Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Josephus]

Actually the interesting thing about the genders thing, is he may be playing to the Trumpists in the USA. If he can get a significant number of Americans on his side, he may not have to worry about a war with USA.

[Legbiter]

Seems the US is already countering the conscript meat the Russians will deploy.

Ukraine received new rockets for HIMARS/M270- here we can see a pod of M30A1 guided rockets.
M30A1 differs from previously seen M31A1/A2 by an alternative warhead with 182000 preformed spheroid steel/tungsten fragments and is designed to be used against soft targets.

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1575843498217144321

[crazy canuck]

Now are on to defending children from being introduced additional genders.

well, that's worth a nuclear war.

That part of the speech was written by Tucker

[DGuller]

Tucker's speeches are written by Putin, or rather his speech writer, not the other way around.

[Legbiter]

Actually the interesting thing about the genders thing, is he may be playing to the Trumpists in the USA. If he can get a significant number of Americans on his side, he may not have to worry about a war with USA.

What is grimly funny is that on every metric you'd care to examine, divorce rate, abortion, family fertility, child poverty, inequality, etc you'd conclude that Russia is literally the Antichrist compared to the West...

[OttoVonBismarck]

Russia is literally the Antichrist compared to the West, it is a long running hell hole.

[DGuller]

If this situation does end with total nuclear war, I wonder if historians will re-evaluate WW2 in light of that (assuming historians or other kinds of humans would still exist).  The Nazis were bad, but in hindsight the Soviets would turn out to be much worse for humanity.

[Tonitrus]

So apparently Putin thinks we're the Great Satan now.  Iranian influence ops have been working to well.

[OttoVonBismarck]

If this situation does end with total nuclear war, I wonder if historians will re-evaluate WW2 in light of that (assuming historians or other kinds of humans would still exist).  The Nazis were bad, but in hindsight the Soviets would turn out to be much worse for humanity.

I'm not much worried about historians after the nuclear apocalypse.

[viper37]

they regularly blow up pipelines that create ecological disasters.  And animal rights activists regularly cruelly slaughter animals to prove their point about animal suffering.  Contradictions isn't really an alibi...  Means, however... 

  

right, because slaughtering a duck by repeatedly hitting it to a pillar while your friend is filming it to simulate cruel and inhumane behavior at a slaughterhouse is totally acceptable.

Just as is repeatedly hooking a seal to maintain him on the ice while he bleeds to death for an hour while you film your documentary denouncing the cruelty of seal hunting is a justifiable act.  All for a good cause, after all.

And never, ever has any eco-terrorist blow up a pipeline.  Never.  Oil companies blow them up themselves to accuse to peaceful protesters of mischievous acts.

[alfred russel]

If this situation does end with total nuclear war, I wonder if historians will re-evaluate WW2 in light of that (assuming historians or other kinds of humans would still exist).  The Nazis were bad, but in hindsight the Soviets would turn out to be much worse for humanity.

I'm not much worried about historians after the nuclear apocalypse.

Perhaps it might be better, DGuller, if you were more concerned with the American People than with our image in the history books.

[Jacob]

Putin made a rousing Nazi speech to an unenthusiastic audience. I don't see why we suddenly need to crumble in fear.

What's he going to do next? Make another mean speech?

He's going to use nukes? THIS time he means it, compared to the other fifty times he's smarmily threatened the world with nuclear war?

Empty bluster. Stay the course.

[Razgovory]

I totally reject viper's premise that the pipeline was destroyed by hitting a duck.

[Josquius]

If this situation does end with total nuclear war, I wonder if historians will re-evaluate WW2 in light of that (assuming historians or other kinds of humans would still exist).  The Nazis were bad, but in hindsight the Soviets would turn out to be much worse for humanity.

Surely it's the collapse of the Soviet union that led to this?
The world came close numerous times when the Soviets were around... But ultimately was too sensible for nuclear war.

[Valmy]

they regularly blow up pipelines that create ecological disasters.  And animal rights activists regularly cruelly slaughter animals to prove their point about animal suffering.  Contradictions isn't really an alibi...  Means, however... 

  

right, because slaughtering a duck by repeatedly hitting it to a pillar while your friend is filming it to simulate cruel and inhumane behavior at a slaughterhouse is totally acceptable.

Just as is repeatedly hooking a seal to maintain him on the ice while he bleeds to death for an hour while you film your documentary denouncing the cruelty of seal hunting is a justifiable act.  All for a good cause, after all.

And never, ever has any eco-terrorist blow up a pipeline.  Never.  Oil companies blow them up themselves to accuse to peaceful protesters of mischievous acts.

It was sure convenient for Russia for eco-terrorists to blow up the pipeline just in time for Putin to use it in his propaganda speech.