Have you ever warn what is regarded as the national dress or costume ?
Perhaps even just a part or it, or maybe a regional or ethnic costume specific to your country ?
I'm sad to say I've never warn anything approaching our national costume, possibly because British is such a nebulous identity.
And there's no way in f*** I'm going to be seen dead in anything as contrived as morris dancers get up.
I do feel I've missed out in working in the old fashion city and never having warn regulation bowler, pin-strip and furled umbrella. :bowler:
I don't own a cowboy hat or boots if that's what you mean.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 08, 2013, 07:23:54 PM
I don't own a cowboy hat or boots if that's what you mean.
I don't know, I figure the nature of an American national dress would be as problematic at it is to a Brit.
I dressed up in Korean duds for my 1st birthday. The tradition is to dress up your sons, put a piece of money, a calligraphy brush, and some rice (not sure about this one) on a table in front of the kid. Whichever one he grabs first is supposed to predict his career path.
Thank God my parents chose this tradition, and not the other Korean tradition of taking your new born son down to the photo studio to have a beautiful airbrushed spreadeagle portrait taken of his pecker to blow up, frame, and display in the living room.
Photo studios in Korea will put these gigantic pecker shots in their window displays to show off their artistic prowess and attract more business.
When I think British national costume, I picture...
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 08, 2013, 07:28:11 PM
I dressed up in Korean duds for my 1st birthday. The tradition is to dress up your sons, put a piece of money, a calligraphy brush, and some rice (not sure about this one) on a table in front of the kid. Whichever one he grabs first is supposed to predict his career path.
Thank God my parents chose this tradition, and not the other Korean tradition of taking your new born son down to the photo studio to have a beautiful airbrushed spreadeagle portrait taken of his pecker to blow up, frame, and display in the living room.
Photo studios in Korea will put these gigantic pecker shots in their window displays to show off their artistic prowess and attract more business.
:D
Good one.
Is the pecker thing in anyway related to the giant phalluses in some Japanese religious/cultural events ?
Quote from: mongers on February 08, 2013, 07:32:08 PM
Is the pecker thing in anyway related to the giant phalluses in some Japanese religious/cultural events ?
Beats me.
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 08, 2013, 07:32:04 PM
When I think British national costume, I picture...
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But we can't do that, as I think military dress should fall outside of the thread topic; though I guess someone wearing one in that brief 60s style fashion might count al a The Beatles and some now rather dated films.
Quote from: mongers on February 08, 2013, 07:32:08 PM
Is the pecker thing in anyway related to the giant phalluses in some Japanese religious/cultural events ?
On second thought, probably not. Most giant phalluses are related to fertility rites, whereas the giant pecker photos are expression of pride in having a son in the family.
Quote from: mongers on February 08, 2013, 07:34:18 PM
But we can't do that, as I think military dress should fall outside of the thread topic; though I guess someone wearing one in that brief 60s style fashion might count al a The Beatles and some now rather dated films.
Next, you'll say Canadians cannot use the Mountie. :mad: :P
One might get ideas via the Miss Universe pageant's national costumes.
http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/galleries/TMG9755856/Miss-Universe-National-Costume-Show-2012.html
But then the U.K.'s for 2012? :thumbsdown:
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Quote from: Tonitrus on February 08, 2013, 07:42:47 PM
One might also choose via the Miss Universe pageant's national costumes.
But then the U.K.'s for 2012? :thumbsdown:
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:lol:
Man, that's god awful, designed to make any women look naff.
And a good illustration of the conflicted British feelings over the issue.
Our entry from 2011. :lol:
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No, I'm frankly not sure what our national dress is, I know the Greenland one as the royals tend to wear that when visiting our cold and mineral rich dominion.
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Quote from: Tonitrus on February 08, 2013, 07:46:40 PM
Our entry from 2011. :lol:
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Nice 'gap' and she's a redhead, so I can almost for give her/the 'designer' the rest of the abomination.
Hey, this topic seems to be a gift that keeps on giving, just google your nations "national costume".
Here's GB's 2010 Miss Universe get up:
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National Dress for the Brits
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I don't think a MEEEEShegan sweatshirt over khakis is national dress. But it ought to be.
Or a Georgetown lapel pin on your navy blue pinstripe suit.
Flannel and a toucque. I've worn it.
Quote from: mongers on February 08, 2013, 07:26:26 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 08, 2013, 07:23:54 PM
I don't own a cowboy hat or boots if that's what you mean.
I don't know, I figure the nature of an American national dress would be as problematic at it is to a Brit.
Jeans, tennis shoes and a t-shirt. Sure, I've worn that.
And the national costume of England, btw, is the 3-pc pinstripe business suit.
Quote from: Barrister on February 08, 2013, 08:33:08 PM
Flannel and a toucque. I've worn it.
After the Mountie, I was going to go with...
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The English-speaking peoples don't have a national costume, because all clcothing and fashion belongs to us anyways.
I've worn a full kilt.
A gun?
An alternate Cal approved costume ?
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 08, 2013, 07:28:11 PM
Thank God my parents chose this tradition, and not the other Korean tradition of taking your new born son down to the photo studio to have a beautiful airbrushed spreadeagle portrait taken of his pecker to blow up, frame, and display in the living room.
Photo studios in Korea will put these gigantic pecker shots in their window displays to show off their artistic prowess and attract more business.
WTF? I've never heard of anything like that.
I've got a pair of busted up old square toed Ariats, which with jeans and a t-shirt are about as close as I've come to anything like 'regional dress.' Cowboy hats aren't my thing. Sunglasses work just fine.
Quote from: mongers on February 08, 2013, 07:26:26 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 08, 2013, 07:23:54 PM
I don't own a cowboy hat or boots if that's what you mean.
