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Title: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: mongers on September 25, 2012, 07:11:22 PM
Didn't know these were so dangerous, certainly more so than a garden hose:

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US doctors say trampolines are a danger to kids
By Emily Selvadurai
BBC News

US doctors say children should be discouraged from using trampolines because they are a health hazard.

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) estimates that almost 98,000 people are injured each year in the US on trampolines and many of these are children.

UK safety experts say the sport is growing in popularity here and related injuries are on the rise.

But they say trampolining can be a healthy way to exercise and good fun.

The renewed advice from the AAP says paediatricians need to "actively discourage" recreational trampoline use.

Dr Michele LaBotz, who co-authored the AAP report said: "Families need to know that many injuries occur on the mat itself, and current data do not appear to demonstrate that netting or padding significantly decrease the risk of injury."

The researchers found that most injuries occur when more than one person is on a trampoline.

Children under five are more likely to suffer serious injury, with 48% of injuries in this group resulting in fractures and dislocations.

Some injuries may even be fatal - failed attempts at somersaults and flips frequently cause cervical spine injuries, resulting in permanent and devastating consequences, says the AAP
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Rest of article here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19713691 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19713691)


Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Phillip V on September 25, 2012, 07:15:19 PM
Send the 33% of children who are obese/overweight to jump on the trampolines until they break.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Neil on September 25, 2012, 07:25:03 PM
This sort of thing is why progressives drive me nuts.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Razgovory on September 25, 2012, 07:46:24 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 25, 2012, 07:25:03 PM
This sort of thing is why progressives drive me nuts.

Doctors.  These are doctors.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: mongers on September 25, 2012, 07:48:16 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 25, 2012, 07:46:24 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 25, 2012, 07:25:03 PM
This sort of thing is why progressives drive me nuts.

Doctors.  These are doctors.

And I must say that's a surprsingly high number of hospitalised injuries,whether in the USA or over here; I wonder what the per hour risk is, assuming American children don't spend 6-8 hours a day on the things.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 25, 2012, 07:49:41 PM
Not surprising.  Alot of insurance companies will cut off coverage if a house has a trampoline. 
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: sbr on September 25, 2012, 08:15:53 PM
Trampolines are almost as dangerous as pinatas.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Ed Anger on September 25, 2012, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 25, 2012, 08:15:53 PM
Trampolines are almost as dangerous as pinatas.

Ugh, pinatas. Might as well have the first aid kit handy. A kid is either gonna get hurt with the stick or diving for the candy.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 25, 2012, 08:41:56 PM
Trampolines are apparently safe enough for dogs, though.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: mongers on September 25, 2012, 09:17:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 25, 2012, 08:41:56 PM
Trampolines are apparently safe enough for dogs, though.

[Cal/]

Yeah and I seem to recall, they're pretty safe for large breasted women, as well.

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Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Tonitrus on September 25, 2012, 09:28:54 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 25, 2012, 09:17:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 25, 2012, 08:41:56 PM
Trampolines are apparently safe enough for dogs, though.

[Cal/]

Yeah and I seem to recall, they're pretty safe for large breasted women, as well.

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Only because they use them in slow motion.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Phillip V on September 25, 2012, 10:44:54 PM
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Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Barrister on September 25, 2012, 11:53:03 PM
umm... trampolines are pretty darn dangerous in fact...
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on September 26, 2012, 01:17:01 AM
Yes, I came pretty close to injuring myself quite severely on a trampoline once. Large-breasted women, on the other hand, are perfectly safe  :cool:

My kids had a trampolining craze a while back, but went to a sports centre and had proper instruction on properly-maintained equipment.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Grey Fox on September 26, 2012, 07:40:50 AM
My nephew broke his arm on a trampoline in early July this year.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: mongers on September 26, 2012, 01:21:07 PM
If those statistics are to believed, then why is no one campaigning for helmet, and for that matter other body armour/neck protection, to be made mandatory for those using trampolines.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: The Brain on September 26, 2012, 01:27:48 PM
The state's view of risk is incredibly immature. And that means we spend billions on the wrong things for childish reasons instead of reducing risk in a rational way.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: mongers on September 26, 2012, 02:09:27 PM
Best safety tip I've seen so far:

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If possible, lower the height to ground level by putting the trampoline in a pit
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: dps on September 26, 2012, 02:16:40 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 26, 2012, 01:27:48 PM
The state's view of risk is incredibly immature. And that means we spend billions on the wrong things for childish reasons instead of reducing risk in a rational way.

From what I've seen the government's basic view often is, if something has happened, ever, that someone was injuried doing, if a lot of people are raising a big fuss over it in the media, then it's something risky enough that it needs to be regulated.  If there's not a lot of people raising a big fuss about it in the media, it's not risky enough to be regulated, even if more injuries and deaths have occured from it than from other things that are having a fuss raised about in the media.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on September 27, 2012, 02:21:29 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 25, 2012, 07:15:19 PM
Send the 33% of children who are obese/overweight to jump on the trampolines until they break.

the children or the trampolines?
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 27, 2012, 05:52:47 AM
Quote from: dps on September 26, 2012, 02:16:40 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 26, 2012, 01:27:48 PM
The state's view of risk is incredibly immature. And that means we spend billions on the wrong things for childish reasons instead of reducing risk in a rational way.

From what I've seen the government's basic view often is, if something has happened, ever, that someone was injuried doing, if a lot of people are raising a big fuss over it in the media, then it's something risky enough that it needs to be regulated.  If there's not a lot of people raising a big fuss about it in the media, it's not risky enough to be regulated, even if more injuries and deaths have occured from it than from other things that are having a fuss raised about in the media.
I think that's caused more by legislators who want their name on a bill than any desire on govmint bureaucrats to regulate the shit out of everything.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: sbr on September 27, 2012, 07:30:55 AM
How did this get to be about government?  This was a group of doctors who said trampolines are very unsafe, which is true.
Title: Re: Will No One Think Of The Children Pt23
Post by: Phillip V on September 27, 2012, 08:28:41 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on September 27, 2012, 02:21:29 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 25, 2012, 07:15:19 PM
Send the 33% of children who are obese/overweight to jump on the trampolines until they break.

the children or the trampolines?
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