Ok, we laugh at various LeBrons and Daiquishas, but what's up with names of some white, right wing guys? I mean, Grover Norquist? What the hell is that? And Reince Priebus sounds like an anagram.
Why are these guys named in a such bizarre fashion?
Grover is a bit old-fashioned, but there's nothing wrong with that. Reince OTOH sounds retarded.
Grover is an old name.
Reince might be a nickname like Mitts.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 15, 2012, 12:42:53 PM
Grover is a bit old-fashioned, but there's nothing wrong with that. Reince OTOH sounds retarded.
Well, to me it's no different than LeBron. I mean in Polish you could also name your son an old-fashioned "Bozydar" or "Msciwoj" but that's just retarded.
Using old names >>>>>>>>>>>>> making your own
Besides, Grover's not that out-dated. Sesame Street is less than 50 years old.
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 15, 2012, 12:48:12 PM
Using old names >>>>>>>>>>>>> making your own
Besides, Grover's not that out-dated. Sesame Street is less than 50 years old.
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Naming your child Big Bird would be equally retarded. :P
Victorian names are back in style in the US, so expect a lot of names like Grover in the near future.
Reince, on the other hand, is... unique. I'm not even sure how to pronounce it. :unsure:
Quote from: Martinus on August 15, 2012, 12:48:49 PM
Naming your child Big Bird would be equally retarded. :P
Sure, but what about Oscar, Bert or Ernie?
Plugged the name Reince into some baby name sites - nothing.
His religion is listed as Greek Orthodox. Perhaps it's some kind of oddball Armenian / Middle Eastern name. Assyrian?
Our generation is terrible at naming our children. That's just how we are. It's not as bad as the terrible shit the baby boomers did to the world, but it's bad.
Old fashioned names are back in fashion in Britain too, lots of Alfies, Harrys, Rosies and Florences.
Still not as weird as Grover, Willard, Orrin and the rest of Palin's children :huh:
Quote from: Barrister on August 15, 2012, 12:58:50 PM
Plugged the name Reince into some baby name sites - nothing.
His religion is listed as Greek Orthodox. Perhaps it's some kind of oddball Armenian / Middle Eastern name. Assyrian?
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/01/what_kind_of_a_name_is_reince.html
These fashions are weird. For example I was born during an "ordinary names" trend, when people would name their kids normal names like Marcin (Martin), Piotr (Peter) or Andrzej (Andrew) - there were several of each in my class.
Then came the fashion for weird (from a Polish perspective) names inspired by tv shows and Western culture - so we had Olivias and Olivers, Blakes and the like.
Now there seems to be a fashion for old fashioned Polish named such as Stanislas or Wladyslaw.
Quote from: derspiess on August 15, 2012, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 15, 2012, 12:58:50 PM
Plugged the name Reince into some baby name sites - nothing.
His religion is listed as Greek Orthodox. Perhaps it's some kind of oddball Armenian / Middle Eastern name. Assyrian?
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/01/what_kind_of_a_name_is_reince.html
This sounds (and he looks) like something out of True Blood.
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 15, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
Old fashioned names are back in fashion in Britain too, lots of Alfies, Harrys, Rosies and Florences.
Still not as weird as Grover, Willard, Orrin and the rest of Palin's children :huh:
My best friend bravely named his son Henry.
I sort of had to talk my wife into William Thomas (Tommy) for our son. We named our daughter Lola, a name which quite a few people in our area had never heard of.
I'm lucky. My family's Irish in Britain and so we generally just churn out reliably Celtically named children :lol:
You see the same in Scotland acually with names like Euan, Alexander, Callum etc. being constantly popular, because they're Scottish. It means they avoid some of the weirder trends like this retro vogue, though I do quite like some of those names.
Quote from: derspiess on August 15, 2012, 01:58:20 PM
We named our daughter Lola, a name which quite a few people in our area had never heard of.
Not Kinks fans.
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 15, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
Still not as weird as Grover, Willard, Orrin and the rest of Palin's children :huh:
Palin's children's names are in the same class and deserve all the same opprobrium as a LeBron or Na Cola.
And Grover Norquist, Willard Scott(or Romney I guess?), and Orrin Hatch are all old men, so don't reflect current naming trends.
I've always felt sorry for George Osborne who changed his name to George by deed poll when very young. His parent's named him Gideon, which is tough for any child (you can't even shorten it) but particularly when you're not even Jewish :lol:
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Quote from: derspiess on August 15, 2012, 01:58:20 PM
We named our daughter Lola, a name which quite a few people in our area had never heard of.
Not Kinks fans.
Apparently not.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 15, 2012, 02:00:58 PM
Palin's children's names are in the same class and deserve all the same opprobrium as a LeBron or Na Cola.
Disagree. They're silly, but at least they are actual words.
Quote from: derspiess on August 15, 2012, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 15, 2012, 02:00:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 15, 2012, 01:58:20 PM
We named our daughter Lola, a name which quite a few people in our area had never heard of.
Not Kinks fans.
Apparently not.
Apparently no-one in America is. NBC cut Ray Davies singing Waterloo Sunset from the closing ceremony <_<
That was one of the few good bits too :(
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 15, 2012, 03:01:59 PM
Apparently no-one in America is. NBC cut Ray Davies singing Waterloo Sunset from the closing ceremony <_<
That was one of the few good bits too :(
The only good thing I saw in the closing ceremony was Madness. Wife's heart was aflutter when she saw Bowie.
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 15, 2012, 03:01:59 PM
Apparently no-one in America is. NBC cut Ray Davies singing Waterloo Sunset from the closing ceremony <_<
The Kinks are really ultra-British from an American standpoint; no good entry point like the Who.
Quote
That was one of the few good bits too :(
They didn't cut the Pet Shop Boys riding around in cone hats! :bowler:
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 15, 2012, 04:08:41 PM
They didn't cut the Pet Shop Boys riding around in cone hats! :bowler:
:w00t: :wub:
My favourite moment of the opening ceremony was the bemused look on the Chinese delegations face as they walked out to West End Girls :lol:
Quote from: derspiess on August 15, 2012, 02:56:18 PM
Disagree. They're silly, but at least they are actual words.
Willow and Bristol are semi-ok. Track and Trig are :bleeding: worthy.
Piper was an established name so no points off for that one.
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Quote from: derspiess on August 15, 2012, 01:58:20 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 15, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
Old fashioned names are back in fashion in Britain too, lots of Alfies, Harrys, Rosies and Florences.
Still not as weird as Grover, Willard, Orrin and the rest of Palin's children :huh:
My best friend bravely named his son Henry.
