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America sucks?
Most Americans pronounce "been" as "bin".
Odd.
I thought most people pronounced it in the same way as "seen"
Time for the soda map!
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 04:28:08 PM
Time for the soda map!
A map showing pop or soft drink preferences would be more interesting.
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Philly wankers
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"The City" = Constantinople :jaron:
My co-workers and I were just discussing this before I left work. My fave is the sunshowers one and the drive through liquor store.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 05, 2013, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 04:28:08 PM
Time for the soda map!
:mad:
True his soda map sucked so here's the old good one.
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By county??? :yeah:
I thought they called subs "grinders" in Boston. Surprised heroes don't get a little more love.
Anyone know of a map for interstates? I.e. "the five" vs. "I five?"
I feel like punching somebody in the nuts.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 05:13:48 PM
I thought they called subs "grinders" in Boston. Surprised heroes don't get a little more love.
Anyone know of a map for interstates? I.e. "the five" vs. "I five?"
I five, I eighty, etc
The five is that fox show with the hot chicks. :P
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 05, 2013, 05:15:46 PM
I feel like punching somebody in the nuts.
Is that how you indicate you would like some pop?
Quote from: 11B4V on June 05, 2013, 05:18:53 PM
The five is that fox show with the hot chicks. :P
Or and important freeway on the west coast. :angry:
Quote from: garbon on June 05, 2013, 05:22:13 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 05, 2013, 05:18:53 PM
The five is that fox show with the hot chicks. :P
Or and important freeway on the west coast. :angry:
I five :mad:
It's soda. TV taught me that.
Quote from: Liep on June 05, 2013, 05:24:12 PM
It's soda. TV taught me that.
Concur.
Pop is what hillbillies say.
I still wonder what they are calling it in those parts of New Mexico and North Carolina. :hmm:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 05:13:48 PM
I thought they called subs "grinders" in Boston.
Yup
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The "carmel" pronunciation of the word "caramel" has always annoyed the piss out of me. My mom's family were repeat offenders. Always sounded lazy and provincial to me.
That map didn't distinguish between car-a-mel and care-a-mel.
Quote from: derspiess on June 05, 2013, 06:51:43 PM
The "carmel" pronunciation of the word "caramel" has always annoyed the piss out of me. My mom's family were repeat offenders. Always sounded lazy and provincial to me.
You'll live.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 05, 2013, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 05:13:48 PM
I thought they called subs "grinders" in Boston.
Yup
No. They call them that in Rhode Island, or more accurately "grinduhs". It's "sub" in Boston. When I went there for college I got roundly mocked the first time I said I wanted a "hoagie".
Da fuck is a gawdamn hoagie, kid?
Quote from: 11B4V on June 05, 2013, 05:25:17 PM
Quote from: Liep on June 05, 2013, 05:24:12 PM
It's soda. TV taught me that.
Concur.
Pop is what hillbillies say.
uhhhhhhhh no. Hicks here do say "coke" for all sodas. Pop is a Chicago thing for sure.
Also, the map about "the city" is complete bullshit. NOBODY down here says that when they mean New York. :wacko:
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 05, 2013, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 05, 2013, 06:51:43 PM
The "carmel" pronunciation of the word "caramel" has always annoyed the piss out of me. My mom's family were repeat offenders. Always sounded lazy and provincial to me.
You'll live.
YOU'RE ONE OF THEM, AREN'T YOU
I was born in Caramel, California.
Quote from: derspiess on June 05, 2013, 08:11:59 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 05, 2013, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 05, 2013, 06:51:43 PM
The "carmel" pronunciation of the word "caramel" has always annoyed the piss out of me. My mom's family were repeat offenders. Always sounded lazy and provincial to me.
You'll live.
YOU'RE ONE OF THEM, AREN'T YOU
Yep. I do it to annoy people.
I also ask for Moxie.
Quote from: Caliga on June 05, 2013, 07:49:40 PM
No. They call them that in Rhode Island, or more accurately "grinduhs". It's "sub" in Boston. When I went there for college I got roundly mocked the first time I said I wanted a "hoagie".
Da fuck is a gawdamn hoagie, kid?
I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston. I think in Faneuil Hall.
Quote from: Jacob on June 05, 2013, 04:19:54 PM
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I was shocked by the Sneakers-Tennis shoes.
I was taught to say Tennis shoes in Israel, but I learnt to say sneakers when I got to the States.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston. I think in Faneuil Hall.
:hmm: I have zero recollection of them being called that. I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.
Quote from: Caliga on June 05, 2013, 09:02:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston. I think in Faneuil Hall.
