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Poll
Question: Please select the white ethnic group that is objectively the worst.
Option 1: Irish votes: 4
Option 2: Non-Irish Celts (Welsh, Bretons, Scots) votes: 2
Option 3: East Slavs (Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian) votes: 15
Option 4: West Slavs (Poles, Czechs, Slovaks) votes: 0
Option 5: South Slavs (Serbs, Bulgarians, Croats) votes: 19
Option 6: Finno-Ugric (Finns, Hungarians) votes: 3
Option 7: Turks votes: 3
Title: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on December 29, 2012, 12:26:35 PM
I admit some may dispute whether the Turks are white or not, but I lean towards them being so, thus they are included.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: The Brain on December 29, 2012, 12:31:10 PM
East or South Slavs, if we accept the fiction that they are white.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Barrister on December 29, 2012, 12:41:50 PM
The French. <_<
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Josquius on December 29, 2012, 01:12:13 PM
I can't help but thinking missing off the French was to stop them running away with it as the go-to-hatee.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Ed Anger on December 29, 2012, 02:51:02 PM
The Welsh, followed closely by Geordies.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 29, 2012, 02:52:26 PM
Y'all can bust on the Irish all you want, but I'm up to my ass in fucking Russians and other Cossack undesirables around here these days.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: HVC on December 29, 2012, 02:54:43 PM
Voted WASPs (for the purposes of this poll Non-Irish Celts). Boring prudish group of people.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Habbaku on December 29, 2012, 03:40:14 PM
South Slavs, mainly the Serbs, Croats, Serbo-Croats, Croato-Serbs, Bosniaks, Kosovars, Kosovaks, Cossacks, etc.

I would exclude the Bulgarians from being as much of shitheads as the others, though.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: mongers on December 29, 2012, 03:44:08 PM
ManU  fans ?  :bowler:
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Viking on December 29, 2012, 03:49:11 PM
BTW, why did the Black Monkey Thread get cancelled but this one lives?
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: The Brain on December 29, 2012, 03:49:51 PM
Quote from: Viking on December 29, 2012, 03:49:11 PM
BTW, why did the Black Monkey Thread get cancelled but this one lives?

That one was racist, this one is honest.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Tonitrus on December 29, 2012, 06:59:29 PM
No options for Scandinavians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks, Germans, or Swedes? 

Poll fail.  :mad:
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on December 29, 2012, 07:05:01 PM
There are limited options to the polls here, and I consider some of the European peoples to be "Great Nations of the World" and thus immune from such a poll.

The English and Germans for example, are clearly not the worst white ethnic group. Much as it pains me to say it, you can't say that about the French either. Or even the Italians and the Greeks.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Barrister on December 29, 2012, 07:31:54 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on December 29, 2012, 07:05:01 PM
There are limited options to the polls here, and I consider some of the European peoples to be "Great Nations of the World" and thus immune from such a poll.

The English and Germans for example, are clearly not the worst white ethnic group. Much as it pains me to say it, you can't say that about the French either. Or even the Italians and the Greeks.

For whatever positives the French have going for them, it still doesn't take them out of the cellar of europe.

Modern Italians and Greeks aren't even white, so they don't qualify for your poll.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Sahib on December 29, 2012, 07:37:27 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 29, 2012, 07:31:54 PM

Modern Italians and Greeks aren't even white, so they don't qualify for your poll.

Unlike their ancient Aryan ancestors?
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: katmai on December 29, 2012, 07:47:39 PM
Really all Slavs are reprehensible.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Barrister on December 29, 2012, 07:52:01 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 29, 2012, 07:47:39 PM
Really all Slavs are reprehensible awesome.

:cool:
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: katmai on December 29, 2012, 08:19:20 PM
See case in point, they are all vandals.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 29, 2012, 08:22:10 PM
It's funny, cause BB is the most British of all the Canadians on the board.  :hmm:
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Razgovory on December 29, 2012, 08:25:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 29, 2012, 08:22:10 PM
It's funny, cause BB is the most British of all the Canadians on the board.  :hmm:

Being worshipful of foreign God-Kings is also a trait found in Ukes.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Neil on December 29, 2012, 09:49:43 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on December 29, 2012, 07:05:01 PM
There are limited options to the polls here, and I consider some of the European peoples to be "Great Nations of the World" and thus immune from such a poll.

