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Title: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 26, 2012, 10:12:01 PM
He's been in the hospital for a month, and at his age that seems a sure sign the end is near. A great patriot and an underrated president.  :(

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Ex-President-Bush-in-guarded-condition-in-ICU-4147280.php

QuoteBush 41 in 'guarded condition' in ICU
By Erin Mulvaney | December 26, 2012 | Updated: December 26, 2012 8:53pm

Former President George H.W. Bush was in the intensive care unit of a Houston hospital Wednesday night after battling a persistent fever all week, his spokesman said.

The 41st president has been at Methodist Hospital for more than a month now.

Jim McGrath, Bush's spokesman in Houston, said the 88-year-old's fever rose on Wednesday, but doctors at Methodist Hospital report he is doing better than the day before. He was admitted to the ICU on Sunday and since has been on an all-liquid diet.

"He is considered in guarded condition," McGrath said. "He has suffered a series of setbacks." The fever is being treated with Tylenol, but it's not responding to the treatment.

McGrath was not sure what caused the fever.

McGrath said Bush is alert, having a "running banter'' with his nurses and is surrounded by family. "His doctors have said emphatically this is not the end game," McGrath said.

Bush has had various health problems in recent years.

In February, it was reported that he had been diagnosed with lower body Parkinsonism, a condition that causes instability from the waist down. As a result, he mostly uses a wheelchair.

On Nov. 7, he was admitted to the hospital for a lingering bronchitis-like cough and was discharged Nov. 19. He was then readmitted the day after Thanksgiving, when the cough wouldn't go away. He has been in the hospital since.

Bush spent Christmas Day in the hospital with his wife, Barbara, and several family members who live in Houston. The family ordered food from Gigi's Asian Bistro in the Galleria, where they traditionally eat on Christmas Day. The president was unable to partake because of his all-liquid diet, McGrath said.

Two sons — former President George W. Bush and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush — have visited him during his hospital stay and are planning to visit again soon.

Bush and his wife reside in Houston during the winter and spend their summers in Kennebunkport, Maine.

Bush was born in Milton, Mass., on June 12, 1924. His father, Prescott Sheldon Bush, was an investment banker who later became a Republican senator from Connecticut, serving from 1952 to 1963. His mother, Dorothy Walker Bush, came from a St. Louis investment banking family.

Bush enlisted in the Navy when he was 18 and was a naval aviator in World War II. At 24, he and his wife, Barbara, moved to Texas.

The oldest living former president, Bush, is also a former vice president, congressman and CIA director. He served as president from 1989 to 1993.

He achieved notoriety in retirement for skydiving on at least three of his birthdays since leaving the White House.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: HVC on December 26, 2012, 10:27:21 PM
with the candle stick?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Caliga on December 26, 2012, 10:45:42 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 26, 2012, 10:12:01 PM
an underrated president.  :(
Agree.  Get well, Poppy. :(
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: merithyn on December 27, 2012, 09:24:15 AM
He's lived a very long, very full life and he's done amazing things. I hope that he gets better, but if he doesn't, he's earned his rest.

:(
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: DGuller on December 27, 2012, 10:10:50 AM
 :( If you don't pray for him, you're not patriotic.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on December 27, 2012, 10:33:12 AM
The last true Republican President, I remember thinking he was adequate at the time but as a traditional Republican in a world that has been ravaged by the Tea Party, Religious Right, and the Neocons I've come to have an immense amount of respect to the balanced approach he took to governing, his skill at foreign relations, and his willingness to do what he thought was best for the country regardless of the political ramifications or the wailing of extremists in his own party.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: derspiess on December 27, 2012, 10:36:42 AM
He wasn't looking all that well in his recorded interview shown during the convention.  Hope he can pull through but yeah, if he doesn't he's certainly earned his rest.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Caliga on December 27, 2012, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on December 27, 2012, 10:33:12 AM
The last true Republican President, I remember thinking he was adequate at the time but as a traditional Republican in a world that has been ravaged by the Tea Party, Religious Right, and the Neocons I've come to have an immense amount of respect to the balanced approach he took to governing, his skill at foreign relations, and his willingness to do what he thought was best for the country regardless of the political ramifications or the wailing of extremists in his own party.
I agree with the above.  :hug:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 27, 2012, 10:37:14 AM
I've always thought he was a good president.