I sort of had to talk my wife into William Thomas (Tommy) for our son. We named our daughter Lola, a name which quite a few people in our area had never heard of.
I don't know that "old fashioned" names are back in fashion per se. There are a number of names that were old, but are coming back. Think Oliver, Caleb, Ethan, Amelia, Abigail. But plenty of other old names remain just as old and dead. Nobody is getting named Hamish these days.
I insisted on fairly traditional names - names you wouldn't have to explain how to spell, but uncommon enough that they won't have anyone else in their class with that name. So I have Timothy and Andrew. :)
By the way I despise the trend of taking last names and making it into a first name. Mackenzie. <_<
That's another Scots thing. It's quite common for first name's to be mother's maiden names.
My name is both weird and a common last name. BB must hate me :( :P
As an aside I favour a name registry like Germany (and a few other euro countries). If the names not on the list you can't use it.
Quote from: Barrister on August 15, 2012, 04:50:26 PM
Nobody is getting named Hamish these days.
You have been living in uncivilized areas for far too long.
While not common, Hamish is definitely still being used.
Thankfully, my religious convictions require using a saint's name. So we've got the boys picked out. But girls is more difficult. Female saints have a very limited naming palette.
Quote from: Scipio on August 15, 2012, 05:42:09 PM
Thankfully, my religious convictions require using a saint's name. So we've got the boys picked out. But girls is more difficult. Female saints have a very limited naming palette.
It wasn't a religious necessity, but I do like that the boys have Bible names. :)
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 15, 2012, 04:08:41 PM
The Kinks are really ultra-British from an American standpoint; no good entry point like the Who.
:huh: Why?
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 15, 2012, 04:08:41 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 15, 2012, 03:01:59 PM
Apparently no-one in America is. NBC cut Ray Davies singing Waterloo Sunset from the closing ceremony <_<
The Kinks are really ultra-British from an American standpoint; no good entry point like the Who.
I don't know; they invented the power cord. That's not exactly esoteric. And a lot of their early-to-mid 80s stuff was more popular here than back in the UK.
OTOH, something like "Dedicated Follower of Fashion"--yeah, that sounds
really British.
Quote from: Barrister
By the way I despise the trend of taking last names and making it into a first name.
My grandfather had a brother with the first name "Smith". I've never heard of anybody else with that as a first name.
Quote from: dps on August 15, 2012, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 15, 2012, 04:08:41 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 15, 2012, 03:01:59 PM
Apparently no-one in America is. NBC cut Ray Davies singing Waterloo Sunset from the closing ceremony <_<
The Kinks are really ultra-British from an American standpoint; no good entry point like the Who.
I don't know; they invented the power cord. That's not exactly esoteric. And a lot of their early-to-mid 80s stuff was more popular here than back in the UK.
OTOH, something like "Dedicated Follower of Fashion"--yeah, that sounds really British.
Quote from: Barrister
By the way I despise the trend of taking last names and making it into a first name.
My grandfather had a brother with the first name "Smith". I've never heard of anybody else with that as a first name.
A buddy of mine in grade school was named Smith. Good guy.
Mart-do you understand that there was a president named Grover? Also that the entire world is not Poland and therefore does not use naming conventions you might be familiar with?
Quote from: chipwich on August 15, 2012, 06:32:33 PM
Mart-do you understand that there was a president named Grover? Also that the entire world is not Poland and therefore does not use naming conventions you might be familiar with?
He lives in a country, like Wales, which is bereft of vowels.
Quote from: Scipio on August 15, 2012, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: dps on August 15, 2012, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 15, 2012, 04:08:41 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 15, 2012, 03:01:59 PM
Apparently no-one in America is. NBC cut Ray Davies singing Waterloo Sunset from the closing ceremony <_<
The Kinks are really ultra-British from an American standpoint; no good entry point like the Who.
I don't know; they invented the power cord. That's not exactly esoteric. And a lot of their early-to-mid 80s stuff was more popular here than back in the UK.
OTOH, something like "Dedicated Follower of Fashion"--yeah, that sounds really British.
Quote from: Barrister
By the way I despise the trend of taking last names and making it into a first name.
My grandfather had a brother with the first name "Smith". I've never heard of anybody else with that as a first name.
A buddy of mine in grade school was named Smith. Good guy.
You went to school with dps's great-uncle? :D
Quote from: Martinus on August 15, 2012, 01:55:27 PM
These fashions are weird. For example I was born during an "ordinary names" trend, when people would name their kids normal names like Marcin (Martin), Piotr (Peter) or Andrzej (Andrew) - there were several of each in my class.
Then came the fashion for weird (from a Polish perspective) names inspired by tv shows and Western culture - so we had Olivias and Olivers, Blakes and the like.
Now there seems to be a fashion for old fashioned Polish named such as Stanislas or Wladyslaw.
I have a co-worker named Wojciech. :cool:
I worked with a guy called Bert.
You don't see enough Bruce's any more.
I don't associate with polacks.
Quote from: dps on August 15, 2012, 05:51:29 PM
My grandfather had a brother with the first name "Smith". I've never heard of anybody else with that as a first name.
I think it was popular in the early 20th century to give children a common last name as a first name. You read a lot of names like that in the 1920's and 1910's.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 15, 2012, 08:07:08 PM
I don't associate with polacks.
Every Polack-American I've ever known has been pretty cool.
Actually, every one of them except for Martha Labinoski that is, or as I called her Martha Blab-a-lot-ski :yuk:
Quote from: Razgovory on August 15, 2012, 08:27:27 PM
I think it was popular in the early 20th century to give children a common last name as a first name. You read a lot of names like that in the 1920's and 1910's.
Princesca's great grandfather was named Shade Wilder. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on August 15, 2012, 08:33:10 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 15, 2012, 08:07:08 PM
I don't associate with polacks.
Every Polack-American I've ever known has been pretty cool.
Actually, every one of them except for Martha Labinoski that is, or as I called her Martha Blab-a-lot-ski :yuk:
Let me hate on Polacks.
Also, their food is good. Ponchkeys :mmm:
(that's probably not how you spell it... probably like pzckzkzys)
Is not surnames for firstnames a typical American thing?
Its certainly how we view it from Blighty
When I was younger I knew a guy in my town called Æthelred, he had a sister called Eleanor. For kids this was of course hilariously bad though now I recognise the awesome.
My generation doesn't have so many silly names but from when I was 12 or so I noticed lots of stupid white people names pop up on sprogs in my town: China, India, Christa, Dakota, etc.... what's wrong with giving your kid a normal name, eh?
It was mostly on girls. Though some guy names were very strange at first, Jordan always struck me as kind of odd.
Quote from: Tyr on August 15, 2012, 08:36:48 PM
Is not surnames for firstnames a typical American thing?
Its certainly how we view it from Blighty
ummm no, I don't think so.
Here are the first names of everyone in my office in Louisville:
Amanda, Andrea, Andrew, Andy, Anna, Ashley, Barbara, Bob, Brian, Cassie, Chris, Dana, Danielle, Diana, Emma, Eric, Erik, Greg, Hope, Jeff, Jennifer, Kristen, Lisa, Michael, Michelle, Mike, Mindy, Patti, Rick, Rob, Robert, Robin, Shelly, Stephanie, Steve, Susie, Tasha, Terri, Todd, Yelena
everyone I can think of in my Chicago office:
Aaron, Amy, Andrew, Barb, Bill, Carl, Christoph, Diana, Deb, Debbie, Elizabeth, Ida, Joe, John, Jonathan, Julie, Kevin, Kim, Margie, Melissa, Kristen, Kristy, Ray, Rich, Rick, Ryan, Sam, Sandra, Shannon, Sonya, Steve, Todd, Tyler, William, Wojciech
everyone I can think of in my Irvine office:
Humair, Mike, Nick, Randy
everyone I can think of in my Charlotte office:
Heidi, Maydele, Mike
everyone I can think of in my Plano office:
Cynthia, Judi, Kevin, Laci
Quote from: Barrister on August 15, 2012, 04:50:26 PM
By the way I despise the trend of taking last names and making it into a first name. Mackenzie. <_<
Yeah, you've made that complaint before... numerous times. I'm not sure that I'd consider that a "trend", though, since it's been going on for as long as names have been recorded. The only difference is that there aren't suffixes and/or prefixes added or removed. The only real difference between then and now is that the names typically came from family, whereas now, people are just choosing names that they like.
I sorta liked Mackenzie for a girl's name. But I managed to dodge naming a kid Kyrie Eleison Hawkins.
Lord have mercy indeed.
If I had a kid I would name him Dante. I would also teach him Latin and Medieval Italian. He would wear red.
I still should have named a son after Davout.
Quote from: Barrister on August 15, 2012, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: Scipio on August 15, 2012, 05:42:09 PM
Thankfully, my religious convictions require using a saint's name. So we've got the boys picked out. But girls is more difficult. Female saints have a very limited naming palette.
It wasn't a religious necessity, but I do like that the boys have Bible names. :)
All boys should have Biblical names, or at least the Apostles. Save the squirrelly shit for girls.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 15, 2012, 09:37:20 PM
I sorta liked Mackenzie for a girl's name.
The oldest was named a proper Irish name, Caeleigh, but I fought tooth and nail over my second niece being named McKinley. Not only is it a mountain, but it's Scottish masculine for Christ's sake.
How do you name a daughter "Son of Kinley"?
Alas, I lost. Not my kid.
Then again, who am I kidding; I ever have two boys, they're Grant and Sherman. End of story.
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Quote from: Barrister on August 15, 2012, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: Scipio on August 15, 2012, 05:42:09 PM
Thankfully, my religious convictions require using a saint's name. So we've got the boys picked out. But girls is more difficult. Female saints have a very limited naming palette.
It wasn't a religious necessity, but I do like that the boys have Bible names. :)
All boys should have Biblical names, or at least the Apostles. Save the squirrelly shit for girls.
I have a very traditional first name, which was once rather common, but it's one of few not in the bible. :)
Quote from: Scipio on August 15, 2012, 05:42:09 PM
Thankfully, my religious convictions require using a saint's name. So we've got the boys picked out. But girls is more difficult. Female saints have a very limited naming palette.
Hildegard!
Quote from: Caliga on August 15, 2012, 08:33:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 15, 2012, 08:27:27 PM
I think it was popular in the early 20th century to give children a common last name as a first name. You read a lot of names like that in the 1920's and 1910's.
Princesca's great grandfather was named Shade Wilder. :cool:
That is a pretty fucking cool name.
Quote from: chipwich on August 15, 2012, 06:32:33 PM
Mart-do you understand that there was a president named Grover?
Our most Siegesque of Presidents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Folsom_Cleveland_Preston
QuoteA longtime close friend of Oscar Folsom, Grover Cleveland, at age 27, met his future wife shortly after she was born. He took an avuncular interest in the child, buying her a baby carriage and otherwise doting on her as she grew up. When her father, Oscar Folsom, died in a carriage accident on July 23, 1875, without having written a will, the court appointed Cleveland administrator of his estate.[4] This brought Cleveland into still more contact with Frances, then age 11.
She attended Central High School in Buffalo, NY and Medina High School in Medina, NY and went on to attend Wells College in Aurora, New York. Sometime while she was in college, Cleveland's feelings for her took a romantic turn. He proposed by letter in August 1885, soon after her graduation. They did not announce their engagement, however, until just five days before the wedding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Cleveland#Marriage_and_children
QuoteIn 1885 the daughter of Cleveland's friend Oscar Folsom visited him in Washington.[122] Frances Folsom was a student at Wells College; when she returned to school, President Cleveland received her mother's permission to correspond with her.[122] They were soon engaged to be married.[122]
On June 2, 1886, Cleveland married Frances Folsom in the Blue Room at the White House.[123] He was the second president to marry while in office, and the only president to have a wedding in the White House.[124] This marriage was unusual because Cleveland was the executor of Oscar Folsom's estate and had supervised Frances' upbringing after her father's death, but the public did not take exception to the match.[125] At twenty-one years old, Frances Folsom Cleveland remains the youngest First Lady, and the public soon warmed to her beauty and warm personality.[126]
Grover Cleveland Alexander was better.
Happens in Germany, too. There's a website collecting especially nice or stupid examples:
http://chantalismus.tumblr.com/
(Like kid being having as first names "Anakin Lucas". :bleeding:
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 15, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
Old fashioned names are back in fashion in Britain too, lots of Alfies, Harrys, Rosies and Florences.
Very selectively though. You won't hear a mother calling for her Percy, Stanley, Ethel, Myrtle, Martha, Roy, Victor, Bertha or Hattie in the playground.
My aunts and uncles born in the 20s to 40s were called Queenie, Emmie, Minnie, Rose, Victor, Lilian, Joyce, George, John, Peggy and Brenda, you don't see any of them much either.
But then again I'm named after a friend of my parents who in turn was named after a queen of Egypt, so who am I to argue against strange names? It's also in the New Testament, so would that pass the Apostle test?
Here's a nice BBC article on the phenomenon, "In search of a baby called Derek".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19247787 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19247787)
Quote from: Brazen on August 16, 2012, 03:40:51 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 15, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
Old fashioned names are back in fashion in Britain too, lots of Alfies, Harrys, Rosies and Florences.
Very selectively though. You won't hear a mother calling for her Percy, Stanley, Ethel, Myrtle, Martha, Roy, Victor, Bertha or Hattie in the playground.
My aunts and uncles born in the 20s to 40s were called Queenie, Emmie, Minnie, Rose, Victor, Lilian, Joyce, George, John, Peggy and Brenda, you don't see any of them much either.
But then again I'm named after a friend of my parents who in turn was named after a queen of Egypt, so who am I to argue against strange names? It's also in the New Testament, so would that pass the Apostle test?
Here's a nice BBC article on the phenomenon, "In search of a baby called Derek".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19247787 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19247787)
Derek seems still relatively popular in the states. Not that common, but not unusual either.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2012, 03:59:11 AM
Derek seems still relatively popular in the states. Not that common, but not unusual either.
I have a friend my age called Derek, but you don't see names repeated in subsequent generations. Typical names in my year at school include Darren and Anneka (two of each in my class alone) but those names seem to have died out entirely.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2012, 01:30:45 AM
That is a pretty fucking cool name.
Shade was a pretty fucking cool guy. One day he was at a bar and, as a prank, another guy stole his car keys. Shade pulled out his gun and shot the guy. Unfortunately for Shade, the other dude was carrying too, and he managed to return fire. Both men died. This happened on Halloween night, 1932.
Quote from: Caliga on August 16, 2012, 04:58:38 AM
Shade was a pretty fucking cool guy. One day he was at a bar and, as a prank, another guy stole his car keys. Shade pulled out his gun and shot the guy. Unfortunately for Shade, the other dude was carrying too, and he managed to return fire. Both men died. This happened on Halloween night, 1932.
Oh, those whacky Prohibition-era hijinks.
Quote from: Brazen on August 16, 2012, 04:18:31 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2012, 03:59:11 AM
Derek seems still relatively popular in the states. Not that common, but not unusual either.
I have a friend my age called Derek, but you don't see names repeated in subsequent generations. Typical names in my year at school include Darren and Anneka (two of each in my class alone) but those names seem to have died out entirely.
I know several Darrens around my age and I've heard of at least one current kid.
John is an uncommon name in England?
I never considered it but with the current batch of kids....yeah. Checking up it doesn't appear in the top 100.
I know one or two my age but no kids.
These things move in cycles apparently.
My parents gave me my name thinking it was super uncommon but cool...but low and behold it was actually a pretty popular name around the time I was born. There were 5 others in my year at school.
Quote from: Brazen on August 16, 2012, 03:40:51 AM
Here's a nice BBC article on the phenomenon, "In search of a baby called Derek".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19247787 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19247787)
Tim's middle name is Derek. Born in 2010.
Mind you middle names are where you bury the names you think you need to add, but don't like. In this case named after his uncle (my wife's brother) who died of leukemia in his teens.
Looks like it continues to experience decline year after year. See it at the 100 spot in 2011 and 94 in 2010. Apparently not featured at all in American list.
Quote from: Barrister on August 16, 2012, 09:17:13 AM
Mind you middle names are where you bury the names you think you need to add, but don't like. In this case named after his uncle (my wife's brother) who died of leukemia in his teens.
I'm not sure I'd give my child any name that I didn't like.
Quote from: katmai on August 15, 2012, 08:04:53 PM
You don't see enough Bruce's any more.
I've never gotten to see The Boss live at all. :(
Quote from: garbon on August 16, 2012, 08:33:21 AM
John is an uncommon name in England?
Yes, it has gone from the most popular name in the UK - it's my Dad's name - to 94th male name. I don't know a single child called John.
http://www.babynames.co.uk/popular-baby-names#name1=John (http://www.babynames.co.uk/popular-baby-names#name1=John)
Hmm, well it said that it isn't in the top 100 here in the US either though I know many people in my generation with the name. Generally don't associate with babies, so I've no idea there. :D
Quote from: Brazen on August 16, 2012, 03:40:51 AM
Very selectively though. You won't hear a mother calling for her Percy, Stanley, Ethel, Myrtle, Martha, Roy, Victor, Bertha or Hattie in the playground.
My aunts and uncles born in the 20s to 40s were called Queenie, Emmie, Minnie, Rose, Victor, Lilian, Joyce, George, John, Peggy and Brenda, you don't see any of them much either.
True enough. In my family - sort of grandparents generation - I had three Kittys (two Kathleens and a Catherine), a couple of Cathys, a Sylvia, a Jackie and a Norma. Those names haven't come back into fashion, if they ever were in fashion.
How does "Leon" strike everybody? It was my grandfather's name, might be nice to reuse it on a son someday. And what about "Eugene"? Too old-fashioned?
I think I'd like to go with "Pauline" for a girl.
Whne i hear Leon i think wise old black guy. Eugene makes me think Eugene Levy. Pauline makes me think post op tranny :D
Part of me wanted to use the name Gord, and of course call him Gordie. My dad's older brother was Gordie.
But who the hell names their kid Gord these days? :(
Just think - some day in the future everyone will think names like Madison, Mackenzie, Jackson and Liam as being old people names, te same way we think of Ethel or Leon...
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 15, 2012, 04:58:35 PM
That's another Scots thing. It's quite common for first name's to be mother's maiden names.
Is it? Ah got it that explains alot.
Though I think putting Maiden names in names is pretty common for the English as well yes?
Boys names typically stay more constant (well more constant than Girls) but Girls names are absurdly trendy. You can pretty easily assume a woman named 'Donna' is a Boomer for example.
Quote from: Brazen on August 16, 2012, 11:06:04 AM
Quote from: garbon on August 16, 2012, 08:33:21 AM
John is an uncommon name in England?
Yes, it has gone from the most popular name in the UK - it's my Dad's name - to 94th male name. I don't know a single child called John.
http://www.babynames.co.uk/popular-baby-names#name1=John (http://www.babynames.co.uk/popular-baby-names#name1=John)
That is an unspeakably awful tragedy.
Quote from: Barrister on August 16, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
Part of me wanted to use the name Gord, and of course call him Gordie. My dad's older brother was Gordie.
But who the hell names their kid Gord these days? :(
Just think - some day in the future everyone will think names like Madison, Mackenzie, Jackson and Liam as being old people names, te same way we think of Ethel or Leon...
