http://fox40.com/2013/03/04/gay-couple-asked-to-leave-mall-for-holding-hands-kissing/
QuoteSmooching and holding hands may not seem like a big deal, but two men were asked to leave the Westfield Galleria in Roseville, Calif. Saturday for doing just that.
"I kissed him on the cheek. That's how my boyfriend and I show affection," said Daniel Chesmore.
Sitting on the couch at 21-year-old Chesmore's parents' home in Roseville, he and his boyfriend Jose Guzman, 24, share a few kisses while holding hands.
"This is exactly what we did at the mall on Saturday," Guzman said.
When a security guard confronted the couple about it at the Galleria, they began recording.
"If you continue to kiss, you will be asked to leave the mall. Period," the voice on the recording said. "I counted you guys kissing 25 times. I told you before, we contact any couple [...] about this."
In an undercover investigation, FOX40 spotted dozens of straight couples sitting inside of the Galleria, holding hands and smooching, right out in the open. And as the hours passed, not one couple FOX40 witnessed was asked to leave the mall.
"In a perfect world, there would be no difference in treatment between straight couples and gay couples," Chesmore said.
Galleria General Manager Eddie Ollmann would not comment in person, but released this written statement, "Persons that violate the Code of Conduct are asked to leave the property."
FOX40 found nothing in the mall's code of conduct about public displays of affection.
"It makes me feel like no matter what I do in society, I will always be different." Chesmore says.
Both he and his boyfriend are tutors in an elementary school in Oakland. Chesmore, a student at U.C. Berkeley and Guzman, a Berkeley graduate. The couple told FOX40 they rarely ever kiss on the lips in public to be considerate to children.
"I feel like we're always treated differently because we're gay. It makes me sad." Guzman said.
America will eventually join the civilized world.
edit: hopefully before Poland.
QuoteThe couple told FOX40 they rarely ever kiss on the lips in public to be considerate to children.
If only everybody were this courteous, not just those two gays.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 05, 2013, 06:17:48 PM
QuoteThe couple told FOX40 they rarely ever kiss on the lips in public to be considerate to children.
If only everybody were this courteous, not just those two gays.
I copulate on the tables in the food court.
Your wife must be allergic to you, since she always breaks out in children.
They have a topical cream for that.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 05, 2013, 06:17:48 PM
QuoteThe couple told FOX40 they rarely ever kiss on the lips in public to be considerate to children.
If only everybody were this courteous, not just those two gays.
Yeah, I'm always so fucking thrilled to see some goddamn mall rats tongue wrestling.
Quote from: Razgovory on March 05, 2013, 06:26:59 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 05, 2013, 06:17:48 PM
QuoteThe couple told FOX40 they rarely ever kiss on the lips in public to be considerate to children.
If only everybody were this courteous, not just those two gays.
Yeah, I'm always so fucking thrilled to see some goddamn mall rats tongue wrestling.
I'll leave Hot topic then, just to avoid you prudes. :mad:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 05, 2013, 06:17:48 PM
QuoteThe couple told FOX40 they rarely ever kiss on the lips in public to be considerate to children.
If only everybody were this courteous, not just those two gays.
Indeed, that's what I find off putting, gay or straight, people making out in public, it seems inconsiderate to some around them.
Now in this instance the guys sound fine and I don't see a problem with an occasional kiss on the lips, straight or gay couple.
In short, I guess I only object to people making a spectacle of themselves by making out/ 'this is a prelude to sex and we're doing it in public , look at us' type thing.
Gays are bad.
Something similar happened in London. A pub kicked out a gay couple for kissing (full on) and a straight couple for complaining about it. Amazingly the pub was in Soho :blink:
The next day there was a kiss-in of lots of gays and straights outside (the pub closed). Since then everyone I know's boycotted it because they've not even apologised yet. As far as I can tell they now survive on tourists.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone sucking face in a mall.
I got a blowjob in the mall parking lot a few months back. Does that count?
