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Poll
Question: Which cat is the coolest?
Option 1: Lion votes: 5
Option 2: Tiger votes: 16
Option 3: Leopard votes: 5
Option 4: Jaguar votes: 9
Option 5: Cheetah votes: 8
Option 6: Mountain lion/ cougar votes: 3
Option 7: Jaron votes: 3
Option 8: Cats that fuck up the dickhead trophy hunters that hunt them for shits and giggles because they've got little dicks votes: 4
Title: Big Cats
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 18, 2013, 04:55:40 PM
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Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: garbon on January 18, 2013, 04:57:39 PM
Went with Jaguar.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Malthus on January 18, 2013, 04:57:45 PM
Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: derspiess on January 18, 2013, 04:59:41 PM
No Liger? It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 18, 2013, 04:59:41 PM
No Liger? It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic.

Spoken like a poor person.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: The Brain on January 18, 2013, 05:15:33 PM
Siberian tiger.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: derspiess on January 18, 2013, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 18, 2013, 04:59:41 PM
No Liger? It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic.

Spoken like a poor person.

:huh:
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:16:59 PM
Other, Lynx
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Barrister on January 18, 2013, 05:32:45 PM
Someone is an OS X fan I see. :)
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:35:34 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 18, 2013, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 18, 2013, 04:59:41 PM
No Liger? It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic.

Spoken like a poor person.

:huh:

I don't think Napoleon Dynamite was rich.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:16:59 PM
Other, Lynx

I wanted Bobcat but then I remembered that neither count as big cats.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: derspiess on January 18, 2013, 05:37:51 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:35:34 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 18, 2013, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 18, 2013, 04:59:41 PM
No Liger? It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic.

Spoken like a poor person.

:huh:

I don't think Napoleon Dynamite was rich.

Well now he is :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: derspiess on January 18, 2013, 05:39:44 PM
Anyway I gotta say Siberian Tiger.  I should go with Bengal Tiger for obvious reasons, but those Siberians are huge mofos.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:42:03 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:16:59 PM
Other, Lynx

I wanted Bobcat but then I remembered that neither count as big cats.

Surprising -  I saw a Lynx once in the wild driving back from a ski vacation.  That sucker was huge.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 18, 2013, 05:53:28 PM
That's odd. Wiki lists the Canadian lynx at around 20 lbs. The Eurasian lynx gets up to 60, but you'd be unlikely to have seen one of them.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Barrister on January 18, 2013, 05:59:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:42:03 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:16:59 PM
Other, Lynx

I wanted Bobcat but then I remembered that neither count as big cats.

Surprising -  I saw a Lynx once in the wild driving back from a ski vacation.  That sucker was huge.

The lynx I saw along the Robert Campbell Highway was certainly larger than a housecat, but I wouldn't call it "huge".
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Malthus on January 18, 2013, 06:12:47 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2013, 05:59:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:42:03 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:16:59 PM
Other, Lynx

I wanted Bobcat but then I remembered that neither count as big cats.

Surprising -  I saw a Lynx once in the wild driving back from a ski vacation.  That sucker was huge.

The lynx I saw along the Robert Campbell Highway was certainly larger than a housecat, but I wouldn't call it "huge".

I've never seen one in the wild, but allegedly they average about 20 pounds and are often described as being twice the size of housecats. Not really in the same league as Tigers.  ;)
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 18, 2013, 06:16:14 PM
Panthera leo atrox

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOolf34K.png&hash=40650c5a0c1242574f1a63c5e7bb12f7470714c5)
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 06:16:17 PM
Quote from: Malthus on January 18, 2013, 06:12:47 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2013, 05:59:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:42:03 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:16:59 PM
Other, Lynx

I wanted Bobcat but then I remembered that neither count as big cats.

Surprising -  I saw a Lynx once in the wild driving back from a ski vacation.  That sucker was huge.

The lynx I saw along the Robert Campbell Highway was certainly larger than a housecat, but I wouldn't call it "huge".

