We received an application letter from a summer trainee candidate applying for our department.
One of the paragraphs states that he would be "honored to work with such notable and recognized lawyers as Ms. [My Boss] and Mr. [Martinus]". :lol:
Should we hire him or should this disqualify him? :P
I suppose you probably needed one after years of posting on Languish.
Hire a female instead.
Is he gay?
Quote from: Caliga on May 17, 2013, 06:45:11 AM
Is he gay?
No idea. In fact his Facebook profile is funny - all his interests, posts and everything in between is related to law - you cannot deduct anything about his likes, dislikes, political leanings, personal interests etc.
Well, you can deduct one thing - he only has two favorite books, "The Firm" and "Catcher in the Rye"* - so he is probably going to murder me and wear my skin.
*To the nitpicky grumblers out there - this is the only thing not related to law on his profile.
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 06:53:10 AM
so he is probably going to murder me and wear my skin.
I'm sure there'll be enough left over for a matching handbag, Chubbs.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2013, 06:55:37 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 06:53:10 AM
so he is probably going to murder me and wear my skin.
I'm sure there'll be enough left over for a matching handbag, Chubbs.
FU :lol:
Seriously though, Catcher in the Rye? DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER
I think this guy did a full profiling on Marty.
-caress Marty's ego
-then make sure his FB page looks like a serial killer's, so Marty gets all hot over the prospect of various torture and abuse he would have to endure from him
Genius.
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 06:53:10 AM... all his interests, posts and everything in between is related to law ...
:bleeding:
Quote from: Tamas on May 17, 2013, 07:29:54 AM
I think this guy did a full profiling on Marty.
-caress Marty's ego
-then make sure his FB page looks like a serial killer's, so Marty gets all hot over the prospect of various torture and abuse he would have to endure from him
Genius.
The guy is actually quite good looking. :unsure:
Inside the walls of my massive bureaucracy such things don't matter, but I understand in many of the more highly sought after private sector positions it's basically standard for the employer to check out your social networking sites. I'd imagine any half-smart young professional these days is going to carefully craft all of their social media presence to make them look like good job candidates, and basically suppress or hide anything else. Even relatively innocuous personal information could hurt you because you never know what hiring manager may take a dislike to someone over something random (maybe you like a book he hates or something.)
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 17, 2013, 08:07:42 AM
Inside the walls of my massive bureaucracy such things don't matter, but I understand in many of the more highly sought after private sector positions it's basically standard for the employer to check out your social networking sites. I'd imagine any half-smart young professional these days is going to carefully craft all of their social media presence to make them look like good job candidates, and basically suppress or hide anything else. Even relatively innocuous personal information could hurt you because you never know what hiring manager may take a dislike to someone over something random (maybe you like a book he hates or something.)
:yes:
Most of my job-seeking friends have two Facebooks. One for employers and family; one for everyone else.
They include family on the job-seeking one because that way they look like good, solid, family-oriented folks who are serious, studious, and yet loving and kind. *coughs*
Obviously his judgement is lacking and should not be hired :P
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 06:53:10 AM
Well, you can deduct one thing - he only has two favorite books, "The Firm" and "Catcher in the Rye"* - so he is probably going to murder me and wear my skin.
HIRE HIM.
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 06:15:54 AM
We received an application letter from a summer trainee candidate applying for our department.
One of the paragraphs states that he would be "honored to work with such notable and recognized lawyers as Ms. [My Boss] and Mr. [Martinus]". :lol:
Should we hire him or should this disqualify him? :P
:shrugs:
He does his research, that's all that means. Can't fault him for it, but he'll definitely be a syncophant once he's in the office. He says what he thinks will get him ahead, as is clear from this letter. If you want that, hire him.
Quote from: merithyn on May 17, 2013, 08:41:40 AM
Most of my job-seeking friends have two Facebooks. One for employers and family; one for everyone else.