A bit on the weenie side, but nature gave him that voice, he didn't choose it.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: sbr on December 27, 2012, 12:03:33 PM
I hope he makes it through the week.  He was my first round pick in the 2013 Dead Pool and I can't afford to lose him before it starts.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 12:05:29 PM
I wonder if he's checking his watch now.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: DGuller on December 27, 2012, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 12:05:29 PM
I wonder if he's checking his watch now.
:XD:  Seedy, you're so terrible.  Please don't change. :hug:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Sheilbh on December 27, 2012, 01:13:34 PM
I can't think of a wiser or more competent foreign policy President - at all.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 02:24:55 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 27, 2012, 01:13:34 PM
I can't think of a wiser or more competent foreign policy President - at all.

I dunno, mixed bag: he played the Soviets and the coup very well, and GW1 was a masterpiece in collective security action, but his response to Tiananmen Square left a lot to be desired, as was his response to the Balkans early in the crisis.  Lame duck deployment of troops to Somalia less than a month before his term ended wasnt exactly the best policy decision to leave an incoming President with, either.

First President I ever voted for; didnt realize at the time it would be for the last of the real, traditional Republicans.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 27, 2012, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 02:24:55 PM
I dunno, mixed bag: he played the Soviets and the coup very well, and GW1 was a masterpiece in collective security action, but his response to Tiananmen Square left a lot to be desired, as was his response to the Balkans early in the crisis.

Please elaborate.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 05:04:26 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 27, 2012, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 02:24:55 PM
I dunno, mixed bag: he played the Soviets and the coup very well, and GW1 was a masterpiece in collective security action, but his response to Tiananmen Square left a lot to be desired, as was his response to the Balkans early in the crisis.

Please elaborate.

His Administration's response to the Balkans early in the crisis left a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: derspiess on December 27, 2012, 05:06:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 05:04:26 PM
His Administration's response to the Balkans early in the crisis left a lot to be desired.

Go on.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 27, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Permission to treat the witness as hostile and unresponsive.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Sheilbh on December 27, 2012, 05:10:41 PM
I think Tianamen was an example of his wisdom. I don't think there's enough of a Balkans policy to judge.

Agree on Somalia but I imagine that that was done in negotiations with the Clinton team.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: derspiess on December 27, 2012, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 27, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Permission to treat the witness as hostile and unresponsive.

Granted.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: merithyn on December 27, 2012, 05:18:52 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 27, 2012, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 27, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Permission to treat the witness as hostile and unresponsive.

Granted.

I object! This judge is compromised and cannot be counted on for a fair and honest opinion on the matter at hand!
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: DGuller on December 27, 2012, 05:20:02 PM
Quote from: merithyn on December 27, 2012, 05:18:52 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 27, 2012, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 27, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Permission to treat the witness as hostile and unresponsive.

Granted.

I object! This judge is compromised and cannot be counted on for a fair and honest opinion on the matter at hand!
Sustained.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: derspiess on December 27, 2012, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 27, 2012, 05:20:02 PM
Quote from: merithyn on December 27, 2012, 05:18:52 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 27, 2012, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 27, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Permission to treat the witness as hostile and unresponsive.

Granted.

I object! This judge is compromised and cannot be counted on for a fair and honest opinion on the matter at hand!
Sustained.

Both of you are removed from the courtroom.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: DGuller on December 27, 2012, 05:29:36 PM
Objection!  Your honor, you're in contempt of court.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Razgovory on December 27, 2012, 05:30:28 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 27, 2012, 05:10:41 PM
I think Tianamen was an example of his wisdom. I don't think there's enough of a Balkans policy to judge.

Agree on Somalia but I imagine that that was done in negotiations with the Clinton team.

Eh, I'm with Shelf here.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Neil on December 27, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 27, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Permission to treat the witness as hostile and unresponsive.
Hostile sure, but Seedy is rarely unresponsive.

It's been twenty years since he was president.  We all forget things from that far back.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Jacob on December 27, 2012, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 27, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
Hostile sure, but Seedy is rarely unresponsive.

It's been twenty years since he was president.  We all forget things from that far back.