I've never seen one in the wild, but allegedly they average about 20 pounds and are often described as being twice the size of housecats. Not really in the same league as Tigers.  ;)

This was a good 80-100-lbs

It was larger than our dog which weighs about 80.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Malthus on January 18, 2013, 06:20:48 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 06:16:17 PM
Quote from: Malthus on January 18, 2013, 06:12:47 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2013, 05:59:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:42:03 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 05:16:59 PM
Other, Lynx

I wanted Bobcat but then I remembered that neither count as big cats.

Surprising -  I saw a Lynx once in the wild driving back from a ski vacation.  That sucker was huge.

The lynx I saw along the Robert Campbell Highway was certainly larger than a housecat, but I wouldn't call it "huge".

I've never seen one in the wild, but allegedly they average about 20 pounds and are often described as being twice the size of housecats. Not really in the same league as Tigers.  ;)

This was a good 80-100-lbs

It was larger than our dog which weighs about 80.

Wasn't a Lynx then. Probably a mountain lion.

Lynx:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_lynx

Mountain Lion/Cougar/Puma:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_lion

Mountain lions easily get up to 80-100 pounds. Lynxes are more in the 20 pound range.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: katmai on January 18, 2013, 06:23:58 PM
I've filmed a lynx in wild so :blurgh: to all of you.


















And it wasn't near 80-100lbs, but was about 30-40 lbs. :P
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Ed Anger on January 18, 2013, 06:26:42 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 18, 2013, 06:23:58 PM
I've filmed a lynx in wild so :blurgh: to all of you.


















And it wasn't near 80-100lbs, but was about 30-40 lbs. :P

And a cougar too. :perv:
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: katmai on January 18, 2013, 06:28:27 PM
No i will not introduce you to Sarah, sheesh Ed.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Ed Anger on January 18, 2013, 06:29:27 PM
I SHOOK HER HAND.

That is all I need.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Malthus on January 18, 2013, 06:30:37 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 18, 2013, 06:26:42 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 18, 2013, 06:23:58 PM
I've filmed a lynx in wild so :blurgh: to all of you.


















And it wasn't near 80-100lbs, but was about 30-40 lbs. :P

And a cougar too. :perv:

In the state of nature?  :P
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 18, 2013, 06:32:55 PM
EDIT: Image too big

African lion vs. American Lion

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fonfinite.com%2Flibraries%2F1452006%2F474.jpg&hash=8fd87374e611dc3ac69db726984f43f02fcbdf28)
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: crazy canuck on January 18, 2013, 06:34:32 PM
Naw, this didnt look like a mountain lion or a couger, it looked like a Lynx only very large.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Doesn't really matter which is coolest, they'll all disappear from the face of the planet within decades anyway.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: lustindarkness on January 18, 2013, 07:36:05 PM
Cheetara  :blush:
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: PDH on January 18, 2013, 07:37:48 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Doesn't really matter which is coolest, they'll all disappear from the face of the planet within decades anyway.

So will I  :(
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Razgovory on January 18, 2013, 07:38:34 PM
House cat.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 18, 2013, 07:40:37 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Doesn't really matter which is coolest, they'll all disappear from the face of the planet within decades anyway.

Stop being a downer.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 18, 2013, 07:40:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Doesn't really matter which is coolest, they'll all disappear from the face of the planet within decades anyway.
Don't most big cats have large enough captive populations so that they'll only go extinct in the wild?
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Tonitrus on January 18, 2013, 07:42:16 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on January 18, 2013, 07:36:05 PM
Cheetara  :blush:

Pumyra was hotter.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: lustindarkness on January 18, 2013, 07:48:00 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on January 18, 2013, 07:42:16 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on January 18, 2013, 07:36:05 PM
Cheetara  :blush:

Pumyra was hotter.

Nerd.  :mad:
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 07:48:49 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 18, 2013, 07:40:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Doesn't really matter which is coolest, they'll all disappear from the face of the planet within decades anyway.
Don't most big cats have large enough captive populations so that they'll only go extinct in the wild?

Well, that makes it fucking OK then, now doesn't it?
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: PDH on January 18, 2013, 07:50:26 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 07:48:49 PM

Well, that makes it fucking OK then, now doesn't it?