:hmm: I have zero recollection of them being called that. I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.
I don't know if you ever went there, but I believe Lake Williams Pizza called them that.
Actually quick google search shows that they most often appear in New England at pizza places.
Quote from: Caliga on June 05, 2013, 09:02:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston. I think in Faneuil Hall.
:hmm: I have zero recollection of them being called that. I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.
Where I grew up, grinders were also known as guinea grinders, and were hot Italian sausage sandwiches with red sauce, topped with cheese. It wasn't until I visited my mom's family in Rhode Island when I was 16 that I found out that a) "guinea" was considered rude; and b) grinders were also a kind of sub.
Guinea is considered rude?
Is it some sort of slur towards West Africans? :unsure:
'Guinea? I am from The Gambia you bastard!!11'
Quote from: Valmy on June 07, 2013, 09:09:03 AM
Guinea is considered rude?
Is it some sort of slur towards West Africans? :unsure:
'Guinea? I am from The Gambia you bastard!!11'
It's a rude term for Italians.
Edit:
Here's a link to a recipe for a Guinea Grinder, which is apparently an Iowa thing. http://amandascookin.com/2011/07/guinea-grinder-iowa-state-fair-food.html
And a link to the Urban Dictionary explaining why it's bad.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=guinea
Quote from: merithyn on June 07, 2013, 09:13:34 AM
It's a rude term for Italians.
Huh. Go figure. Like implying Sicilians are descended from n*****?
Edit: well sure enough.
Quote from: Valmy on June 07, 2013, 09:15:37 AM
Quote from: merithyn on June 07, 2013, 09:13:34 AM
It's a rude term for Italians.
Huh. Go figure. Like implying Sicilians are descended from n*****?
Yes, in a way. It was implying that Italians weren't white.
Quote from: PDH on June 05, 2013, 08:12:52 PM
I was born in Caramel, California.
Nice city. And it had Clint Eastwood as major.
Quote from: merithyn on June 07, 2013, 09:06:23 AM
Quote from: Caliga on June 05, 2013, 09:02:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston. I think in Faneuil Hall.
:hmm: I have zero recollection of them being called that. I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.
Where I grew up, grinders were also known as guinea grinders, and were hot Italian sausage sandwiches with red sauce, topped with cheese. It wasn't until I visited my mom's family in Rhode Island when I was 16 that I found out that a) "guinea" was considered rude; and b) grinders were also a kind of sub.
Where I grew up, grinders were something made by Black & Decker or Craftsman, not a restaurant.
Quote from: derspiess on June 05, 2013, 06:51:43 PM
The "carmel" pronunciation of the word "caramel" has always annoyed the piss out of me. My mom's family were repeat offenders. Always sounded lazy and provincial to me.
:yes: Especially since I lived in Carmel, NJ until a few years ago. Carmel != caramel.
What I find odd about all these is that with some words it is the south that has the more British pronounciation whilst on others it is the north. Not much consistency.
Quote from: Tyr on June 10, 2013, 12:30:06 AM
What I find odd about all these is that with some words it is the south that has the more British pronounciation whilst on others it is the north. Not much consistency.
It's a hodge-podge since the American Civil War. If you look, Southern New Jersey tends to be a pocket of Southern influence- after the ACW, there were a ton of transplants from Kentucky to New Jersey for some reason.
Quote from: merithyn on June 07, 2013, 09:13:34 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 07, 2013, 09:09:03 AM
Guinea is considered rude?
Is it some sort of slur towards West Africans? :unsure:
'Guinea? I am from The Gambia you bastard!!11'
It's a rude term for Italians.
Uh, no :huh: Never heard it as a slur. For American Italians, maybe.
L.
Quote from: Pedrito on June 10, 2013, 07:15:27 AM
Uh, no :huh: Never heard it as a slur. For American Italians, maybe.
L.
Since the term is essentially saying that Italians aren't white, I suppose it's up to you to decide if it's a slur for you or not. It most definitely was for American Italians at the turn of the century when so many immigrated, and for that reason, continues to be one.
By the way, just because you don't understand it doesn't mean that people aren't using it to be rude to you. ;)
Quote from: merithyn on June 07, 2013, 09:06:23 AM
Where I grew up, grinders were also known as guinea grinders, and were hot Italian sausage sandwiches with red sauce, topped with cheese.
:lol: That's awesome.
I don't care how many dago wop guinea greaseball goombahs come out of the woodwork.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 10, 2013, 11:06:10 AM
I don't care how many dago wop guinea greaseball goombahs come out of the woodwork.
:bleeding: