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Title: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Siege on May 21, 2009, 09:49:57 PM
So, I just came back from Terminator Salvation, and it sucks.

The Ahnold scene was a complete turn off.
The effects were too CG. Not credible.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Siege on May 21, 2009, 09:52:59 PM
The good thing was that many scenes were straight from the original trilogy.
The jeep, the fight in the terminator factory, Ahnold melted and frozen, many shots were even in the same angles they used for similar shots in the originals, making this movie feel as an integral part of the terminator world.


Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Neil on May 21, 2009, 09:57:09 PM
Don't be so mean to Tim.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Razgovory on May 21, 2009, 10:04:35 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 21, 2009, 09:49:57 PM


The Ahnold scene was a complete turn off.


Well Ahnold isn't a 14 year old girl so I don't know what to say. 
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 21, 2009, 10:08:46 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 21, 2009, 09:57:09 PM
Don't be so mean to Tim.
I'll still see it. I had planned to do it tonight, but changed me mind. I'll try for a matinee.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Slargos on May 21, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
ehrwut?

Another one?

How the hell did this slip under my radar?  :Embarrass:
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 21, 2009, 10:37:38 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
ehrwut?

Another one?

How the hell did this slip under my radar?  :Embarrass:
Don't know.

http://terminatorsalvation.warnerbros.com/
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: grumbler on May 21, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
ehrwut?

Another one?

How the hell did this slip under my radar?  :Embarrass:
There were only 2 Terminator movies, just like there were only 2 Alien movies.  Anyone who says different lies.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: garbon on May 21, 2009, 11:28:17 PM
Newt. :wub:
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Syt on May 21, 2009, 11:38:22 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
ehrwut?

Another one?

How the hell did this slip under my radar?  :Embarrass:

I didn't know about it till I read a post on Wargamer that the tie in game for PC can't be installed because they fucked up the installer in the production process. I honestly thought this would be game only, though, till I checked their webpage.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 21, 2009, 11:41:01 PM
I didn't know about it until I was watching Terminator III and the director of IV was emceeing it.

Director looks like he belongs on Queer Eye.  Not all giggly and floppy, just the look.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Slargos on May 22, 2009, 12:08:22 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
ehrwut?

Another one?

How the hell did this slip under my radar?  :Embarrass:
There were only 2 Terminator movies, just like there were only 2 Alien movies.  Anyone who says different lies.

:lol:

What about Aliens vs Predator?  :P
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Syt on May 22, 2009, 12:09:15 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
ehrwut?

Another one?

How the hell did this slip under my radar?  :Embarrass:
There were only 2 Terminator movies, just like there were only 2 Alien movies.  Anyone who says different lies.
Alien 3 could have been good. The setting and atmosphere were ok, but the story totally sucked.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Tonitrus on May 22, 2009, 12:42:53 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
ehrwut?

Another one?

How the hell did this slip under my radar?  :Embarrass:
There were only 2 Terminator movies, just like there were only 2 Alien movies.  Anyone who says different lies.

Indeed, along with only one Highlander movie.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: The Brain on May 22, 2009, 03:57:42 AM
T2 sucked ass.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Viking on May 22, 2009, 04:11:59 AM
This thread is cool, here there is no such thing as The Phantom Menace, The Attack of the Clones or The Rise of the Sith.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Josquius on May 22, 2009, 04:49:57 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
ehrwut?

Another one?

How the hell did this slip under my radar?  :Embarrass:
There were only 2 Terminator movies, just like there were only 2 Alien movies.  Anyone who says different lies.

3 did suck big style but Resurrection wasn't too bad. I quite enjoyed seeing the aliens redone with flashy modern effects.


Quote
Indeed, along with only one Highlander movie.
Just...WTF were they thinking :bleeding:
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: The Brain on May 22, 2009, 04:52:05 AM
Resurrection was horrible. Cartoonish, and not in a good way either. Fucking Frenchies.

Even the shoplifter couldn't save that mess.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 22, 2009, 06:18:56 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
ehrwut?

Another one?

How the hell did this slip under my radar?  :Embarrass:
There were only 2 Terminator movies, just like there were only 2 Alien movies.  Anyone who says different lies.
There were also only two Highlander movies, and, only 3 Star Trek movies.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Ape on May 22, 2009, 06:30:13 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 22, 2009, 06:18:56 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
ehrwut?

Another one?

How the hell did this slip under my radar?  :Embarrass:
There were only 2 Terminator movies, just like there were only 2 Alien movies.  Anyone who says different lies.
There were also only two Highlander movies, and, only 3 Star Trek movies.
and only three star wars movies
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Grey Fox on May 22, 2009, 06:31:16 AM
Star Wars doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Caliga on May 22, 2009, 06:37:41 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 21, 2009, 10:08:46 PM
I'll still see it. I had planned to do it tonight, but changed me mind. I'll try for a matinee.
:huh: Why do people insist on seeing a movie just because of the fact that it's a "Terminator" movie?

It reminds me of the NMA pieces of shit who hate Fallout 3 just because it's a "Fallout" game not done in ancient isometric style by the original designers.

I guarantee you that if Fallout 3 was the same exact game, but called "Nuclear Wasteland", those same losers would be all over it.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 22, 2009, 06:43:27 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 22, 2009, 06:31:16 AM
Star Wars doesn't exist.
Quebec doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 22, 2009, 06:43:57 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2009, 11:28:17 PM
Newt. :wub:
To be honest I expected this from Siege. 
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:21:35 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 21, 2009, 11:41:01 PM
I didn't know about it until I was watching Terminator III and the director of IV was emceeing it.

Director looks like he belongs on Queer Eye.  Not all giggly and floppy, just the look.
Do you not watch TV? At least in America the trailers have been airing nonstop for a month.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:26:25 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 22, 2009, 06:37:41 AM

:huh: Why do people insist on seeing a movie just because of the fact that it's a "Terminator" movie?

It reminds me of the NMA pieces of shit who hate Fallout 3 just because it's a "Fallout" game not done in ancient isometric style by the original designers.

I guarantee you that if Fallout 3 was the same exact game, but called "Nuclear Wasteland", those same losers would be all over it.
Because I love the Terminator story? Not hard Caliga. I'll probably like this one too no matter what the critics say.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Caliga on May 22, 2009, 07:27:52 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:26:25 AM
Because I love the Terminator story? Not hard Caliga. I'll probably like this one too no matter what the critics say.

I get that, but you can enjoy the Terminator story by watching "The Terminator", or "Terminator 2" (except you can't possibly enjoy any moments in which Edward Furlong is 'acting' :bleeding: ).
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Neil on May 22, 2009, 07:36:44 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 22, 2009, 07:27:52 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:26:25 AM
Because I love the Terminator story? Not hard Caliga. I'll probably like this one too no matter what the critics say.

I get that, but you can enjoy the Terminator story by watching "The Terminator", or "Terminator 2" (except you can't possibly enjoy any moments in which Edward Furlong is 'acting' :bleeding: ).
Dude, he's just a kid.  Chill out.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Caliga on May 22, 2009, 07:40:40 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 22, 2009, 07:36:44 AM
Dude, he's just a kid.  Chill out.

Tim?  Uh he's in his mid-twenties.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:42:01 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 22, 2009, 07:40:40 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 22, 2009, 07:36:44 AM
Dude, he's just a kid.  Chill out.

Tim?  Uh he's in his mid-twenties.
Furlong.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Caliga on May 22, 2009, 07:42:48 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:42:01 AM
Furlong.

I thought he mighta meant that... but there have been plenty of great kid actors.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 22, 2009, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 22, 2009, 07:42:48 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:42:01 AM
Furlong.

I thought he mighta meant that... but there have been plenty of great kid actors.
David Spade was a great child actor for decades. And Immanuel Lewis?  Webster was the bomb.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Caliga on May 22, 2009, 10:42:41 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 22, 2009, 10:41:09 AM
David Spade was a great child actor for decades. And ImmanuelEmmanuel Lewis?  Webster was the bomb.

:mad:
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 11:23:35 AM
The Providence Journal gave it 4 stars and I usually agree with him! :w00t:
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 22, 2009, 11:24:04 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 22, 2009, 10:42:41 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 22, 2009, 10:41:09 AM
David Spade was a great child actor for decades. And ImmanuelEmmanuel Lewis?  Webster was the bomb.

:mad:
Whatever. 
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Siege on May 22, 2009, 01:29:26 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 11:23:35 AM
The Providence Journal gave it 4 stars and I usually agree with him! :w00t:

Did you watch it already?

I think you are slacking.

Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 22, 2009, 01:36:34 PM
Hey Seeb, is Mariah Carey big in Israel?
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Siege on May 22, 2009, 01:47:42 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 22, 2009, 01:36:34 PM
Hey Seeb, is Mariah Carey big in Israel?

She is big, but I don't know how big.
It ain't my scene, and I left Eretz back in 1995.
I know she still plays in the radio.
Back in the day galgalatz used to play her shit all the time.

Why do you ask?

Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Malthus on May 22, 2009, 01:55:49 PM
Rottentomatoes has it at 33%. Not hopeful.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 22, 2009, 01:56:16 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 22, 2009, 01:47:42 PM
Why do you ask?
Zohan!!

How about that yellow drink?  What's the deal on that?
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Siege on May 22, 2009, 02:16:43 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 22, 2009, 01:56:16 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 22, 2009, 01:47:42 PM
Why do you ask?
Zohan!!

How about that yellow drink?  What's the deal on that?


Was it an alcoholic drink?
Yellow drinks that I can think of would be some sort of mashkeh toseis with vodka.

I don't remember that movie that well, because I didn't like it, but I'm pretty sure coca cola still the most popular drink in Israel.


Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 22, 2009, 02:19:41 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 22, 2009, 02:16:43 PM
Was it an alcoholic drink?
Yellow drinks that I can think of would be some sort of mashkeh toseis with vodka.

I don't remember that movie that well, because I didn't like it, but I'm pretty sure coca cola still the most popular drink in Israel.
Bubble Fizz or something equally retarded.  The movie made it seem like an Arab drink that Israelis liked too.  Or vice versa.  As in: OMG we both eat lots of Humus!  OMG we both like Bubble Fizz!
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Siege on May 22, 2009, 02:27:28 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 22, 2009, 02:19:41 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 22, 2009, 02:16:43 PM
Was it an alcoholic drink?
Yellow drinks that I can think of would be some sort of mashkeh toseis with vodka.

I don't remember that movie that well, because I didn't like it, but I'm pretty sure coca cola still the most popular drink in Israel.
Bubble Fizz or something equally retarded.  The movie made it seem like an Arab drink that Israelis liked too.  Or vice versa.  As in: OMG we both eat lots of Humus!  OMG we both like Bubble Fizz!

I don't know any drink by that name.
If the islamotards drunk it, I assume it was non-alcoholic, probably a soft drink.
There are lots of soft drinks in israel, and a couple are yellow, but there isn't an all yizrel drink that everybody loves.
No such a thing as a "typical" israeli soft drink.
If anything, israelis love coca cola.

Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: The Brain on May 22, 2009, 02:29:04 PM
Or rather Kosher Cola.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 02:55:51 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 11:23:35 AM
The Providence Journal gave it 4 stars and I usually agree with him! :w00t:

it must be nice not to have to think and to rely on others for every single opinion.

anyhow, your treasured RT only gives T4 34%
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 02:55:51 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 11:23:35 AM
The Providence Journal gave it 4 stars and I usually agree with him! :w00t:

it must be nice not to have to think and to rely on others for every single opinion.

anyhow, your treasured RT only gives T4 34%
:huh: You don't what you're talking about. Our tastes merely coincide most of the time. So if I know he liked a movie there's a good chance I'll like a movie.

Anyways I often don't agree with the majority of the critics so that doesn't bother me. I only reference them when they back me up.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 03:24:40 PM
proof is needed.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Savonarola on May 22, 2009, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 03:24:40 PM
proof is needed.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F5%2F5b%2FProof.jpg&hash=c27b134492b14a9e9343e6d1fecb5ad2c83f67e5)
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 03:24:40 PM
proof is needed.
I don't see how I can win. If I like T4 I'll have bucked Rotten Tomatoes but you can say I'm parroting my hometown critic. If I don't like it you'll say I'm parroting Rotten Tomatoes.