Now I'm imagining what the US would be like with Seedy as president...
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Tonitrus on December 27, 2012, 07:59:57 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 27, 2012, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 27, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
Hostile sure, but Seedy is rarely unresponsive.

It's been twenty years since he was president.  We all forget things from that far back.

Now I'm imagining what the US would be like with Seedy as president...

The Secretary of Defense declaring war on China...

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popehat.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F02%2Fsocks-the-cat.jpg&hash=95f4f52108fcec5f472d82172f8ac9b8da05158c)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: mongers on December 27, 2012, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 27, 2012, 07:59:57 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 27, 2012, 07:00:46 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 27, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
Hostile sure, but Seedy is rarely unresponsive.

It's been twenty years since he was president.  We all forget things from that far back.

Now I'm imagining what the US would be like with Seedy as president...

The Secretary of Defense declaring war on China...

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popehat.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F02%2Fsocks-the-cat.jpg&hash=95f4f52108fcec5f472d82172f8ac9b8da05158c)

:lol:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Razgovory on December 27, 2012, 08:10:35 PM
Good old Socks. 
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 08:13:41 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 27, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 27, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Permission to treat the witness as hostile and unresponsive.
Hostile sure, but Seedy is rarely unresponsive.

I don't need to rehash this argument.  It's been spelled out enough over the years on Languish. 
The lack of diplomatic initiative and resolve in the face of Serbian atrocities in NATO's own back yard is well established, and Bush loses points on it.
Can marshal the world to unite against Hussein's aggression with Kuwait, but can't get NATO to deal with genocide in its own backyard.  If only Croats were made of oil.

So, fuck all you Serb lovers.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Neil on December 27, 2012, 09:29:26 PM
Bush knew that the Balkans weren't worth the bones of a single American grenadier, or an F-117, or a Tomahawk.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 09:33:56 PM
But dune coons that insult each others' mustaches and throw shoes at each other while fucking little boys are.  Roger that.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Ed Anger on December 27, 2012, 09:35:46 PM
The Balkans are europe's responibility, a mission they failed in.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Neil on December 27, 2012, 09:39:53 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 09:33:56 PM
But dune coons that insult each others' mustaches and throw shoes at each other while fucking little boys are.  Roger that.
If Europe and Japan run out of sweet, cheap Arab oil, the US would be in dire straits.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Tonitrus on December 27, 2012, 09:47:28 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 27, 2012, 09:35:46 PM
The Balkans are europe's responibility, a mission they failed in.

What was Europe's last successful mission? :hmm:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 09:59:27 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 27, 2012, 09:47:28 PM
What was Europe's last successful mission? :hmm:

Auschwitz.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Neil on December 27, 2012, 10:02:29 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 27, 2012, 09:47:28 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 27, 2012, 09:35:46 PM
The Balkans are europe's responibility, a mission they failed in.

What was Europe's last successful mission? :hmm:
Depends on if you consider the British efforts in the Falklands as European.

FU CdM.  Exclusion Zone FTW.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Syt on December 28, 2012, 12:40:25 AM
Quote from: Neil on December 27, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
Hostile sure, but Seedy is rarely unresponsive.

It's been twenty years since he was president.  We all forget things from that far back.

Agreed on Seedy, but what about Bush?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Phillip V on December 28, 2012, 01:30:54 AM
1992 minus Ross Perot

GHWB win?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Fireblade on December 28, 2012, 01:33:08 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on December 28, 2012, 01:30:54 AM
1992 minus Ross Perot

GHWB win?

Clinton landslide.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: The Brain on December 28, 2012, 04:44:59 AM
Get better, Alois Bush. :)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: Scipio on January 01, 2013, 03:16:17 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 27, 2012, 09:39:53 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 27, 2012, 09:33:56 PM
But dune coons that insult each others' mustaches and throw shoes at each other while fucking little boys are.  Roger that.
If Europe and Japan run out of sweet, cheap Arab oil, the US would be in dire straits.
But it's written in the starlight, and every line in your palm, we're fools to make war on our brothers in arms....
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush in ICU
Post by: PDH on January 01, 2013, 03:37:39 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on December 28, 2012, 01:30:54 AM
1992 minus Ross Perot

GHWB win?

Perot split the voter - according to the exit polls he drew equally from Republican and Democrats in the exit polls (iirc).  Net result would have been the same.