They include family on the job-seeking one because that way they look like good, solid, family-oriented folks who are serious, studious, and yet loving and kind. *coughs*
What bullshit.
Quote from: merithyn on May 17, 2013, 08:41:40 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 17, 2013, 08:07:42 AM
Inside the walls of my massive bureaucracy such things don't matter, but I understand in many of the more highly sought after private sector positions it's basically standard for the employer to check out your social networking sites. I'd imagine any half-smart young professional these days is going to carefully craft all of their social media presence to make them look like good job candidates, and basically suppress or hide anything else. Even relatively innocuous personal information could hurt you because you never know what hiring manager may take a dislike to someone over something random (maybe you like a book he hates or something.)
:yes:
Most of my job-seeking friends have two Facebooks. One for employers and family; one for everyone else.
They include family on the job-seeking one because that way they look like good, solid, family-oriented folks who are serious, studious, and yet loving and kind. *coughs*
Hmm, why don't they just hide certain things from the public? Not that hard to manage.
Quote from: garbon on May 17, 2013, 09:15:53 AM
Hmm, why don't they just hide certain things from the public? Not that hard to manage.
Easier to just create a second page than to worry about what Facebook will do with the different privacy settings every month or so.
Quote from: merithyn on May 17, 2013, 09:19:28 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 17, 2013, 09:15:53 AM
Hmm, why don't they just hide certain things from the public? Not that hard to manage.
Easier to just create a second page than to worry about what Facebook will do with the different privacy settings every month or so.
What do they call their second page so they don't show up for employers?
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 06:15:54 AM
We received an application letter from a summer trainee candidate applying for our department.
One of the paragraphs states that he would be "honored to work with such notable and recognized lawyers as Ms. [My Boss] and Mr. [Martinus]". :lol:
Should we hire him or should this disqualify him? :P
He is a fawning toady. If he had known the name of the head of HR he would have included that as well. Hiring Yes-Men is the first step in the long rout to ruin.
Quote from: garbon on May 17, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: merithyn on May 17, 2013, 09:19:28 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 17, 2013, 09:15:53 AM
Hmm, why don't they just hide certain things from the public? Not that hard to manage.
Easier to just create a second page than to worry about what Facebook will do with the different privacy settings every month or so.
What do they call their second page so they don't show up for employers?
Nicknames of various sorts. It's kind of an "invite-only" kind of page. You have to know the name in order to friend them.
Meh. You can have privacy settings which won't let non-friends see shit.
Quote from: Viking on May 17, 2013, 09:36:11 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 06:15:54 AM
We received an application letter from a summer trainee candidate applying for our department.
One of the paragraphs states that he would be "honored to work with such notable and recognized lawyers as Ms. [My Boss] and Mr. [Martinus]". :lol:
Should we hire him or should this disqualify him? :P
He is a fawning toady. If he had known the name of the head of HR he would have included that as well. Hiring Yes-Men is the first step in the long rout to ruin.
Presuming that Marty and his boss aren't actual well-known and respected lawyers.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 17, 2013, 08:07:42 AM
Inside the walls of my massive bureaucracy such things don't matter, but I understand in many of the more highly sought after private sector positions it's basically standard for the employer to check out your social networking sites. I'd imagine any half-smart young professional these days is going to carefully craft all of their social media presence to make them look like good job candidates, and basically suppress or hide anything else. Even relatively innocuous personal information could hurt you because you never know what hiring manager may take a dislike to someone over something random (maybe you like a book he hates or something.)
But that makes you look like a boring robot so this works against you, too. It definitely put me off this guy.
Quote from: merithyn on May 17, 2013, 08:41:40 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 17, 2013, 08:07:42 AM
Inside the walls of my massive bureaucracy such things don't matter, but I understand in many of the more highly sought after private sector positions it's basically standard for the employer to check out your social networking sites. I'd imagine any half-smart young professional these days is going to carefully craft all of their social media presence to make them look like good job candidates, and basically suppress or hide anything else. Even relatively innocuous personal information could hurt you because you never know what hiring manager may take a dislike to someone over something random (maybe you like a book he hates or something.)