Gordon isn't a bad name, though. I've recently heard a kid called that around here. He must have been around 3 or 4 and running around the office mall I work at. Mom started out with "Gordie" then quickly progressed to "Gordon David!" :D
I was thinking of that the other day, actually. It'll be strange to hear my grandkids say things like, "Mary is so old fashioned!" when it was the most popular name the year that I was born. So much so that most of the Marys and Marias that I went to school with went by their middle names instead. Of course, that may just be a Catholic thing. Dunno.
Maybe by the time your Grandkids come along it will be a popular name again :P
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2012, 02:05:33 AM
Our most Siegesque of Presidents.
Do not talk badly of our nations greatest President :angry:
Besides 21 would be too old and fat for Siege.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 16, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
How does "Leon" strike everybody? It was my grandfather's name, might be nice to reuse it on a son someday. And what about "Eugene"? Too old-fashioned?
I think I'd like to go with "Pauline" for a girl.
When I hear "Leon", I think of
The Professional; for "Eugene", I think of The Order of the Stick.
Don't have any particular reaction at all to "Pauline". Well, on reflection, either
The Perils of Pauline or "Jethrine", but I actually had to think on it for a while. The reactions to the boys' names came while I was still reading your post.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 16, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
How does "Leon" strike everybody? It was my grandfather's name, might be nice to reuse it on a son someday. And what about "Eugene"? Too old-fashioned?
I think I'd like to go with "Pauline" for a girl.
My grandpa's middle name was Leon. Can't figure out how that name got used in rural southwest Ohio.
Quote from: dps on August 16, 2012, 02:02:37 PM
When I hear "Leon", I think of The Professional; for "Eugene", I think of The Order of the Stick.
Don't have any particular reaction at all to "Pauline". Well, on reflection, either The Perils of Pauline or "Jethrine", but I actually had to think on it for a while. The reactions to the boys' names came while I was still reading your post.
We had a couple old ladies at my church named Pauline, so that's what comes to mind for me.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 16, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
How does "Leon" strike everybody? It was my grandfather's name, might be nice to reuse it on a son someday. And what about "Eugene"? Too old-fashioned?
I think I'd like to go with "Pauline" for a girl.
My uncle and cousin were named Eugene, and both went by Gene. To me, Eugene and Leon are both old men names, and there's not really any way to soften them. Pauline is an old ladies' name to me, too, now that I think on it.
But I'm going to offer you the advice I offer everyone who's considering what to name their child: If you like a name, use it. Don't tell anyone what you're thinking until after you've signed the birth certificate and sent it on the way. Everyone has an opinion, but in the end, the parents are the only ones whose opinions should matter at all.
Vetting it out to people is just asking for every horrible story ever told about why that particular name is no good. "I went to school with this kid named Leon who ate his bugers and played with himself during naptime. I wouldn't EVER name my kid that!" :rolleyes:
I think Leon sounds nice. Eugene, not so much.
Middle names is a whole other story. I have a last name for a middle name. Growing up with mostly Italian-American friends, they all had first names for middle names, so I always felt a little weird about it.
I don't have a middle name since my parents are lazy. :(
Then again, I used to have a friend with a most outlandship middle name. He cut his intenstine out with a pair of scissors in a drug-induced delirium.
Quote from: Barrister on August 16, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
Part of me wanted to use the name Gord, and of course call him Gordie. My dad's older brother was Gordie.
But who the hell names their kid Gord these days? :(
It would work, but only if he was called Gordo for short. Anybody named after an astronaut can't go wrong.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 16, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
Part of me wanted to use the name Gord, and of course call him Gordie. My dad's older brother was Gordie.
But who the hell names their kid Gord these days? :(
It would work, but only if he was called Gordo for short. Anybody named after an astronaut can't go wrong.
:lol:
That's my nephew's nickname. It means "chubby" or "fatso" in Spanish, and though he's now a tall, thin young man, as a baby he was fat as hell!
Quote from: Martinus on August 16, 2012, 02:53:52 PM
I don't have a middle name since my parents are lazy. :(
Then again, I used to have a friend with a most outlandship middle name. He cut his intenstine out with a pair of scissors in a drug-induced delirium.
"He cut his intestine out with a pair of scissors in a drug-induced delirium" sounds Native American, not Polish.
;)
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 16, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 16, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
Part of me wanted to use the name Gord, and of course call him Gordie. My dad's older brother was Gordie.
But who the hell names their kid Gord these days? :(
It would work, but only if he was called Gordo for short. Anybody named after an astronaut can't go wrong.
Bah. Gordie is the name of one of the finest Canadians of all time.
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Much as I'd like to mock BB and Canada right now, I ain't gonna say nothing bad about Gordie Howe.
I suppose I could say something about how it's sad that there aren't any Canadian heroes outside of ice hockey, but I know too much about WWI and WWII to really mean it (even if there are few Canadians who are well-known for their heroism in the World Wars, there certainly were many Canadian who served heroically).
Quote from: dps on August 16, 2012, 03:32:25 PM
Much as I'd like to mock BB and Canada right now, I ain't gonna say nothing bad about Gordie Howe.
Smart man. Even in his 80s I bet Gordie Howe could kick both of our asses.
Cute chick at Chick-fil-A had "Miller" as a first name today.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 16, 2012, 04:00:25 PM
Cute chick at Chick-fil-A had "Miller" as a first name today.
The "Miller Time" joke literally writes itself.
Quote from: derspiess on August 16, 2012, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 16, 2012, 04:00:25 PM
Cute chick at Chick-fil-A had "Miller" as a first name today.
The "Miller Time" joke literally writes itself.
I was thinking that her parents either really liked the beer or the TV show. Still not as bad as Timberly though.
One of my middle names is Adam and I'd really have liked to have had that as my first name, but I'm guessing it's a relative rare christian name.
Because earlier I was having a go at some genealogy, perhaps my first serious go, and looking at the census/births/deaths/marriage records it appears throughout the mid to late 19th century there were only ever about 6 or 7 Adam Carter* in the whole of England and Wales during that period, which is very surprising, to the point I thought there must be errors in the database.
* Adam Carter being my great-grandfather who was born in 1842, so it appears that part of my family seem to father rather late in life, ie he fathered my grandfather at the age of 53 ! So there 'hope' for me yet. :hmm:
Quote from: Martinus on August 16, 2012, 02:53:52 PM
I don't have a middle name since my parents are lazy. :(
Then again, I used to have a friend with a most outlandship middle name. He cut his intenstine out with a pair of scissors in a drug-induced delirium.
