Poll
Question:
Who would you vote for
Option 1: Theodore Roosevelt - Progressive Party
votes: 18
Option 2: Woodrow Wilson - Democratic Party
votes: 3
Option 3: William H. Taft - Republican Party
votes: 7
Option 4: Eugene V. Debs - Socialist Party
votes: 9
Who would you vote for in America's most interesting election.
I voted TR but then thought, he'd probably get the US involved in WWI.
1824 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1824) has 1912 beat. Four candidates won electoral votes. The eventual winner didn't win the electoral college or the popular vote.
Prediction: BB votes for Taft
What are the platforms of the candidates?
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 14, 2012, 09:40:48 AM
What are the platforms of the candidates?
Taft's platform was triple reinforced.
Quote from: frunk on November 14, 2012, 09:34:20 AM
1824 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1824) has 1912 beat. Four candidates won electoral votes. The eventual winner didn't win the electoral college or the popular vote.
Interesting is a subjective thing.
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 14, 2012, 09:40:48 AM
What are the platforms of the candidates?
TR- Bashing other countries with our big stick
Wilson- Racism
Taft- Robber Baronism
Debs- Bomb throwing
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 14, 2012, 09:40:48 AM
What are the platforms of the candidates?
Progressive platform
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=29617
Democratic platform
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=29590
Republican Platform
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=29633
Socialist Platform
http://www.academicamerican.com/progressive/docs/SocialistPlat1912.htm
TR of course. But yeah he probably would have put our boys on the Western Front sometime in July 1914.
Of course the war really would have been over before the leaves fall if that had happened. :P
Did TR act in bad faith as far as Taft was concerned?
Quote from: Valmy on November 14, 2012, 10:02:01 AM
TR of course. But yeah he probably would have put our boys on the Western Front sometime in July 1914.
Of course the war really would have been over before the leaves fall if that had happened. :P
He would probably have us hip deep in a major intervention into the Mexican Civil War by that time, so I doubt it.
The Germans wouldn't have provoked us nearly so much with him in charge either I think.
Quote from: Gups on November 14, 2012, 10:04:50 AM
Did TR act in bad faith as far as Taft was concerned?
Kind of. TR took their policy differences personally and publicly humiliated Taft. It's ironic because Taft didn't actually want to be president and only ran in 1908 because of heavy pressure from TR and and Taft's wife. If TR had approached Taft privately and politely, Taft might have withdrawn for a promise of a Supreme court appointment. Insulting him in the newspapers on the other hand predictably made Taft determined to fight it out to the bitter end.
All in all it would have been much better for both of them if TR had run in 1908. Taft would have been appointed Chief Justice in 1910.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 14, 2012, 09:32:13 AM
I voted TR but then thought, he'd probably get the US involved in WWI.
The question is who would you vote now, not who did you vote for in 1912. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Barrister on November 14, 2012, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 14, 2012, 09:37:32 AM
Prediction: BB votes for Taft
:thumbsup:
Taft's policies were far more right wing than the Canadian conservative party is today.
Quote from: Martinus on November 14, 2012, 10:33:03 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 14, 2012, 09:32:13 AM
I voted TR but then thought, he'd probably get the US involved in WWI.
The question is who would you vote now, not who did you vote for in 1912. :rolleyes:
That's not how it's phrased.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 14, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
Quote from: Barrister on November 14, 2012, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 14, 2012, 09:37:32 AM
Prediction: BB votes for Taft
:thumbsup:
Taft's policies were far more right wing than the Canadian conservative party is today.
Which is convenient since I am more right wing than the Canadian conservative party is today. The tone of the budget update yesterday was shameful. <_<
Power as corrupted the Conservative in the weirdest way.
Take a wild guess.
Quote from: katmai on November 14, 2012, 12:19:30 PM
Take a wild guess.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Ff%2Ffb%2FWilson_The_Volleyball.jpg&hash=612c2d6dc41e9817a95202543db0ca7f94dd2c39)
What retard chose Wilson? :yuk:
Explain yourself!
He'll keep us out of war!
I didn't vote Wilson though.
Taft was the only proper choice, because of his naval construction policy. :dreadnought:
Quote from: frunk on November 14, 2012, 09:34:20 AM
1824 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1824) has 1912 beat. Four candidates won electoral votes. The eventual winner didn't win the electoral college or the popular vote.
I support corrupt bargains.
Quote from: Neil on November 14, 2012, 12:51:26 PM
Taft was the only proper choice, because of his naval construction policy. :dreadnought:
TR built the White Fleet! How was he not dreadnought friendly?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 14, 2012, 05:21:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 14, 2012, 12:51:26 PM
Taft was the only proper choice, because of his naval construction policy. :dreadnought:
TR built the White Fleet! How was he not dreadnought friendly?
Have you counted the dreadnoughts in the white fleet?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 14, 2012, 05:21:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 14, 2012, 12:51:26 PM
Taft was the only proper choice, because of his naval construction policy. :dreadnought:
TR built the White Fleet! How was he not dreadnought friendly?
Then why doesn't he say anything about it in his platform? Taft is the only candidate who is explicitly for an increase in naval armaments.
Quote from: Threviel on November 14, 2012, 05:36:41 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 14, 2012, 05:21:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 14, 2012, 12:51:26 PM
Taft was the only proper choice, because of his naval construction policy. :dreadnought:
TR built the White Fleet! How was he not dreadnought friendly?
Have you counted the dreadnoughts in the white fleet?
They were built right before that transition. The first American dreadnought, the South Carolina was already fitting out as the fleet left.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 14, 2012, 05:44:03 PM
Quote from: Threviel on November 14, 2012, 05:36:41 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 14, 2012, 05:21:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 14, 2012, 12:51:26 PM
Taft was the only proper choice, because of his naval construction policy. :dreadnought:
TR built the White Fleet! How was he not dreadnought friendly?
Have you counted the dreadnoughts in the white fleet?
They were built right before that transition. The first American dreadnought, the South Carolina was already fitting out as the fleet left.
Yeah, but the South Carolinas were terrible, terrible designs.