:yes:
Most of my job-seeking friends have two Facebooks. One for employers and family; one for everyone else.
They include family on the job-seeking one because that way they look like good, solid, family-oriented folks who are serious, studious, and yet loving and kind. *coughs*
That's what Linkedin is for.
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 09:48:40 AM
That's what Linkedin is for.
Yet you still went to his Facebook page.
Marti, if this is the first time a job applicant has said they want to work with you then you are not as old as you look. :P
Just what Marti needs: an ego boost.
Quote from: fahdiz on May 17, 2013, 11:10:49 AM
Just what Marti needs: an ego boost.
I have a theory that Marty's dysfunctional behavior on Languish is a result of his self-loathing.
Quote from: Tamas on May 17, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
Meh. You can have privacy settings which won't let non-friends see shit.
You think friends won't squeal on you to increase shareholder value?
Quote from: The Brain on May 17, 2013, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 17, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
Meh. You can have privacy settings which won't let non-friends see shit.
You think friends won't squeal on you to increase shareholder value?
:lol:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 17, 2013, 11:46:05 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on May 17, 2013, 11:10:49 AM
Just what Marti needs: an ego boost.
I have a theory that Marty's dysfunctional behavior on Languish is a result of his self-loathing.
Maybe not self-loathing, but at least hyper-insecurity.
Quote from: fahdiz on May 17, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 17, 2013, 11:46:05 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on May 17, 2013, 11:10:49 AM
Just what Marti needs: an ego boost.
I have a theory that Marty's dysfunctional behavior on Languish is a result of his self-loathing.
Maybe not self-loathing, but at least hyper-insecurity.
Could the two not be connected?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 17, 2013, 09:39:36 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 17, 2013, 09:36:11 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 06:15:54 AM
We received an application letter from a summer trainee candidate applying for our department.
One of the paragraphs states that he would be "honored to work with such notable and recognized lawyers as Ms. [My Boss] and Mr. [Martinus]". :lol:
Should we hire him or should this disqualify him? :P
He is a fawning toady. If he had known the name of the head of HR he would have included that as well. Hiring Yes-Men is the first step in the long rout to ruin.
Presuming that Marty and his boss aren't actual well-known and respected lawyers.
:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:
OhMyyy that just hit the spot.
Fireblade's rumour has me believe that Marty earns TONS of money especially by polish standards. So he must be good at something, and he does have my respect for that.
Quote from: Tamas on May 17, 2013, 02:16:14 PM
Fireblade's rumour has me believe that Marty earns TONS of money especially by polish standards. So he must be good at something, and he does have my respect for that.
A king of turds is still fecal matter at heart.
Quote from: The Brain on May 17, 2013, 02:17:39 PM
Quote from: Tamas on May 17, 2013, 02:16:14 PM
Fireblade's rumour has me believe that Marty earns TONS of money especially by polish standards. So he must be good at something, and he does have my respect for that.
A king of turds is still fecal matter at heart.
That was mean. :(
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 17, 2013, 02:17:39 PM
Quote from: Tamas on May 17, 2013, 02:16:14 PM
Fireblade's rumour has me believe that Marty earns TONS of money especially by polish standards. So he must be good at something, and he does have my respect for that.
A king of turds is still fecal matter at heart.
That was mean. :(
Relax, I don't think you're on the same level as turds.
:lol:
Quote from: merithyn on May 17, 2013, 09:52:03 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 09:48:40 AM
That's what Linkedin is for.
Yet you still went to his Facebook page.
But more out of human curiosity. If he had some ridiculous pictures or liked right wing politicians, I wouldn't use it against him in the hiring process. But I wanted to find out more about him - and I did not find anything of substance - just an empty suit. So as far as I am concerned, this is the worst he could have presented himself.