Make one up.
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
One of my middle names is Adam and I'd really have liked to have had that as my first name, but I'm guessing it's a relative rare christian name.
I knew a couple of Adams in school.
Grumbler knew an Adam. He thought he was a good young man.
That eve was a bitch though.
Quote from: HVC on August 16, 2012, 06:26:38 PM
That eve was a bitch though.
Do you mean Lilith?
Quote from: dps on August 16, 2012, 11:02:12 AM
I've never gotten to see The Boss live at all. :(
Seen him twice. Go.. totally worth it. Just make sure you take your pee break when he makes his scheduled political rant right before the last couple of songs in the set. :)
First wives dont count. Besides as far as Hebrew demons go Lilith is cool.
Quote from: Caliga on August 16, 2012, 07:32:58 PM
Quote from: dps on August 16, 2012, 11:02:12 AM
I've never gotten to see The Boss live at all. :(
Seen him twice. Go.. totally worth it. Just make sure you take your pee break when he makes his scheduled political rant right before the last couple of songs in the set. :)
Springsteen sucks.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2012, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
One of my middle names is Adam and I'd really have liked to have had that as my first name, but I'm guessing it's a relative rare christian name.
I knew a couple of Adams in school.
Well yes it's much more popular now in the UK as well, around 34th most popular in boys names.
Whereas my own first name, Robert, has now dropped out of the top 100 altogether :(
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 16, 2012, 07:37:27 PM
Springsteen sucks.
You're not my brother. I don't even know who you are anymore.
First names for newborns seem to be going to pot over in Blighty as well; found some official Government statistics but the top 100 isn't available as a list bur rather in this format:
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:hmm:
Jayden? :bleeding:
Quote from: HVC on August 16, 2012, 08:21:08 PM
Jayden? :bleeding:
And it's derivatives. Aiden. Aaden. Etc. etc.
Riley as a bro's name? :huh:
Harry and Oliver? I guess the Brits love naming boys after their greatest tyrants.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 16, 2012, 08:23:28 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 16, 2012, 08:21:08 PM
Jayden? :bleeding:
And it's derivatives. Aiden. Aaden. Etc. etc.
Pretty sure Aiden doesn't come from Jayden.
Quote from: Valmy on August 16, 2012, 08:26:16 PM
Harry and Oliver? I guess the Brits love naming boys after their greatest tyrants.
What's interesting to me is how all the nicknames are taking place of the original names.
Also, I see where John went to. Got absorbed by Muhammad.
Quote from: garbon on August 16, 2012, 08:26:53 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 16, 2012, 08:23:28 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 16, 2012, 08:21:08 PM
Jayden? :bleeding:
And it's derivatives. Aiden. Aaden. Etc. etc.
Pretty sure Aiden doesn't come from Jayden.
My white trash studies have been neglected recently. :)
Quote from: HVC on August 16, 2012, 08:28:53 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 16, 2012, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 16, 2012, 08:26:53 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 16, 2012, 08:23:28 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 16, 2012, 08:21:08 PM
Jayden? :bleeding:
And it's derivatives. Aiden. Aaden. Etc. etc.
Pretty sure Aiden doesn't come from Jayden.
My white trash studies have been neglected recently. :)
never forget your roots!!!
:P
I'll make you squeal boy.
I'm both intrigued and horrified. Be gentle :wub:
Quote from: HVC on August 16, 2012, 08:32:31 PM
I'm both intrigued and horrified. Be gentle :wub:
Pass. I might not get that eggplant smell off of me.
Porkchop!
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Clearly over 12. :P
Quote from: garbon on August 16, 2012, 08:27:55 PM
What's interesting to me is how all the nicknames are taking place of the original names.
Also, I see where John went to. Got absorbed by Muhammad.
I think it got absorbed by Mohammed.
Living in a Muslim country must be confusing as hell.
Probably go by second names like all the Mediterranean Maria's
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 16, 2012, 08:30:33 PM
Irish. And grabass is correct. :blush:
Indeed nothing inherently trashy about Aiden.
And some random baby name site told me Jayden comes from Spanish.
I think I'll give my next kid a Nordic name. Or Felix Steiner.
Quote from: Valmy on August 16, 2012, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 16, 2012, 08:27:55 PM
What's interesting to me is how all the nicknames are taking place of the original names.
Also, I see where John went to. Got absorbed by Muhammad.
I think it got absorbed by Mohammed.
Living in a Muslim country must be confusing as hell.
I've never liked the O spellings.
Princesca's cousin named his daughter Caden. :yuk:
I call her Caden Alenko. :nerd:
Celtic names: :yucky:
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2012, 08:05:03 PM
First names for newborns seem to be going to pot over in Blighty as well; found some official Government statistics but the top 100 isn't available as a list bur rather in this format:
:hmm:
Poppy! :x
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2012, 08:59:01 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2012, 08:05:03 PM
First names for newborns seem to be going to pot over in Blighty as well; found some official Government statistics but the top 100 isn't available as a list bur rather in this format:
:hmm:
Poppy! :x
I'm fairly sure it's another one of those childhood nicknames that has now become a first name.
Quote from: derspiess on August 16, 2012, 08:56:18 PM
Celtic names: :yucky:
You have no taste, so who cares? :hmm:
Quote from: garbon on August 16, 2012, 08:27:55 PM
What's interesting to me is how all the nicknames are taking place of the original names.
I admit that as much as BB dislikes last names for first names, I dislike this new trend. Give the kid the real name, and then feel free to call them the nickname. But for heaven's sake, give them a real name first!
That's not new either. Princesca's grandfather's legal first name is Harry, and she had a great uncle legally named Dave. I had a great-great-great-uncle legally named Harry as well (born c. 1870).
White trash! :w00t:
Quote from: Caliga on August 16, 2012, 09:44:13 PM
That's not new either. Princesca's grandfather's legal first name is Harry, and she had a great uncle legally named Dave. I had a great-great-great-uncle legally named Harry as well (born c. 1870).
Must have been a mid-1950s thing that they didn't allow nicknames as first names, then. My cousin - born ~1955 or so - couldn't be named Toni because it was a nickname. Her mother was required to give her the real name of Antoinette, though she's never once used it. Toni has been Toni since she was born, and her mother still cringes when she hears the full name spoken.
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
Because earlier I was having a go at some genealogy, perhaps my first serious go, and looking at the census/births/deaths/marriage records it appears throughout the mid to late 19th century there were only ever about 6 or 7 Adam Carter* in the whole of England and Wales during that period, which is very surprising, to the point I thought there must be errors in the database.