The English and Germans for example, are clearly not the worst white ethnic group. Much as it pains me to say it, you can't say that about the French either. Or even the Italians and the Greeks.
The Greeks are on the poll, in the form of the Turks.

Besides, the Scandis aren't a great nation of any kind.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Ideologue on December 29, 2012, 10:33:33 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 29, 2012, 08:19:20 PM
See case in point, they are all vandals.

Vandals were Germanic.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: chipwich on December 29, 2012, 11:08:58 PM
Where is Portuguese?
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 29, 2012, 11:15:26 PM
Quote from: chipwich on December 29, 2012, 11:08:58 PM
Where is Portuguese?

Not white.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: merithyn on December 29, 2012, 11:58:49 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 29, 2012, 02:51:02 PM
The Welsh, followed closely by Geordies.

:glare:

We're lovely people.  :bowler:
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 30, 2012, 12:05:30 AM
I was torn between Irish and Non-Irish Celts, so I went with NIC since they're not drunken enough. :P
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Neil on December 30, 2012, 12:10:50 AM
Quote from: merithyn on December 29, 2012, 11:58:49 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 29, 2012, 02:51:02 PM
The Welsh, followed closely by Geordies.

:glare:

We're lovely people.  :bowler:
I thought you were soe kind of spic?
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: merithyn on December 30, 2012, 02:16:06 AM
Quote from: Neil on December 30, 2012, 12:10:50 AM
Quote from: merithyn on December 29, 2012, 11:58:49 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 29, 2012, 02:51:02 PM
The Welsh, followed closely by Geordies.

:glare:

We're lovely people.  :bowler:
I thought you were soe kind of spic?

I was raised Mexican. My blood is Welsh. My friends call me Welshican. :P
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Tonitrus on December 30, 2012, 02:21:54 AM
Next you'll say you're a decendant of Prince Madoc.  :rolleyes: :P
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Martinus on December 30, 2012, 02:31:56 AM
I'm torn between South Slavs and East Slavs.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 30, 2012, 03:02:41 AM
East Slavs are gangsters and dictators, and have hott girls.  South Slavs are sex trafficers and ethnic cleansers, and have less hott girls.  South Slavs slightly worse.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Martinus on December 30, 2012, 03:52:09 AM
This is my problem - South Slavs have hotter guys.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: merithyn on December 30, 2012, 09:09:39 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 30, 2012, 02:21:54 AM
Next you'll say you're a decendant of Prince Madoc.  :rolleyes: :P


Seriously doubt it since my people were all coal miners and laborers. :P
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Neil on December 30, 2012, 09:41:57 AM
Quote from: merithyn on December 30, 2012, 02:16:06 AM
I was raised Mexican. My blood is Welsh. My friends call me Welshican. :P
I think that how you were raised is more important than your bloodline.  Look at BB.  Even though his blood is that of the Slav, he is not inferior (although he is a lawyer, which is evil).  He thinks and acts like a regular human, which means that he is a regular human.  Culture is the key component, which is why multiculturalism is the greatest evil imaginable.  Not only are we importing inferiority into civilized countries, but we're also robbing inferior people of the chance to become real humans.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on December 30, 2012, 10:05:30 AM
Quote from: Barrister on December 29, 2012, 07:31:54 PM
For whatever positives the French have going for them, it still doesn't take them out of the cellar of europe.

Modern Italians and Greeks aren't even white, so they don't qualify for your poll.

Well, I'd argue I detest the French as much as any other guy who has a father with basically straight English ancestry and a German mother (combining two ethnic groups both with a strong hatred of the French has imbued me with a genetic hatred for the Francophone world), but I can't look past their accomplishments. They've been a power center in Europe for a thousand years, French was the language of culture and diplomacy for generations, their culinary and cultural influences were imitated by the aristocracy of much of the rest of the continent and etc. They had a proper colonial empire, and won many wars.