It just may mean he is private and not an attention whore.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 17, 2013, 08:07:42 AM
Inside the walls of my massive bureaucracy such things don't matter, but I understand in many of the more highly sought after private sector positions it's basically standard for the employer to check out your social networking sites. I'd imagine any half-smart young professional these days is going to carefully craft all of their social media presence to make them look like good job candidates, and basically suppress or hide anything else. Even relatively innocuous personal information could hurt you because you never know what hiring manager may take a dislike to someone over something random (maybe you like a book he hates or something.)
Our HR people check Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and I think they may do Google searches on the candidate's name as well... all of this in addition to the usual background (criminal and credit) checks.
Lots of white people show up if you google my name. -_-
Quote from: Caliga on May 17, 2013, 03:07:04 PM
Our HR people check Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and I think they may do Google searches on the candidate's name as well... all of this in addition to the usual background (criminal and credit) checks.
I am curious. What does HR do if a person has no facebook or any of those other things?
Quote from: Caliga on May 17, 2013, 03:07:04 PM
Our HR people check Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and I think they may do Google searches on the candidate's name as well... all of this in addition to the usual background (criminal and credit) checks.
It's actually a shame that social media has become so prevalent that if you say you don't have any, you get the same :yeahright: look you'd get when you told a potential employer that you've never taken illicit drugs.
Quote from: fahdiz on May 17, 2013, 03:04:17 PM
It just may mean he is private and not an attention whore.
He has a blog and post daily on his Facebook... About law.
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on May 17, 2013, 03:04:17 PM
It just may mean he is private and not an attention whore.
He has a blog and post daily on his Facebook... About law.
Yeah, I can see why you would reject this guy.
He would take your job one day.
:rolleyes:
And yet he thinks I'm a preeminent laywer it would be an honor to work with. So is he brilliant or just a clueless schmoozer?
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
:rolleyes:
And yet he thinks I'm a preeminent laywer it would be an honor to work with. So is he brilliant or just a clueless schmoozer?
:lol:
Through your vanity you cannot detect that someone has a form letter that says "It would be an honour to work with [fill in the blank]" and you just happen to be the blank in this case.
I know that - and this makes him an idiot because everyone knows that.
It's you, fahdiz and merri who are trying to cast him in a good light despite the fact that he makes me sick, as I said from the very first post.
He's trying, dude. Cut him some slack, nigga's trying to get a job.
He sounds enthusiastic. :)
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 03:35:57 PM
I know that - and this makes him an idiot because everyone knows that.
It's you, fahdiz and merri who are trying to cast him in a good light despite the fact that he makes me sick, as I said from the very first post.
He makes you sick because he blogs about the law? He is applying for a legal position right?
Yeah, well perhaps, CC just rubs me the wrong way (as always). But I do dislike people like this - I prefer to hire more modest/introvert people. Perhaps it's a cultural thing - but in Poland behaving like this guy makes you an asshole.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 17, 2013, 03:45:34 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 03:35:57 PM
I know that - and this makes him an idiot because everyone knows that.
It's you, fahdiz and merri who are trying to cast him in a good light despite the fact that he makes me sick, as I said from the very first post.
He makes you sick because he blogs about the law? He is applying for a legal position right?
I prefer well rounded quirky people to corporate clones.
Don't hire him. He sounds like at best a robot and at worst an annoying go-getter.
Besides, he really overshot the mark, as neither my boss nor I are tasked with hiring summer trainees - this is handled by a couple of associates. Sure, both my boss or I could intervene to have the guy hired, but now obviously even if we wanted, we wouldn't do it, because it would make it look as if his flattery worked. And the associates who are going to interview him are probably going to be jealous/annoyed by his brown nosing.
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 03:57:12 PM
Besides, he really overshot the mark, as neither my boss nor I are tasked with hiring summer trainees - this is handled by a couple of associates. Sure, both my boss or I could intervene to have the guy hired, but now obviously even if we wanted, we wouldn't do it, because it would make it look as if his flattery worked. And the associates who are going to interview him are probably going to be jealous/annoyed by his brown nosing.