Tim wants to be Bruce Dern in Silent Running
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 07:55:03 PM
Timmay needs to go extinct in the wild.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Valmy on January 18, 2013, 08:50:04 PM
Tigers are mean.
Tigers are fierce.
Tigers have teeth
and claws that pierce.

Tigers are great,
they can't be beat.
If I was a tiger,
that would be neat.

Tigers are nimble
and light on their toes,
my respect for tigers
continually grows.

Tigers are great!
They're the toast of the town.
Life's always better
when a tiger's around!

Tigers are perfect,
the e-pit-o-me
of good looks and grace
and quiet dignity.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on January 18, 2013, 09:28:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWkIMUfamxI

:wub:

E: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2btR9rAcdzo
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 18, 2013, 09:28:08 PM
:wub:

E: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2btR9rAcdzo

QuoteThis cheetah kitten named Nala was in Namibia Africa when I was visiting some friends of mine this past summer. Her mother was killed by a car, so my friends kindly took care of her. She was well fed and had 44,000 acres to roam around in and be safe. Enjoy!

I hope for the cat's sake the above is incorrect, and that she was given to the appropriately trained personnel at a proper conservation facility.  But I fucking doubt it.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on January 18, 2013, 09:59:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 09:38:32 PM
I hope for the cat's sake the above is incorrect, and that she was given to the appropriately trained personnel at a proper conservation facility.  But I fucking doubt it.

Actually, I wonder if this is the same one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandfontein_luxury_lodge__nature_and_game_reserve/6441891239/lightbox/

Same name, although that could just be a common name (there's another one, or at least I think it's another one, named Nala that is being monitored by Cheetah Conservation Botswana) given to these things over there.  Anyway, it's in Namibia, the thing is pretty comfortable with people, etc.  That Sandfontein place is a protected area.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 10:01:55 PM
That's cool.  My righteous indignation is mildly de-indignated now.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: DontSayBanana on January 18, 2013, 10:22:20 PM
Of the options, tiger.

Given an open playing field, it'd be a toss-up between ocelots and servals for me.  I want a cat that'll go swimming with me. :P
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Jaron on January 18, 2013, 10:51:14 PM
Tigers are scary. :(
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: PRC on January 18, 2013, 11:59:06 PM
I know some of the posters here also visit the Straight Dope so I thought i'd shared an older link to a thread there that this poll reminded me of: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=661555

The poster there, "My Lord", has obsessively put together probably the most comprehensive list ever of why Lions are greater than Tigers.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Syt on January 19, 2013, 12:05:43 AM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.debsimonphotography.com%2Fimages%2Famur_tiger_westward_snow.jpg&hash=282e6c7626c946c2d47b14f1c49e486344f8cb71)
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Admiral Yi on January 19, 2013, 02:24:50 PM
Anyone else seen that footage?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejeWqQ6fxqo

Generally agree with the tiger consensus, but lions have their moments.
Title: Your opinions are terrible!
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 19, 2013, 08:20:32 PM
While I disagree, I can understand the Tiger beating out the Lion. But the Jaguar! The fucking Cheetah!? What the hell is wrong with you people!?
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: sbr on January 19, 2013, 08:20:57 PM
I gotta go tiger myself.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: katmai on January 19, 2013, 08:21:38 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 19, 2013, 08:20:57 PM
I gotta go tiger myself.

No need to hear your weirdo Oregonian sexual euphemisms sirrah!
Title: Re: Your opinions are terrible!
Post by: Ed Anger on January 19, 2013, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 19, 2013, 08:20:32 PM
While I disagree, I can understand the Tiger beating out the Lion. But the Jaguar! The fucking Cheetah!? What the hell is wrong with you people!?

Calm down spaz.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: derspiess on January 19, 2013, 11:14:10 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 18, 2013, 10:22:20 PM
Of the options, tiger.

Given an open playing field, it'd be a toss-up between ocelots and servals for me.  I want a cat that'll go swimming with me. :P

For smaller cats I'd go Fishing Cat all the way.  Gorgeous animals.
Title: Re: Your opinions are terrible!
Post by: Syt on January 20, 2013, 12:18:25 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 19, 2013, 08:20:32 PM
While I disagree, I can understand the Tiger beating out the Lion. But the Jaguar! The fucking Cheetah!? What the hell is wrong with you people!?