I dug a bit into my dad's line a little while ago. That was a complete waste of time. He's Welsh, and apparently the Welsh have only six names that they use before they get lost. My great-grandfather's name was Meredith Williams. In the tiny town that he lived in (pop. ~ 500), there were something like 20 other Meredith Williams'. His father's name was James, and his mother's name was Mary Katherine, but she went by Elizabeth. (WTF??) There were at least three other couples named James & Mary Katherine Williams, and another several James & Elizabeth Williams. Talk about a nightmare trying to find which one is the progenitor of our line. :wacko:
Ugh. The welsh.
Quote from: merithyn on August 16, 2012, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
Because earlier I was having a go at some genealogy, perhaps my first serious go, and looking at the census/births/deaths/marriage records it appears throughout the mid to late 19th century there were only ever about 6 or 7 Adam Carter* in the whole of England and Wales during that period, which is very surprising, to the point I thought there must be errors in the database.
I dug a bit into my dad's line a little while ago. That was a complete waste of time. He's Welsh, and apparently the Welsh have only six names that they use before they get lost. My great-grandfather's name was Meredith Williams. In the tiny town that he lived in (pop. ~ 500), there were something like 20 other Meredith Williams'. His father's name was James, and his mother's name was Mary Katherine, but she went by Elizabeth. (WTF??) There were at least three other couples named James & Mary Katherine Williams, and another several James & Elizabeth Williams. Talk about a nightmare trying to find which one is the progenitor of our line. :wacko:
Good grief that does make it difficult, very difficult.
I had a brief look at my old man's side of the family and it's a little odd, like them deciding to entirely change the surname in the 1920s from one beginning with an A to one starting with an H. :hmm:
QuoteGood grief that does make it difficult, very difficult.
I had a brief look at my old man's side of the family and it's a little odd, like them deciding to entirely change the surname in the 1920s from one beginning with an A to one starting with an H. :hmm:
My great grandad replaced a much cooler spelling with a Y with a more common one with an I....because the one with a y 'was too common' (in the low class sense, not the widespread sense). Something he only thought to tell the family when he was in his 70s...
I've always utterly failed looking into my geneology beyond relatives I knew.
Quote from: merithyn on August 16, 2012, 09:41:11 PM
I admit that as much as BB dislikes last names for first names, I dislike this new trend. Give the kid the real name, and then feel free to call them the nickname. But for heaven's sake, give them a real name first!
I dunno, that can be quite confusing. My nanna is called Elizabetha or something like that. She has only ever been called Ella. Why have the name someone is actually called and their legal name be different? Sounds like a route to confusion.
And of course the embarassment will suck for the kid when he is faced with a substitute teacher who doesn't realise he never uses his embarassing full name.
Quote from: merithyn on August 16, 2012, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
Because earlier I was having a go at some genealogy, perhaps my first serious go, and looking at the census/births/deaths/marriage records it appears throughout the mid to late 19th century there were only ever about 6 or 7 Adam Carter* in the whole of England and Wales during that period, which is very surprising, to the point I thought there must be errors in the database.
I dug a bit into my dad's line a little while ago. That was a complete waste of time. He's Welsh, and apparently the Welsh have only six names that they use before they get lost. My great-grandfather's name was Meredith Williams. In the tiny town that he lived in (pop. ~ 500), there were something like 20 other Meredith Williams'. His father's name was James, and his mother's name was Mary Katherine, but she went by Elizabeth. (WTF??) There were at least three other couples named James & Mary Katherine Williams, and another several James & Elizabeth Williams. Talk about a nightmare trying to find which one is the progenitor of our line. :wacko:
Try being Ukrainian.
Mom's side (which is general British mix) can be traced back to at least the 17th century. Dad, who's Ukrainian, hits a giant brick wall as soon as you go back to the old country.
Quote from: Barrister on August 17, 2012, 01:04:02 AM
Your loss. Pyrogies. :mmm:
I had some of those at a Polish restaurant. Very mediocre.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 16, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
How does "Leon" strike everybody? It was my grandfather's name, might be nice to reuse it on a son someday. And what about "Eugene"? Too old-fashioned?
I think I'd like to go with "Pauline" for a girl.
Leon was my maternal grandfather's name, and at least since then there's been one in every generation (my uncle and my younger cousin), although none of them use it in full (my uncle is known as Leo and my cousin has it as his middle name. I rather like it, it sounds strong in Spanish.
And I'm meeting a very beautiful girl called Paulina in a while, so that'll always sound great to me. :lol:
Levon si, Leon no. :mad:
Quote from: Caliga on August 16, 2012, 04:58:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2012, 01:30:45 AM
That is a pretty fucking cool name.
Shade was a pretty fucking cool guy. One day he was at a bar and, as a prank, another guy stole his car keys. Shade pulled out his gun and shot the guy. Unfortunately for Shade, the other dude was carrying too, and he managed to return fire. Both men died. This happened on Halloween night, 1932.
Sounds like a fucking moron. too bad he passed on his genetics before his death.
Quote from: The Larch on August 17, 2012, 06:43:13 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 16, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
How does "Leon" strike everybody? It was my grandfather's name, might be nice to reuse it on a son someday. And what about "Eugene"? Too old-fashioned?
I think I'd like to go with "Pauline" for a girl.
Leon was my maternal grandfather's name, and at least since then there's been one in every generation (my uncle and my younger cousin), although none of them use it in full (my uncle is known as Leo and my cousin has it as his middle name. I rather like it, it sounds strong in Spanish.
And I'm meeting a very beautiful girl called Paulina in a while, so that'll always sound great to me. :lol:
I am 4th generation with Lionel/Leonal as first or middle name.
Quote from: katmai on August 17, 2012, 03:39:34 PM
Sounds like a fucking moron. too bad he passed on his genetics before his death.
He was a drunkard, not a moron. :mad:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 17, 2012, 01:15:44 AM
Quote from: Barrister on August 17, 2012, 01:04:02 AM
Your loss. Pyrogies. :mmm:
I had some of those at a Polish restaurant. Very mediocre.
I make my own. They're quite good. :)
Quote from: PRC on August 18, 2012, 01:41:48 AM
Quote from: Barrister on August 17, 2012, 01:04:02 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 17, 2012, 12:38:03 AM
Quote from: Barrister on August 17, 2012, 12:36:09 AM
Try being Ukrainian.
Pass.
Your loss. Pyrogies. :mmm:
Aren't those Polish?