To me that's just a different sphere than groups like the Irish, whose greatest accomplishment is a string of deeply alcoholic literary figures and Jameson.

The Italians in the modern sense are pretty embarrassing, but I give them some points because Italy was by far the most civilized part of Europe up until probably the 1700s, and in many ways helped to preserve certain civilized behaviors. Not to mention, as an author I read recently has, French architecture and many other cultural traditions that were spread around Europe were actually originally Italian inspire. French Kings hired Italians for art, architecture and etc and then later exported it to the rest of Europe, so again it's hard for me to put Italians on the list of worst white ethnic group.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: PDH on December 30, 2012, 09:16:52 PM
I think that the people from Utah are probably the worst.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Razgovory on December 30, 2012, 09:26:23 PM
I kinda like the French.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Ed Anger on December 30, 2012, 09:41:36 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 30, 2012, 09:26:23 PM
I kinda like the French.

They are Americans with a funny accent and without a gun fetish.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 30, 2012, 09:49:24 PM
Meh, I love the French.  Yeah, they can be a bit obnoxious, but so can we.  They're proud, independent, have a wicked and invaluable intelligence apparatus that has eclipsed the Brits in the Middle East and Africa, and have a foreign policy with an operational tempo exceeded only by ourselves.

Problem between the French and Americans is that we're more alike than either side wants to admit.  It's a sibling thing, two countries holding conflicting patents on who invented modern democracy.

I blame Genet.  No, not that asshole, the other one.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Ed Anger on December 30, 2012, 10:00:19 PM
They let you climb on their tanks on Bastille day.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 30, 2012, 10:01:10 PM
Now see, what's not to like?
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Ed Anger on December 30, 2012, 10:02:49 PM
Don't eat the pizza though.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Valmy on December 31, 2012, 02:59:02 AM
Quote from: Barrister on December 29, 2012, 12:41:50 PM
The French. <_<

Eastern Slavs then  :blurgh:
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Caliga on January 01, 2013, 08:38:17 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 30, 2012, 09:49:24 PM
I blame Genet.  No, not that asshole, the other one.
I blame De Gaulle.  I think most modern Francophobia in America probably stems from his idiocy.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Strix on January 01, 2013, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: mongers on December 29, 2012, 03:44:08 PM
ManU  fans ?  :bowler:


Glory, glory, Man United,
Glory, glory, Man United,
Glory, glory, Man United,
And the reds go marching on, on, on.
Just like the Busby Babes in Days gone by
We'll keep the Red Flags flying high
You've got to see yourself from far and wide
You've got to hear the masses sing with pride
United! Man United!
We're the boys in Red and we're on our way to Wem-ber-ly
Wem-ber-ly! Wem-ber-ly!
We're the famous Man United and we're going to Wem-ber-ly
Wem-ber-ly! Wem-ber-ly!
We're the famous Man United and we're going to Wem-ber-ly
In Seventy-Seven it was Docherty
Atkinson will make it Eighty-Three
And everyone will know just who we are
They'll be singing 'Que Sera Sera'
United! Man United!
We're the boys in Red and we're on our way to Wem-ber-ly
Wem-ber-ly! Wem-ber-ly!
We're the famous Man United and we're going to Wem-ber-ly
Wem-ber-ly! Wem-ber-ly!
We're the famous Man United and we're going to Wem-ber-ly
Glory Glory Man United
Glory Glory Man United
Glory Glory Man United
As the Spurs Go Marching On! On! On!
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Scipio on January 01, 2013, 03:09:27 PM
Excuse me, where are the Franks?  What the fuck have they done for civilization, besides drive it needlessly towards the cliff?
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: garbon on January 02, 2013, 09:38:43 AM
Quote from: Scipio on January 01, 2013, 03:09:27 PM
Excuse me, where are the Franks?  What the fuck have they done for civilization, besides drive it needlessly towards the cliff?