Well, actually leopard comes second for me, in its black panther variety:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F5%2F5e%2FBlackleopard.JPG&hash=bf21570446b73f01ec59743f97918a76b741b28c)
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Tonitrus on January 20, 2013, 12:31:54 AM
I really like tigers, but I have to give a slight edge to Snow Leopards.  :wub:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.dynafit.com%2Factions_events%2F_thumbs%2F824x_snowleopard.jpg&hash=9a007be300a390022f00f25c44db029a7e70286f)
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: 11B4V on January 20, 2013, 02:59:00 AM
A badass cat

Interesting thread. Lastest copy of Dangerous Game Hunting has a great little article title, "Most Dangerous". Author is a very experienced Professional Hunter. Opening paragraph as follows;

QuoteOf all the big five (and dangerous seven) the Leopard is the smallest and most feared above all others by Professional Hunters (PH) throughout Africa. You are not likely to die from the wounds it inflicts, however, a long road to recovery from those wounds and infections, requiring extensive medical attention. Inflicting damage at an incredible rate of speed, it can and has wounded entire hunting parties w/o a shot being fired.

QuoteLeopard attacks account for 86% of all recorded PH, trackers, and clients injuries in Zimbabwe.

QuoteA wounded leopard follow-up is not something anyone should ever experience. If it has life left it will charge at some stage unexpectedly, silently, and with unbelievable speed from the thickest cover.

Love their cammo
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotogalleri.com%2Fphotogalleri%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FLeopard-about-to-charge.jpg&hash=79169534e3225716875a6f20febd475c88ef3482)


Sweet little Putty tat
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.nationalgeographic.com%2Fwpf%2Fmedia-live%2Fphotos%2F000%2F006%2Fcache%2Fleopard_606_600x450.jpg&hash=4eea77bc05382032d6d8a608e7d5ac82fde41215)


:huh: Skip to 02:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcyvV4k8hY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6KjA85XIkY


Good vid of why they are feared
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCsdQzO7PLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swFvWlTTF6k



 

Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: The Brain on January 20, 2013, 03:45:30 AM
Quoteit can and has wounded entire hunting parties w/o a shot being fired

One would certainly hope so. :o
Title: Re: Your opinions are terrible!
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 20, 2013, 12:42:51 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 19, 2013, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 19, 2013, 08:20:32 PM
While I disagree, I can understand the Tiger beating out the Lion. But the Jaguar! The fucking Cheetah!? What the hell is wrong with you people!?

Calm down spaz.  :rolleyes:

Don't get me started on the lack of Smilodon! :angry:
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 20, 2013, 01:18:46 PM
Hunting smilodon to extinction- so easy a caveman could do it.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m08752ll3P1qb8x3g.jpg&hash=1b7e9f44340d66104e1c6dcb479cdf98aa208698)
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: 11B4V on January 20, 2013, 01:29:32 PM
A valiant charge.  :weep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTQm4AU3caY
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2013, 01:33:38 PM
Enough with the canned hunt pornography, 11B.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 20, 2013, 01:34:47 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 20, 2013, 01:18:46 PM
Hunting smilodon to extinction- so easy a caveman could do it.

Very unlikely it was hunted to extincting, much more likely that its prey was hunted to extinction.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: 11B4V on January 20, 2013, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2013, 01:33:38 PM
Enough with the canned hunt pornography, 11B.

merely to show what these cool cats....are cabable of.  ;)
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2013, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 20, 2013, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2013, 01:33:38 PM
Enough with the canned hunt pornography, 11B.

merely to show what these cool cats....are cabable of.  ;)

Dying to the sounds of laughter.  Got it.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 05:16:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2013, 01:33:38 PM
Enough with the canned hunt pornography, 11B.