Quote from: Ideologue on March 05, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
I got a blowjob in the mall parking lot a few months back. Does that count?
While eating chick-fil-a.
No, gross.
Chesmore? Guzman? Its not enough they do the gay-gay but they go and do it inter-racially too. For shame! :yucky:
Quote from: Tyr on March 05, 2013, 09:54:05 PM
Chesmore? Guzman? Its not enough they do the gay-gay but they go and do it inter-racially too. For shame! :yucky:
So funny! :unsure:
The blood must be kept pure!
Speaking of which, in a recent debate about civil unions for gay couples in Poland, one of the conservative Christian MPs raised an old-time-favourite argument that legalizing gay unions will lead to such evils as gay marriage and gay couples adopting children (sic!).
Fun fact: he is an African immigrant married to a white woman. He was told to watch the congressional debate on "Lincoln". :P
So it's not just Martinus that thinks that movies are a real source? It's a Polish thing?
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 03:17:14 AM
Speaking of which, in a recent debate about civil unions for gay couples in Poland, one of the conservative Christian MPs raised an old-time-favourite argument that legalizing gay unions will lead to such evils as gay marriage and gay couples adopting children (sic!).
Fun fact: he is an African immigrant married to a white woman. He was told to watch the congressional debate on "Lincoln". :P
I don't quite get the point. It seems a bit like a non-sequitur to me :mellow:
There is a slippery slope argument used there that if slavery is abolished it will lead to negroes marrying white women.
Quote from: Neil on March 06, 2013, 08:34:13 AM
So it's not just Martinus that thinks that movies are a real source? It's a Polish thing?
:lol:
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 08:45:49 AM
There is a slippery slope argument used there that if slavery is abolished it will lead to negroes marrying white women.
Oh ok. It did. Gay civil unions will lead to gay marriage and gay adoption. He's entirely right.
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 03:17:14 AM
Speaking of which, in a recent debate about civil unions for gay couples in Poland, one of the conservative Christian MPs raised an old-time-favourite argument that legalizing gay unions will lead to such evils as gay marriage and gay couples adopting children (sic!).
Fun fact: he is an African immigrant married to a white woman. He was told to watch the congressional debate on "Lincoln". :P
If one believes that gay marriage and gay adoption are "evil" then he is quite right to point out that legalizing gay unions will inevitably lead to such things. His conclusion is not illogical. Your point should probably have been that it is perfectly fine for there to be gay marriage and gay adoption.
Quote from: Neil on March 06, 2013, 08:34:13 AM
So it's not just Martinus that thinks that movies are a real source? It's a Polish thing?
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The whining over Argo has been.... Delicious. :)
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 06, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
The whining over Argo has been.... Delicious. :)
I haven't heard any. CC and Josephus must not have gotten the mailer yet.
p.s.
1 ahahah 2 ahahah 3 ahahah 4 etc.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 06, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
The whining over Argo has been.... Delicious. :)
It's a typical Best Picture winner. Cynical about the world and hopelessly romantic about film and actors and the creatives :bleeding:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2013, 09:20:49 PM
I don't think I've ever seen anyone sucking face in a mall.
Go to Buenos Aires.
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 06, 2013, 08:48:48 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 08:45:49 AM
There is a slippery slope argument used there that if slavery is abolished it will lead to negroes marrying white women.
Oh ok. It did. Gay civil unions will lead to gay marriage and gay adoption. He's entirely right.
Of course. I agree. Same as abolishing slavery led to mixed unions. So the analogy is apt - you have a reactionary bemoaning the progress to things that are fine.
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 06, 2013, 08:58:13 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2013, 03:17:14 AM
Speaking of which, in a recent debate about civil unions for gay couples in Poland, one of the conservative Christian MPs raised an old-time-favourite argument that legalizing gay unions will lead to such evils as gay marriage and gay couples adopting children (sic!).