I don't know, I figure the nature of an American national dress would be as problematic at it is to a Brit.
Both are variants of the standard business suit: the Brit banker and American bidnessman.
Schleswig-Holstein doesn't seem to have rigidly defined national costumes or "Tracht" as it's called in German for males, so I'll go with the shanty choir look (worn with white or black pants):
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Haven't worn it, though. Still, I keep that option open in case I ever get invited to a Tracht-themed fest, as Austrians are rather fond of those.
Slightly more seriously, I did wear a Ukrainian shirt for folklorama one year in Winnipeg. I volunteered together with my Ukrainian girlfriend.
Something like this.
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Quote from: Tonitrus on February 08, 2013, 08:36:43 PM
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Accurate!
Not really, no.
I've worn a flat cap before yes
Quote from: Razgovory on February 08, 2013, 08:14:27 PM
National Dress for the Brits
The English, you mean. The Scots, Irish and Welsh have no problems identifying a national dress. Our problem is we don't have a defining era, except maybe this:
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Or this:
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Quote from: dps on February 08, 2013, 08:36:31 PM
Jeans, tennis shoes and a t-shirt. Sure, I've worn that.
:yes:
I've taken to replacing the jeans with sweat pants though. More comfy. :blush:
I would argue a smart morning suit is the closest thing to English national dress:
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Or perhaps a classic Saville Row cut and a bowler:
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Nyet, national dress is not an upper class thing. They're outnumbered. 'tis more this:
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Shouldn't it be something like this, Tyr?
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If you're going to play the class card, look at what your grandparents wore to church and to weddings: suits.
Still the closest thing to a national dress. It's also England's contribution to attire.
Quote from: Zanza on February 09, 2013, 06:28:03 AM
Shouldn't it be something like this, Tyr?
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As Napoleon once said, it's a nation of coal miners. :yes:
Quote from: Warspite on February 09, 2013, 06:33:59 AM
If you're going to play the class card, look at what your grandparents wore to church and to weddings: suits.
Still the closest thing to a national dress. It's also England's contribution to attire.
The guy in his picture appears to be wearing one under his raincoat.
Yeah,I was thinking of traditional grandfather wear and it usually does involve a suit and tie. Albeit a....I don't know...plaid one.
This is probably closest to Polish folklore national dress although it is, strictly speaking, for people from Krakow area.
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Quote from: Brazen on February 09, 2013, 04:16:14 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 08, 2013, 08:14:27 PM
National Dress for the Brits
The English, you mean. The Scots, Irish and Welsh have no problems identifying a national dress.
No I meant British, many of us are not solely English.
Chick version.
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Dude version.
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Quote from: Barrister on February 08, 2013, 08:33:08 PM
Flannel and a toucque. I've worn it.
I'll give you the toque, but I don't think flannel is worn any more in Canada than the US.
Quote from: Warspite on February 09, 2013, 06:33:59 AM
If you're going to play the class card, look at what your grandparents wore to church and to weddings: suits.
Still the closest thing to a national dress. It's also England's contribution to attire.
My maternal grandfather, admittedly a colliery official rather than a run-of-the-mill miner, was prone to wearing 3-piece bespoke suits whenever he could get away with it. Back in the day even the roughest miners would wear a cheap suit for a saturday night at the miners' welfare. When you spend most of your life covered in dirt the opportunity to dress up becomes quite attractive.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 09, 2013, 10:18:41 PM
Quote from: Warspite on February 09, 2013, 06:33:59 AM
If you're going to play the class card, look at what your grandparents wore to church and to weddings: suits.
Still the closest thing to a national dress. It's also England's contribution to attire.
My maternal grandfather, admittedly a colliery official rather than a run-of-the-mill miner, was prone to wearing 3-piece bespoke suits whenever he could get away with it. Back in the day even the roughest miners would wear a cheap suit for a saturday night at the miners' welfare. When you spend most of your life covered in dirt the opportunity to dress up becomes quite attractive.
Yes, and it's often forgotten many manual workers, worked in their old suit if it was a suitable hard wearing fabrics.
I noticed in one of those 30s colour BFI archive films, a lot of the dockers were wearing them.
Quote from: Warspite on February 09, 2013, 06:33:59 AM
Still the closest thing to a national dress. It's also England's contribution to attire.
And the great Italian v English cut debate goes on :lol:
I think that's fair for an English national dress.
I can't think of anything else that's English anyway. There's certainly no such thing as British dress, it's a made up nation.
Quote from: mongers on February 09, 2013, 10:26:05 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 09, 2013, 10:18:41 PM
Quote from: Warspite on February 09, 2013, 06:33:59 AM
If you're going to play the class card, look at what your grandparents wore to church and to weddings: suits.
Still the closest thing to a national dress. It's also England's contribution to attire.
My maternal grandfather, admittedly a colliery official rather than a run-of-the-mill miner, was prone to wearing 3-piece bespoke suits whenever he could get away with it. Back in the day even the roughest miners would wear a cheap suit for a saturday night at the miners' welfare. When you spend most of your life covered in dirt the opportunity to dress up becomes quite attractive.
Yes, and it's often forgotten many manual workers, worked in their old suit if it was a suitable hard wearing fabrics.
I noticed in one of those 30s colour BFI archive films, a lot of the dockers were wearing them.
My stepfather often would even wear a dress shirt and tie (though not a full suit) when doing yard work around the house.
Are you sure the dude in the dude version is a dude Legbiter?
Quote from: mongers on February 08, 2013, 07:15:14 PM
Have you ever warn what is regarded as the national dress or costume ?
I do feel I've missed out in working in the old fashion city and never having warn regulation bowler, pin-strip and furled umbrella. :bowler:
Sure, all the time, it's the only costume that fits right on me:
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Real answer: no. ;)
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