I'll be sure to post some pics next time I'm at my uncle's place.  There's a bear down there with my name on it.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Razgovory on January 20, 2013, 05:19:37 PM
There is a bear named Shayne?
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Jaron on January 20, 2013, 05:51:37 PM
Those videos were eye opening. With an entire continent of beasts like that, its a wonder any Africans have survived to the modern age at all!
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Malthus on January 20, 2013, 05:53:29 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 05:16:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2013, 01:33:38 PM
Enough with the canned hunt pornography, 11B.

I'll be sure to post some pics next time I'm at my uncle's place.  There's a bear down there with my name on it.

"You're not really here for the hunting, are you?"

http://gafy.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=43
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: 11B4V on January 20, 2013, 06:38:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2013, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 20, 2013, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2013, 01:33:38 PM
Enough with the canned hunt pornography, 11B.

merely to show what these cool cats....are cabable of.  ;)

Dying to the sounds of laughter.  Got it.

Very nervious laughter at that.  :lol:
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Camerus on January 21, 2013, 05:46:46 AM
Lions.  There's a reason they're kings of the jungle.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Razgovory on January 21, 2013, 06:12:33 AM
Do Lions even live in Jungles?
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2013, 08:06:15 AM
The Lion used to be the most widespread animal after people.

Historic range
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F7%2F7d%2FLion_distribution.png%2F687px-Lion_distribution.png&hash=eb3e8cf99ff6f381f7159807e2bf45e898c23581)

Pleistocene range
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F78rxYBx.png&hash=06fba4ba82809a35e60305631c3af49a204f067e) (http://imgur.com/78rxYBx)
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: mongers on January 21, 2013, 09:31:23 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2013, 08:06:15 AM
The Lion used to be the most widespread animal after people.


If you mean mammals, what about rats ?
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2013, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: mongers on January 21, 2013, 09:31:23 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2013, 08:06:15 AM
The Lion used to be the most widespread animal after people.


If you mean mammals, what about rats ?
Should have said large land animal.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2013, 06:55:03 PM
At 2.5 meters (8.2 ft) tall and weighing over 2,000 kilograms (4,400 lb), Bison latifrons was one of the largest bovids to ever live.

Not big enough!  :menace:

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Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 21, 2013, 07:04:33 PM
3 on 1 is not very fair.  :P
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2013, 07:27:32 PM
He still outweighs them 2 to 1.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Razgovory on January 21, 2013, 07:35:48 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2013, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: mongers on January 21, 2013, 09:31:23 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2013, 08:06:15 AM
The Lion used to be the most widespread animal after people.


If you mean mammals, what about rats ?
Should have said large land animal.

I imagine the various species of cow were more widespread.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2013, 07:57:03 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 21, 2013, 07:35:48 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2013, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: mongers on January 21, 2013, 09:31:23 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2013, 08:06:15 AM
The Lion used to be the most widespread animal after people.


If you mean mammals, what about rats ?
Should have said large land animal.

I imagine the various species of cow were more widespread.
While certainly more numerous, they weren't more widespread. There were a lot more species of cattle and buffalo then there were of big cat.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Jaron on January 21, 2013, 08:36:41 PM
Cattle are dumb. If you fuck with a lion, all his brothers and sisters are going to come check out the scene.

If a lion attacks a cow the rest just watch.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 21, 2013, 10:34:31 PM
Not always. I've seen lots of footage of water buffaloes taking on a lion pride.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 22, 2013, 01:07:58 PM
A famous example of that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 23, 2013, 02:59:53 PM
Lions hunting elephants

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2lU8HcxIAw8#!
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 24, 2013, 07:37:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INOflR-UeWo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INOflR-UeWo)

Leopard defending itself from lion pride
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 25, 2013, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 24, 2013, 07:37:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INOflR-UeWo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INOflR-UeWo)

Leopard defending itself from lion pride
Damn, that Leopard was pretty lucky. Tenacious too.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: The Brain on January 25, 2013, 02:18:37 PM
I stalk the most dangerous prey of all.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 25, 2013, 03:51:26 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 25, 2013, 02:18:37 PM
I stalk the most dangerous prey of all.
Man?
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: The Brain on January 25, 2013, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 25, 2013, 03:51:26 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 25, 2013, 02:18:37 PM
I stalk the most dangerous prey of all.
Man?