Fun fact: he is an African immigrant married to a white woman. He was told to watch the congressional debate on "Lincoln". :P
If one believes that gay marriage and gay adoption are "evil" then he is quite right to point out that legalizing gay unions will inevitably lead to such things. His conclusion is not illogical. Your point should probably have been that it is perfectly fine for there to be gay marriage and gay adoption.
Yes, that's my point. His conclusion is not illogical, just as the conclusion of a pro-slavery reactionary was logical. It was an invitation for him to self-reflect.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 06, 2013, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 06, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
The whining over Argo has been.... Delicious. :)
I haven't heard any. CC and Josephus must not have gotten the mailer yet.
p.s.
1 ahahah 2 ahahah 3 ahahah 4 etc.
Meh, Americans are ignorant. News at 11.
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 06, 2013, 12:02:27 PM
Meh, Americans are ignorant. News at 11.
It was not done in ignorance. It was done because Americans saving the day is more entertaining. The movie would have bombed if it was about Canadians, nobody wants to see that.
Quote from: Valmy on March 06, 2013, 12:12:19 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 06, 2013, 12:02:27 PM
Meh, Americans are ignorant. News at 11.
It was not done in ignorance. It was done because Americans saving the day is more entertaining. The movie would have bombed if it was about Canadians, nobody wants to see that.
I am not suggesting that Ben is ignorant. He clearly isnt. But that doesnt change the fact that most Americans are.
Your post is good evidence of that fact. It is entirely accurate that a movie reflecting true events not involving fictional American heroes would indeed have bombed in American movie theatres because Americans have little if any knowledge of the outside world.
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 06, 2013, 12:15:43 PM
I am not suggesting that Ben is ignorant. He clearly isnt. But that doesnt change the fact that most Americans are.
Your post is good evidence of that fact. It is entirely accurate that a movie reflecting true events not involving fictional American heroes would indeed have bombed in American movie theatres because Americans have little if any knowledge of the outside world.
Well personally I would only see a movie involving French heroes.
Quote from: Valmy on March 06, 2013, 12:21:48 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 06, 2013, 12:15:43 PM
I am not suggesting that Ben is ignorant. He clearly isnt. But that doesnt change the fact that most Americans are.
Your post is good evidence of that fact. It is entirely accurate that a movie reflecting true events not involving fictional American heroes would indeed have bombed in American movie theatres because Americans have little if any knowledge of the outside world.
Well personally I would only see a movie involving French heroes.
Ok, then clearly you are outside the norm.
After having watched Argo, I don't feel that it took anything away from the Canadians at all. The people whining about it are just the usual suspects who feel slighted at the drop of a hat.
I personally wish I hadn't seen it.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 05, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
I got a blowjob in the mall parking lot a few months back. Does that count?
I didn't eve know you were gay.
Quote from: Malthus on March 06, 2013, 03:08:55 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 05, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
I got a blowjob in the mall parking lot a few months back. Does that count?
I didn't eve know you were gay.
Holla!
Garbo is Africa?!?!
It all makes sense now.
Quote from: katmai on March 06, 2013, 03:13:21 PM
Garbo is Africa?!?!
It all makes sense now.
:lmfao:
Quote from: Malthus on March 06, 2013, 03:08:55 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 05, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
I got a blowjob in the mall parking lot a few months back. Does that count?
I didn't eve know you were gay.
Plenty of fat chicks are willing to put out in such places. :ph34r:
Quote from: Ideologue on March 05, 2013, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 05, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 05, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
I got a blowjob in the mall parking lot a few months back. Does that count?
While eating chick-fil-a.
No, gross.
Right, because that would be too teenagerish white trash. Unlike getting a blow job in a mall parking lot.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 06, 2013, 08:42:44 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 05, 2013, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 05, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 05, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
I got a blowjob in the mall parking lot a few months back. Does that count?
While eating chick-fil-a.
No, gross.
Right, because that would be too teenagerish white trash. Unlike getting a blow job in a mall parking lot.
I thought his concern was that they would lose their anorexic figure.