Remember, when you're talking about Ukrainian-Canadians (or Polish-Canadian) they mostly came over 100+ years ago. The whole distinction between what was Polish and Ukrainian was fuzzy back in the day in those regions of Galicia.
Does this mean BB might be Polish? :shifty:
Quote from: Caliga on August 16, 2012, 09:44:13 PM
That's not new either. Princesca's grandfather's legal first name is Harry, and she had a great uncle legally named Dave. I had a great-great-great-uncle legally named Harry as well (born c. 1870).
Maybe that's a Kentucky thing. My wife's friend's husband's legal name is Dave and he's a born & bred Kentuckian.
Quote from: merithyn on August 16, 2012, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
Because earlier I was having a go at some genealogy, perhaps my first serious go, and looking at the census/births/deaths/marriage records it appears throughout the mid to late 19th century there were only ever about 6 or 7 Adam Carter* in the whole of England and Wales during that period, which is very surprising, to the point I thought there must be errors in the database.
I dug a bit into my dad's line a little while ago. That was a complete waste of time. He's Welsh, and apparently the Welsh have only six names that they use before they get lost. My great-grandfather's name was Meredith Williams. In the tiny town that he lived in (pop. ~ 500), there were something like 20 other Meredith Williams'. His father's name was James, and his mother's name was Mary Katherine, but she went by Elizabeth. (WTF??) There were at least three other couples named James & Mary Katherine Williams, and another several James & Elizabeth Williams. Talk about a nightmare trying to find which one is the progenitor of our line. :wacko:
When my wife's grandfather immigrated to Canada from Wales his last name was Pritchard-Williams. When he landed in Canada the immigration officer told him it was too long and so assigned the last name of Williams to him. Each of his sons then carried the Pritchard name as a middle name and one of our sons has it as a middle name as well.
@Cal, my maternal grandfather's name was Harry.
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 18, 2012, 06:48:23 PM
Quote from: merithyn on August 16, 2012, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
Because earlier I was having a go at some genealogy, perhaps my first serious go, and looking at the census/births/deaths/marriage records it appears throughout the mid to late 19th century there were only ever about 6 or 7 Adam Carter* in the whole of England and Wales during that period, which is very surprising, to the point I thought there must be errors in the database.
I dug a bit into my dad's line a little while ago. That was a complete waste of time. He's Welsh, and apparently the Welsh have only six names that they use before they get lost. My great-grandfather's name was Meredith Williams. In the tiny town that he lived in (pop. ~ 500), there were something like 20 other Meredith Williams'. His father's name was James, and his mother's name was Mary Katherine, but she went by Elizabeth. (WTF??) There were at least three other couples named James & Mary Katherine Williams, and another several James & Elizabeth Williams. Talk about a nightmare trying to find which one is the progenitor of our line. :wacko:
When my wife's grandfather immigrated to Canada from Wales his last name was Pritchard-Williams. When he landed in Canada the immigration officer told him it was too long and so assigned the last name of Williams to him. Each of his sons then carried the Pritchard name as a middle name and one of our sons has it as a middle name as well.
@Cal, my maternal grandfather's name was Harry.
:cool:
Quote from: Brazen on August 16, 2012, 04:18:31 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 16, 2012, 03:59:11 AM
Derek seems still relatively popular in the states. Not that common, but not unusual either.
I have a friend my age called Derek, but you don't see names repeated in subsequent generations. Typical names in my year at school include Darren and Anneka (two of each in my class alone) but those names seem to have died out entirely.
Given that the most popular athlete in New York City over the last seventeen years has been Derek Jeter, I have to assume that Derek is still a relatively popular name in the states.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 20, 2012, 05:39:44 AM
Given that the most popular athlete in New York City over the last seventeen years has been Derek Jeter, I have to assume that Derek is still a relatively popular name in the states.
:hmm:
Quote from: Caliga on August 20, 2012, 06:25:51 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 20, 2012, 05:39:44 AM
Given that the most popular athlete in New York City over the last seventeen years has been Derek Jeter, I have to assume that Derek is still a relatively popular name in the states.
:hmm:
People tend to name their kids after famous people like athletes and movie stars.
Quote from: Valmy on August 16, 2012, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 16, 2012, 08:27:55 PM
What's interesting to me is how all the nicknames are taking place of the original names.
Also, I see where John went to. Got absorbed by Muhammad.
I think it got absorbed by Mohammed.
Living in a Muslim country must be confusing as hell.
A friend of mine that went to uni in Cairo told me that if you go into a lecture hall and shout "Achmed!" half the guys turn their heads and if you immediately follow with "no, I meant Abdullah!" the other half turn their heads.
They all have nicknames. It's as bad as chinese guys picking english names, only the arabs pick arab names. The is one of the reasons the FBI can't track many of these guys down. They all have the same birth name, then they have a kunya (convoluted version of patronyms) and a nickname and a nom-du-guerre. I can sympathise what with most guys in iceland being named either Jón or Guðmundur it gets confusing since the result is that most people have one of four last names.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 20, 2012, 07:11:29 AM
People Black People tend to name their kids after famous people like athletes and movie stars.
Hence my old downstairs neighbors, who named the teenybopper's kid "Kobe Jordan"...three months
after Kobe's rape arrest.
In the early 90s, it seemed every second boy in Germany was named "Kevin". It has since become a name associated with lower class proles. (Similar to mispronounced French names, like Chantal or Jaqueline - Shun-tull and Shuck-uh-leen respectivle.)
Quote from: derspiess on August 15, 2012, 01:58:20 PM
We named our daughter Lola, a name which quite a few people in our area had never heard of.
Isn't Lola usually a nickname for Dolores?
L.
Quote from: Pedrito on August 20, 2012, 10:00:42 AM
Quote from: derspiess on August 15, 2012, 01:58:20 PM
We named our daughter Lola, a name which quite a few people in our area had never heard of.
Isn't Lola usually a nickname for Dolores?
L.
It was in
Lolita.
Quote from: Pedrito on August 20, 2012, 10:00:42 AM
Quote from: derspiess on August 15, 2012, 01:58:20 PM
We named our daughter Lola, a name which quite a few people in our area had never heard of.
Isn't Lola usually a nickname for Dolores?
L.
I had not heard it used that way here, but my wife was familiar with that usage in Argentina/Spain.
Her name was Lola, she was a showgirl with yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there.
Quote from: derspiess on August 20, 2012, 10:48:19 AM
I had not heard it used that way here, but my wife was familiar with that usage in Argentina/Spain.
This is the only person I've known named Lola:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVXmMMSo47s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVXmMMSo47s)