Woman.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Ed Anger on January 25, 2013, 06:55:43 PM
Polack. They are 10th level wizards.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Jaron on January 25, 2013, 08:01:37 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 23, 2013, 02:59:53 PM
Lions hunting elephants

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2lU8HcxIAw8#!

So not impressed. a pride of lions killing baby elephants?
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 25, 2013, 08:38:53 PM
Quote from: Jaron on January 25, 2013, 08:01:37 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 23, 2013, 02:59:53 PM
Lions hunting elephants

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2lU8HcxIAw8#!

So not impressed. a pride of lions killing baby elephants?
They're between 4 and 15 years of age, hardly babies.
http://johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/life_history/risk/lion_elephant_predation_2006.html

A pride takes down a full grown giraffe at the end of this documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKgoSG4QJxM
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 26, 2013, 02:25:28 PM
So why do Lions live in prides?

Cooperative hunting? Communal suckling of cubs?

Nope, it's fear of other Lions taking their territory, how very human like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9RugZwVhzo
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Jaron on January 26, 2013, 05:06:24 PM
Humans are afraid of lions taking their territory?
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 26, 2013, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Jaron on January 26, 2013, 05:06:24 PM
Humans are afraid of lions taking their territory?
:lol:

The fear of their own species taking their territory.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Jaron on January 26, 2013, 05:10:25 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 25, 2013, 08:38:53 PM
Quote from: Jaron on January 25, 2013, 08:01:37 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 23, 2013, 02:59:53 PM
Lions hunting elephants

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2lU8HcxIAw8#!

So not impressed. a pride of lions killing baby elephants?
They're between 4 and 15 years of age, hardly babies.
http://johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/life_history/risk/lion_elephant_predation_2006.html

A pride takes down a full grown giraffe at the end of this documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKgoSG4QJxM

You're full of it. Your article is about lions attacking sick, weak, or preadult elephants. That is hardly surprising or a feat for a large group of lions.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 26, 2013, 05:19:06 PM
A quick survey of the net says that a six year old elephant will weigh 600 kilos, a ten year old will weigh 1200 kilos, a 15 year old 1600 kilos. Those are big animals, and the ability of Lions (typically 120-200 kilos) to kill them is still impressive.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 26, 2013, 05:29:23 PM
:contract:
pdf link Lion predation on elephants in the Savuti,
Chobe National Park, Botswana (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CF4QFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fafricanzoology.journals.ac.za%2Fpub%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2F444%2F418&ei=71UEUZ3JM8iy0AHx-oDQBw&usg=AFQjCNHL7bUQeWjFrm0mQy-miex5TiBpuw&bvm=bv.41524429,d.dmQ)

QuoteAdult lions weigh, on average, 190 and 126 kg
in males and females, respectively (Smuts 1982;
Skinner & Smithers 1990), and adult elephant
males and females weigh six and four tonnes
respectively (Skinner & Smithers 1990), while the
subadults weigh less than half the weight of the
females. This ratio of between 1:10–15, is certainly
the largest predator to prey weight ratio known
among terrestrial mammals
(e.g. Packer 1986).
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 26, 2013, 05:53:16 PM
Not true, humans also hunt elephants. (Not to mention whales, as you did specify land animals)
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 26, 2013, 05:59:50 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 26, 2013, 05:53:16 PM
Not true, humans also hunt elephants. (Not to mention whales, as you did specify land animals)
While true, it hardly seems a fair comparison. Humans are better than most animals at what they do, it doesn't mean that the ability is not impressive.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: The Brain on January 26, 2013, 06:13:51 PM
There is much to be learnt from beasts.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Jaron on January 26, 2013, 06:17:28 PM
That doesn't really seem fair though, Tim.

It isn't a single lion going after an elephant. They're like a African street gang.

Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Ed Anger on January 26, 2013, 06:18:32 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 26, 2013, 06:13:51 PM
There is much to be learnt from beasts.

Neigh
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 26, 2013, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 26, 2013, 06:18:32 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 26, 2013, 06:13:51 PM
There is much to be learnt from beasts.

