

The Brits are not doing that much but have great PR. The Germans are doing a lot but have terrible PR. The French are a mixture of both.

I'm over generalizing but you know what I'm saying.

Basically yes - from a UK perspective this is very true since Sunak took over.

[Zanza]

From what we know that's pretty devastating incompetence. Makes you wonder if Germany is a partner you share sensible information with.