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Elon Musk: Always A Douche

Started by garbon, July 15, 2018, 07:01:42 PM

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Quote from: Josquius on February 15, 2024, 04:40:43 PMIsn't Lucid just a dodgy stock market pump and dump?
Certainly not...  ;)

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Quote from: crazy canuck on February 20, 2024, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: Zanza on February 20, 2024, 08:14:51 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 20, 2024, 06:22:56 PMReport today that Ford and Tesla are getting into a price war.

That is something Ford has the resources to outlast.
Ford's Q4/23 figures do not sound like they have more stamina for a price war than Tesla. Or maybe I am missing why you think they could outlast Tesla?

It's simple really, Ford has higher margin vehicles that drive its profits. Tesla has only this line of vehicles.


What do you refer to here? Tesla's BEV vehicles have better margins than Ford's ICE vehicles.


crazy canuck

Quote from: Zanza on February 24, 2024, 05:40:42 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 20, 2024, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: Zanza on February 20, 2024, 08:14:51 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 20, 2024, 06:22:56 PMReport today that Ford and Tesla are getting into a price war.

That is something Ford has the resources to outlast.
Ford's Q4/23 figures do not sound like they have more stamina for a price war than Tesla. Or maybe I am missing why you think they could outlast Tesla?

It's simple really, Ford has higher margin vehicles that drive its profits. Tesla has only this line of vehicles.


What do you refer to here? Tesla's BEV vehicles have better margins than Ford's ICE vehicles.

The price war has just started andTesla has started cutting its prices which will necessarily cut its margins. Ford is cutting its prices on its vehicle not its internal combustion engines.

Jacob

Article saying that the Chinese car industry is well poised at the moment vs European and American companies: https://www.businessinsider.com/china-xi-jinping-crush-tesla-elon-musk-american-ev-industry-2024-2

I guess a big question is how much US will rely on even higher tariffs, and how effective they'll be. Chinese EV manufacturers may set up shop in Mexico to take advantage of local free trade agreements.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on February 26, 2024, 11:18:21 AMArticle saying that the Chinese car industry is well poised at the moment vs European and American companies: https://www.businessinsider.com/china-xi-jinping-crush-tesla-elon-musk-american-ev-industry-2024-2

I guess a big question is how much US will rely on even higher tariffs, and how effective they'll be. Chinese EV manufacturers may set up shop in Mexico to take advantage of local free trade agreements.

Simply setting up shop in Mexico is not guaranteed end run into the North American free trade zone.  There are unit limits built into the current trade agreement, which would make such a strategy untenable for China and for the existing manufacturers in Mexico.

Zanza

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Chinese competition catching up fast has been a major theme for about five years, and the decade before that for parts.

From what I've heard, their prime target for exports this and next year will actually not be triad markets (US, WEU, JP), but rather the "global south". The US and EU actually do have quite high non-tariff market entry barriers in addition to tariffs. However, the Chinese will of course be able to overcome these eventually unless additional ones are created just to deter them. But that's tough as the Western car makers still rely heavily on the Chinese market.

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