Neigh
:lmfao:

Jaron - That's what makes them better than Tigers. Tigers may be a little larger, but Lions are smarter.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 26, 2013, 09:43:21 PM
I wish a pride would collectively spray Timmay, marking him as a moron.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Ideologue on January 26, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Doesn't really matter which is coolest, they'll all disappear from the face of the planet within decades anyway.

Save your tears for animals whose existence doesn't involve slaughter.

Gotta go feed my cats. -_-
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Jaron on January 26, 2013, 11:11:14 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 26, 2013, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 26, 2013, 06:18:32 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 26, 2013, 06:13:51 PM
There is much to be learnt from beasts.

Neigh
:lmfao:

Jaron - That's what makes them better than Tigers. Tigers may be a little larger, but Lions are smarter.

I would think an animal that has to hunt alone would be the smarter one. Lions don't need to be smart, just numerous.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 27, 2013, 12:29:43 AM
Social animals are smarter than solitary ones, this is not controversial.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Maximus on January 27, 2013, 12:35:02 AM
It is controversial because "smartness" is very subjective.

They may seem smarter to other social animals.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Jaron on January 27, 2013, 01:11:38 AM
I just read tigers have bigger brains than lions. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Ortiz.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Queequeg on January 27, 2013, 04:19:13 AM
Lion.  Many thousands of years as one of the most universal political and cultural symbols for power. 
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Ideologue on January 27, 2013, 04:54:11 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 27, 2013, 12:29:43 AM
Social animals are smarter than solitary ones, this is not controversial.

That's a blanket statement.  Octopi are smarter than ants; they're probably smarter than lions as well.  They are very asocial.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 27, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 27, 2013, 04:54:11 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 27, 2013, 12:29:43 AM
Social animals are smarter than solitary ones, this is not controversial.

That's a blanket statement.  Octopi are smarter than ants; they're probably smarter than lions as well.  They are very asocial.
But social animals of one type are smarter than similar types that are solitary. Social insects are typically smarter than solitary ones, Lions are smarter than tigers, monkeys that live in large social groups are smarter than those that live alone.

That is a rather proactive claim on behalf of the Octopi, offer some proof.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 27, 2013, 09:13:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 27, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
That is a rather proactive claim on behalf of the Octopi, offer some proof.

They can learn how to swim.  Ants can't.  So there.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: katmai on January 27, 2013, 09:15:00 AM
An octopus is smarter than Ortiz.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 27, 2013, 09:17:05 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 27, 2013, 09:13:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 27, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
That is a rather proactive claim on behalf of the Octopi, offer some proof.

They can learn how to swim.  Ants can't.  So there.
:lol:

I meant his claim that they were probably smarter than lions.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Ideologue on January 27, 2013, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 27, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 27, 2013, 04:54:11 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 27, 2013, 12:29:43 AM
Social animals are smarter than solitary ones, this is not controversial.

That's a blanket statement.  Octopi are smarter than ants; they're probably smarter than lions as well.  They are very asocial.
But social animals of one type are smarter than similar types that are solitary. Social insects are typically smarter than solitary ones, Lions are smarter than tigers, monkeys that live in large social groups are smarter than those that live alone.

That is a rather proactive claim on behalf of the Octopi, offer some proof.

Go read a book from the last twenty years.  Octopi can figure out mazes, traps, trick containers, etc.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 27, 2013, 12:53:26 PM
Octopi are better than lions at predicting soccer games.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on August 23, 2016, 10:48:03 PM
The American Lion continues to be the best cat!  :menace:

African Lion, Dinocrocuta gigantea (http://dinocrocutagigantea), American Lion, Kodiak Bear (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodiak_bear)

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Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: Tonitrus on August 23, 2016, 11:34:22 PM
Obviously not, as it no longer exists.
Title: Re: Big Cats
Post by: jimmy olsen on August 23, 2016, 11:44:00 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 23, 2016, 11:34:22 PM
Obviously not, as it no longer exists.

Don't really see how being extinct is relevant to it being the best. They, like many animals, went extinct because of circumstances completely out of their control.