Trying reading the first page of posts?
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Razgovory on January 02, 2013, 09:58:04 AM
What have the Franks done?
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Valmy on January 02, 2013, 10:07:22 AM
Quote from: Caliga on January 01, 2013, 08:38:17 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 30, 2012, 09:49:24 PM
I blame Genet.  No, not that asshole, the other one.
I blame De Gaulle.  I think most modern Francophobia in America probably stems from his idiocy.

The US was a major blind spot for De Gaulle he did not understand us.  He was sure we would withdraw back into isolationism at any minute and that Europe should not rely on us and look to its own defense and the tell the US to fuckoff before we left them in the lurch. 

It was also personal (well ok it was primarily personal), he never forgave the US for kissing up to the Vichy assholes no matter how much that made sense from our perspective.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Admiral Yi on January 02, 2013, 03:04:18 PM
De Gaulle's main beef was that we treated him like an exile general leading 3,000 troops we had to arm ourselves rather than a God Emperor.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Valmy on January 02, 2013, 03:37:37 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 02, 2013, 03:04:18 PM
De Gaulle's main beef was that we treated him like an exile general leading 3,000 troops we had to arm ourselves rather than a God Emperor.

Sort of.  We basically just ignored him and did things like plan an occupation of France when we landed (which the French just ignored and went along with DeGaulle) and force him to accept Vichy colleagues and so forth.  I am not going to say we did right by him, but yeah he also had a massive ego and we bruised it plenty and that is the main thing.

The British knew the truth of it (and the American people for that matter), that he was the leader of France.  The US government never accepted that until they absolutely had to, and again it was personal they thought it was a more prudent strategy to try to work through Vichy since they seemed to actually hold the levers of power (which was a policy that presumed the Vichyites were more than the pathetic stooges they were).  DeGaulle took that personally and got pissed and Roosevelt and company likewise got pissed at him and off it went.  It got personal and counter-productive.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Neil on January 02, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
Wasn't the leader of France Adolf Hitler?
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Valmy on January 02, 2013, 04:49:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 02, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
Wasn't the leader of France Adolf Hitler?

Heh.  Only de facto.  The question was who was the leader once that state of affairs ended.  The Brits went with DeGaulle and his gang without a better option, we went with Vichy.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Scipio on January 02, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
Scots-Irish, if only for secession.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 02, 2013, 08:12:05 PM
Quote from: Scipio on January 02, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
Scots-Irish

:mad:
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Razgovory on January 02, 2013, 08:13:01 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 02, 2013, 08:12:05 PM
Quote from: Scipio on January 02, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
Scots-Irish

:mad:

Well to be fair, it should also include the Welsh as well.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Valmy on January 02, 2013, 08:37:12 PM
Quote from: Scipio on January 02, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
Scots-Irish, if only for secession.

Huh?  Appalachia was against secession generally.  Unless you mean the actual Northern Irish here  :P
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Scipio on January 02, 2013, 11:15:17 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 02, 2013, 08:37:12 PM
Quote from: Scipio on January 02, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
Scots-Irish, if only for secession.

Huh?  Appalachia was against secession generally.  Unless you mean the actual Northern Irish here  :P
I mean the Scots-Irish in Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, Missouri, and Tennessee.  And the dirty Welsh bastards, too.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Razgovory on January 02, 2013, 11:17:04 PM
Missouri didn't leave the Union.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: PDH on January 02, 2013, 11:48:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 02, 2013, 11:17:04 PM
Missouri didn't leave the Union.

Only because General Lyon kicked Missouri ass.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 02, 2013, 11:50:13 PM
The Union should have left Missouri.
Title: Re: What is the worst white ethnic group?
Post by: Razgovory on January 03, 2013, 12:50:41 AM
Quote from: PDH on January 02, 2013, 11:48:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 02, 2013, 11:17:04 PM
Missouri didn't leave the Union.

Only because General Lyon kicked Missouri ass.

With the help of proud German Americans.  I had ancestors who served in those armies.  It's a terrible tragedy that Lyon died so early.  He was an aggressive and energetic general, and with those impressive early strategic victories under his belt he could have been chosen to lead the Army of the Potomac.