You want me to go typing random movies in at Rotten Tomatoes and see how my perception matches up with the critics?
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Neil on May 22, 2009, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 22, 2009, 01:55:49 PM
Rottentomatoes has it at 33%. Not hopeful.
Using Rottentomatoes?  I'm going to have your last name changed to Ortiz.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Malthus on May 22, 2009, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 22, 2009, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 22, 2009, 01:55:49 PM
Rottentomatoes has it at 33%. Not hopeful.
Using Rottentomatoes?  I'm going to have your last name changed to Ortiz.

Why not? Gives a good indication. May not be accurate of course.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Barrister on May 22, 2009, 04:54:42 PM
rottentomatoes is not a half-bad way to assess popular movies. 
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Ed Anger on May 22, 2009, 04:54:48 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 22, 2009, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 22, 2009, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 22, 2009, 01:55:49 PM
Rottentomatoes has it at 33%. Not hopeful.
Using Rottentomatoes?  I'm going to have your last name changed to Ortiz.

Why not? Gives a good indication. May not be accurate of course.

Only Timmays and their ilk use Rotten Tomatoes to validate their shitty movies.

Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Malthus on May 22, 2009, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 22, 2009, 04:54:48 PM


Only Timmays and their ilk use Rotten Tomatoes to validate their shitty movies.

But I'm not "validating" the movie - I'm pointing out that chances are it sucks.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Neil on May 22, 2009, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 22, 2009, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 22, 2009, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 22, 2009, 01:55:49 PM
Rottentomatoes has it at 33%. Not hopeful.
Using Rottentomatoes?  I'm going to have your last name changed to Ortiz.

Why not? Gives a good indication. May not be accurate of course.
Unfortunately for you, Tim tainted the site during the King Kong affair. :(
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Ed Anger on May 22, 2009, 05:06:42 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 22, 2009, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 22, 2009, 04:54:48 PM


Only Timmays and their ilk use Rotten Tomatoes to validate their shitty movies.

But I'm not "validating" the movie - I'm pointing out that chances are it sucks.

STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 03:24:40 PM
proof is needed.
I don't see how I can win. If I like T4 I'll have bucked Rotten Tomatoes but you can say I'm parroting my hometown critic. If I don't like it you'll say I'm parroting Rotten Tomatoes.

You want me to go typing random movies in at Rotten Tomatoes and see how my perception matches up with the critics?

neither. just develop your own critical capabilities and apply them.

you have like 100 posts a day. eventually, you'll show signs of original, creative thought.
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: garbon on May 22, 2009, 07:54:40 PM
while it might be fun to exaggerate, it's also intellectually dishonest
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Savonarola on May 22, 2009, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on May 22, 2009, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 03:24:40 PM
proof is needed.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F5%2F5b%2FProof.jpg&hash=c27b134492b14a9e9343e6d1fecb5ad2c83f67e5)

I provided Proof and it was ignored.   :(
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Syt on May 22, 2009, 11:53:35 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 03:24:40 PM
proof is needed.
I don't see how I can win. If I like T4 I'll have bucked Rotten Tomatoes but you can say I'm parroting my hometown critic. If I don't like it you'll say I'm parroting Rotten Tomatoes.

But ... but ... that's how internet debate works. :unsure:
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 23, 2009, 01:14:28 AM
Quote from: Savonarola on May 22, 2009, 10:37:25 PM
I provided Proof and it was ignored.   :(

:lol:


I don't see the big deal about Tim liking King Kong btw. It was uninspired but not particularly "bad."
Title: Re: Terminator 4 sucks
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 23, 2009, 01:56:42 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 22, 2009, 07:49:57 PM
neither. just develop your own critical capabilities and apply them.

you have like 100 posts a day. eventually, you'll show signs of original, creative thought.
There's the key to Tim's success.  Now the question is what's the key to you not being a douchebag any more.