Why would that be horrible? :huh:
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 03:57:12 PM
Sure, both my boss or I could intervene to have the guy hired, but now obviously even if we wanted, we wouldn't do it, because it would make it look as if his flattery worked. And the associates who are going to interview him are probably going to be jealous/annoyed by his brown nosing.
You haven't even met him.
Really should change the name of the thread to "LOL I got an ego boost, but being a condescending dickhead for fun is an even bigger one"
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2013, 04:04:29 PM
Really should change the name of the thread to "LOL I got an ego boost, but being a condescending dickhead for fun is an even bigger one"
:D
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2013, 04:04:29 PM
Really should change the name of the thread to "LOL I got an ego boost, but being a condescending dickhead for fun is an even bigger one"
:yes:
you have the power :contract:
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 03:46:49 PM
Yeah, well perhaps, CC just rubs me the wrong way (as always). But I do dislike people like this - I prefer to hire more modest/introvert people. Perhaps it's a cultural thing - but in Poland behaving like this guy makes you an asshole.
Modest, introverted people don't put their lives up on Facebook.
Or become laywers at big firms.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 17, 2013, 05:16:11 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 17, 2013, 03:46:49 PM
Yeah, well perhaps, CC just rubs me the wrong way (as always). But I do dislike people like this - I prefer to hire more modest/introvert people. Perhaps it's a cultural thing - but in Poland behaving like this guy makes you an asshole.
Modest, introverted people don't put their lives up on Facebook.
I don't think that's true.
Okay, assume I put in the right qualifiers, most, less likely, etc.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 17, 2013, 05:21:51 PM
Or become laywers at big firms.
Most lawyers at big firms are not the larger than life litigator types. They are mainly the bookish solicitor types who enjoy drafting a good clause or two.
Quote from: garbon on May 17, 2013, 03:09:49 PM
Lots of white people show up if you google my name. -_-
Google my name and you mostly get one black guy. :sleep:
Really, what kind of name is "Kyle" for a brother? :P
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 17, 2013, 07:08:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 17, 2013, 05:21:51 PM
Or become laywers at big firms.
Most lawyers at big firms are not the larger than life litigator types. They are mainly the bookish solicitor types who enjoy drafting a good clause or two.
You nailed us litigators. -_-
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2013, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 17, 2013, 03:07:04 PM
Our HR people check Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and I think they may do Google searches on the candidate's name as well... all of this in addition to the usual background (criminal and credit) checks.
It's actually a shame that social media has become so prevalent that if you say you don't have any, you get the same :yeahright: look you'd get when you told a potential employer that you've never taken illicit drugs.
Yeah, I know. I just don't have a use for it. No people that I particularly like, other than my family and people that I have sex with = no Facebook. What's so hard to understand about that?
Why would it disqualify him?
Best case he's honest and does respect you.
Worst case he's done his research.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 17, 2013, 07:08:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 17, 2013, 05:21:51 PM
Or become laywers at big firms.
Most lawyers at big firms are not the larger than life litigator types. They are mainly the bookish solicitor types who enjoy drafting a good clause or two.
You don't make big money without tooting your own horn.
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 17, 2013, 10:02:22 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 17, 2013, 03:09:49 PM
Lots of white people show up if you google my name. -_-
Google my name and you mostly get one black guy. :sleep:
I get... me. And a movie I was in.
Was Katmai the director?
I'm always worried I'll be that poor other "Sarah Conner" that gets killed by the Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 :(
Quote from: katmai on May 18, 2013, 01:46:11 AM
I'm always worried I'll be that poor other "Sarah Conner" that gets killed by the Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 :(
I'm always worried when I get a courier delivery through Skynet (http://www.skynet.net/). :ph34r:
I don't have shit other than a basic Facebook page that I never visit. Google my name and you get some old British dude's wikipedia page (some guy who was into studying old Greek coins), a black Democratic politician, and my dad for the top results.
