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Title: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 20, 2009, 09:19:31 PM
Hard to get excited over these arrests when the cops say there was little chance they could have carried out their plan. :mellow:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30856404/
QuoteNBC: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Suspects were under heavy surveillance, authorities say
   
BREAKING NEWS
NBC News
updated 28 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Four men have been arrested in a plot to attack several targets in the New York City area, including synagogues, federal and local authorities told NBC News Wednesday.

Authorities said the four men have long been under investigation and there was little danger they could actually have carried out their plan, NBC's Pete Williams reported.

Investigators say the four, described as Black Muslims from the Bronx, had planned to place bombs at various targets. But New York city police and federal agents got wind of the plot and kept the men under careful surveillance.

In fact, officials say, the men recently bought what they thought were explosives, which they put in storage lockers outside the city. But what the men did not know is that the material they bought was actually harmless, sold to them by informants posing as explosives dealers.

Officials emphasize that the men never had actual bombs and could not have pulled off any attack.

Two years ago, two Muslims pleaded guilty to plotting to attack synagogues in Los Angeles. But officials said that they knew of no connection between those arrests and this latest plot in New York.

This breaking news story will be updated.
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Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Queequeg on May 20, 2009, 09:22:20 PM
I suppose black means Afro-American convert rather than, say, Somali or something?

African-American respect/love for Islam is one of my all consuming hatreds, the anti-Byzantium or anti-Russia.   :mad:
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: MadImmortalMan on May 20, 2009, 10:00:11 PM

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Officials emphasize that the men never had actual bombs and could not have pulled off any attack.


Well, I hope they got the chance to waterboard them anyway.
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: garbon on May 20, 2009, 10:40:34 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 20, 2009, 09:22:20 PM
African-American respect/love for Islam is one of my all consuming hatreds, the anti-Byzantium or anti-Russia.   :mad:

Maybe it was The Nation. :wub:

In which, I'm not sure your hatred makes sense.
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Jaron on May 20, 2009, 10:42:35 PM
As if it ever does with him.
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Queequeg on May 20, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2009, 10:40:34 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 20, 2009, 09:22:20 PM
African-American respect/love for Islam is one of my all consuming hatreds, the anti-Byzantium or anti-Russia.   :mad:

Maybe it was The Nation. :wub:

In which, I'm not sure your hatred makes sense.
I grew up living two blocks away from Brother Minister Farrakhan.  Occasionally his followers would have a meeting and take up all the parking lots for blocks and blocks.   <_<
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: garbon on May 20, 2009, 10:58:37 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 20, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
I grew up living two blocks away from Brother Minister Farrakhan.  Occasionally his followers would have a meeting and take up all the parking lots for blocks and blocks.   <_<

Omg I just hate that I can't park my car!
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Razgovory on May 20, 2009, 11:03:32 PM
It just goes to show, George Bush continues to keep us safe.  Even when he's not President.
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: derspiess on May 20, 2009, 11:08:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 20, 2009, 11:03:32 PM
It just goes to show, George Bush continues to keep us safe.  Even when he's not President.

You're welcome  :hug:
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Queequeg on May 21, 2009, 01:21:34 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2009, 10:58:37 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 20, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
I grew up living two blocks away from Brother Minister Farrakhan.  Occasionally his followers would have a meeting and take up all the parking lots for blocks and blocks.   <_<

Omg I just hate that I can't park my car!
:rolleyes:

They rape history.  The Arab slave trade in sub-Saharan African peoples predates and postdates the European slave trade, not to mention the utter destruction of the great Nubian kingdom and continuing racial conflicts in Sudan and throughout the area, or continued, brutal discrimination throughout the entire Arab world. 

There is an ignorant assumption that Arabs are somehow less racist than white people, or that there is some special connection between Arab and Black culture.  Throughout my Grade School* and High School I had to sit through Black Muslim lectures on "white" or Christian-White opression and it pissed me off to no end, mostly because as a white guy I had no cred in debating that the Arab slave trade was awful and racism is a bigger factor in the Arab World today than in the West. 

BUT OF COURSE I'M REALLY JUST ANGRY ABOUT PARKING SPACES!  GO AHEAD AND FLAME ME!

*Yeah, I was weird in Grade School.
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: katmai on May 21, 2009, 01:31:38 AM
Now spellus not giving yourself enough credit, you are still a fricking nutball.
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Caliga on May 21, 2009, 06:47:47 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 20, 2009, 10:00:11 PM
Well, I hope they got the chance to waterboard them anyway.

We only waterboard real Muslims.  :)
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Caliga on May 21, 2009, 06:49:29 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 21, 2009, 01:21:34 AM
*Yeah, I was weird in Grade School.
Shocking! :o
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: KRonn on May 21, 2009, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 20, 2009, 09:19:31 PM
Hard to get excited over these arrests when the cops say there was little chance they could have carried out their plan. :mellow:
Seems there was little chance of success because the Feds had gotten wind of things, were watching, and even sold them the fake explosives. Else, maybe they could have gotten far enough to make attacks. In any event, good job by law enforcement and which ever Federal and State agencies were involved.
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Caliga on May 21, 2009, 07:52:12 AM
Interestingly, the articles I've read about this mention local police and FBI involvement, but no Department of Homeland Security involvement.  What exactly do those yahoos do?  :huh:
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Valmy on May 21, 2009, 08:18:14 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 21, 2009, 01:21:34 AM
They rape history.  The Arab slave trade in sub-Saharan African peoples predates and postdates the European slave trade, not to mention the utter destruction of the great Nubian kingdom and continuing racial conflicts in Sudan and throughout the area, or continued, brutal discrimination throughout the entire Arab world. 

There is an ignorant assumption that Arabs are somehow less racist than white people, or that there is some special connection between Arab and Black culture.  Throughout my Grade School* and High School I had to sit through Black Muslim lectures on "white" or Christian-White opression and it pissed me off to no end, mostly because as a white guy I had no cred in debating that the Arab slave trade was awful and racism is a bigger factor in the Arab World today than in the West. 

The point of the Nation of Islam is to say fuck you to Whitey.  Black people in the US could not give a flying shit about Africans or Arabs.  They are interested in being empowered here at home and to them that includes pissing off people like you :P
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Valmy on May 21, 2009, 08:19:02 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 21, 2009, 07:52:12 AM
Interestingly, the articles I've read about this mention local police and FBI involvement, but no Department of Homeland Security involvement.  What exactly do those yahoos do?  :huh:

They keep qualified PhD students from Middle Eastern countries from getting their visas.
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Ed Anger on May 21, 2009, 08:21:37 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 21, 2009, 08:19:02 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 21, 2009, 07:52:12 AM
Interestingly, the articles I've read about this mention local police and FBI involvement, but no Department of Homeland Security involvement.  What exactly do those yahoos do?  :huh:

They keep qualified PhD students from Middle Eastern countries from getting their visas.

Good. Fuckers are spying on us.
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: garbon on May 21, 2009, 08:31:33 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 21, 2009, 01:21:34 AM
BUT OF COURSE I'M REALLY JUST ANGRY ABOUT PARKING SPACES!  GO AHEAD AND FLAME ME!

Wow, if you are going to spend time being angry about ignorance, then you are always going to be very angry.
Title: Re: 4 arrested in plot to bomb NYC targets
Post by: Caliga on May 21, 2009, 09:15:34 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2009, 08:31:33 AM
Wow, if you are going to spend time being angry about ignorance, then you are always going to be very angry.

Billy Joel wrote a song about him once.  :)