Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Threviel]

I think the Ukrainians are very clever in their offensives. A motti is difficult to destroy, 5000 or so soldiers fighting for their life is another Mariupol. Could take weeks or months and cost thousands of lives to take.

If an avenue of retreat, however vulnerable, is left open the almost encircled enemy will try to retreat that way and it becomes a killing field, a mini-Falaise. It's what we'll hopefully see in Kherson and what we see in Lyman. The goal isn't to kill every Russian, it's to get the fuckers out of Ukraine and the cheapest way to do that is to get them to run to the border themselves, preferably under fire.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

I think the Ukrainians are very clever in their offensives. A motti is difficult to destroy, 5000 or so soldiers fighting for their life is another Mariupol. Could take weeks or months and cost thousands of lives to take.

If an avenue of retreat, however vulnerable, is left open the almost encircled enemy will try to retreat that way and it becomes a killing field, a mini-Falaise. It's what we'll hopefully see in Kherson and what we see in Lyman. The goal isn't to kill every Russian, it's to get the fuckers out of Ukraine and the cheapest way to do that is to get them to run to the border themselves, preferably under fire.

not to mention 'convincing' them to leave their equipment behind, so it can act as resupply and reinforcement of the UAF.

[Admiral Yi]

It's cool how all the horn heads are using the word motti now.  I had to look it up.

[viper37]

I think the Ukrainians are very clever in their offensives. A motti is difficult to destroy, 5000 or so soldiers fighting for their life is another Mariupol. Could take weeks or months and cost thousands of lives to take.

If an avenue of retreat, however vulnerable, is left open the almost encircled enemy will try to retreat that way and it becomes a killing field, a mini-Falaise.

well, that's from Sun Tzu's book.

[Zanza]

Putin blamed the Anglo-Saxons for the Nordstream destruction and now compelling evidence has been found:

[OttoVonBismarck]

I heard that same thing, I honestly wondered if that was a weird "lost in translation" thing from Russian:English? Or what's going on there...

[Zoupa]

Anglosaxons is used quite a bit in France, usually meaning the UK & US.

It might also be used the same way in russia.

[Tamas]

Yeah altough not frequently, but in Hungary as well "Anglo-Saxon countries" is used alto reference the US and UK together.

[Syt]

It's not very common anymore I think, but angelsächsisch was used to refer to the British (and esp. English) in German; in a wider sense ("anglo-saxon world") it could also extend to the US, Canada, Australia/NZ, but that's even rarer.

[Zanza]

The Americans use it themselves in the term White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP), right?

[celedhring]

Yeah altough not frequently, but in Hungary as well "Anglo-Saxon countries" is used alto reference the US and UK together.

Same here.

[Admiral Yi]

The Americans use it themselves in the term White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP), right?

It's not a term you hear very much any more.

There was some discussion a while ago about the formation of an "Anglosphere."

[Legbiter]

Ukrainians advanced some distance in Kherson overnight. It seems it's finally coming together, Western logistics, training and equipment together with Ukrainian grit and numbers.    

[crazy canuck]

Anglosaxons is used quite a bit in France, usually meaning the UK & US.

It might also be used the same way in russia.

Back in the day Anglo-Saxon meant white and ancestors from Britain.

In these parts, WASPs were the ruling elite. But in my lifetime that has changed dramatically. I have not heard that term being used since about the late 80s.

[mongers]

Ukrainians advanced some distance in Kherson overnight. It seems it's finally coming together, Western logistics, training and equipment together with Ukrainian grit and numbers.

Good to hear and calling Putin's bluff as well.