E: Er, I guess I should use what I go by. Some old timey actor, a photographer, and a wikipedia page with a bunch of entries for the same name (soccer player, poet, journalist, etc). I'm not on the radar anywhere. Seems to be a good thing.
Quote from: katmai on May 18, 2013, 01:46:11 AM
I'm always worried I'll be that poor other "Sarah Conner" that gets killed by the Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 :(
And your plastic truck gets run over, too.
I don't come up at all in a Google search of my proper name, or the name I go by.
The best part is there is a mugshot of someone with my proper name, but it isn't mine.
EDIT: A Google Image search of my name brings a lot of images of something called Girls and Corpses. :hmm:
What disturbs me with googling my name is there is some guy with all the typical stupid kid photos- him drunk, half naked, etc.... and he went to the same university I did.
Hope I'm not being marked down as being that cunt <_<
As I remember posting elsewhere I've been told the old advice about being ungooglable is not a good thing at all.
Back in my high school days, I created a website devoted to illicit glorious days, and years later I occasionally get messages from girls to scrub their names from the pages. I comply, but it amuses me that my ownership/engineering of the illicit activities has not prevented me from having high access in U.S. Government and NATO. Are these girls overreacting? :lol:
Quote from: Phillip V on May 19, 2013, 02:39:08 AM
Back in my high school days, I created a website devoted to illicit glorious days, and years later I occasionally get messages from girls to scrub their names from the pages. I comply, but it amuses me that my ownership/engineering of the illicit activities has not prevented me from having high access in U.S. Government and NATO. Are these girls overreacting? :lol:
The difference is that you were probably properly vetted before getting access. A "proper" appraisal of a person would not freakout over minor high-jinks back in school days. However, if one is applying for a pissy little job in retail then online revelations about lively school days might well queer your pitch, "oh, my! The person applying for this pathetic little job isn't perfect!!!".
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 19, 2013, 03:56:30 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 19, 2013, 02:39:08 AM
Back in my high school days, I created a website devoted to illicit glorious days, and years later I occasionally get messages from girls to scrub their names from the pages. I comply, but it amuses me that my ownership/engineering of the illicit activities has not prevented me from having high access in U.S. Government and NATO. Are these girls overreacting? :lol:
The difference is that you were probably properly vetted before getting access. A "proper" appraisal of a person would not freakout over minor high-jinks back in school days. However, if one is applying for a pissy little job in retail then online revelations about lively school days might well queer your pitch, "oh, my! The person applying for this pathetic little job isn't perfect!!!".
Yeah. I wonder if/when we will eventually get to the critical mass/breaking point, where EVERYONE will have a leaked sex tape/drunk/naked photos on the internet and people would stop caring.
To me, a person who seems like they do not have any embarrassing or quirky things about him must be hiding something really really freaky/disturbing - because only if you are a pedophile or a serial killer, you would have gone to such a great lengths to hide your true self.
Quote from: Tyr on May 19, 2013, 02:34:35 AM
As I remember posting elsewhere I've been told the old advice about being ungooglable is not a good thing at all.
I'm ungooglable. :ph34r:
Quote from: Martinus on May 19, 2013, 04:39:00 AM
To me, a person who seems like they do not have any embarrassing or quirky things about him must be hiding something really really freaky/disturbing - because only if you are a pedophile or a serial killer, you would have gone to such a great lengths to hide your true self.
Well you're an idiot. :P
Quote from: Razgovory on May 18, 2013, 01:36:53 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 17, 2013, 07:08:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 17, 2013, 05:21:51 PM
Or become laywers at big firms.
Most lawyers at big firms are not the larger than life litigator types. They are mainly the bookish solicitor types who enjoy drafting a good clause or two.
You don't make big money without tooting your own horn.
Perhaps that is true of horn manufacturers.