I'm curious how many people do this (mainly focusing on people who have parents who are retired, obviously, and not active professionally).
Only my father is retired and no.
It's still the other way around.
I began assisting my parents financially when I started working - around the age of 13.
No.
Mom is retired with a teacher's pension. Dad still works contract / part time. They appear to be doing okay.
I have resigned myself that any future home should ideally have a mother-in-law suite for, well, my mother in law...
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 17, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
I began assisting my parents financially when I started working - around the age of 13.
Ditto.
Mom owed me twenty grand on the day I moved out. When the total reached $35,000 I gave up on it. A significant amount of my mother's existence is still subsidized by me, and I'm about to buy a house for her to live in.
No. My parents both still work and both have a higher net income than me.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 17, 2012, 11:31:49 AM
Ditto.
Mom owed me twenty grand on the day I moved out. When the total reached $35,000 I gave up on it. A significant amount of my mother's existence is still subsidized by me, and I'm about to buy a house for her to live in.
Heh never loan family members money. It is either a gift or do not give it at all.
And no my parents do really well.
:Embarrass:
Quote from: Valmy on July 17, 2012, 11:44:09 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 17, 2012, 11:31:49 AM
Ditto.
Mom owed me twenty grand on the day I moved out. When the total reached $35,000 I gave up on it. A significant amount of my mother's existence is still subsidized by me, and I'm about to buy a house for her to live in.
Heh never loan family members money. It is either a gift or do not give it at all.
Given the fact your parents are well off, you were never in the position MiM and I were/are in. When my parents asked me for money they always said it was a loan which they would pay back as soon as they had the money. I quickly learned there was no chance I was ever going to see that money again but kept up the pretence of it being a loan because it seemed easier for them that way.
No, still poorer than my retired father. He's giving me a loan to extend the lease on my flat which was refused by my mortgage company, for shame :Embarrass:
My mother does not need any financial help. But my mother-in-law lives in a house that we have provided, I should add that both of these people have been very generous to us in the past.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 17, 2012, 11:49:25 AM
Given the fact your parents are well off, you were never in the position MiM and I were/are in. When my parents asked me for money they always said it was a loan which they would pay back as soon as they had the money. I quickly learned there was no chance I was ever going to see that money again but kept up the pretence of it being a loan because it seemed easier for them that way.
Yep. That's how it happens. Things keep "coming up", but we'll get to it soon. Meh. Let them keep their dignity.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 17, 2012, 11:26:24 AM
It's still the other way around.
Ditto; both my parents are comfortably retired, and they're looking at bankrolling me in the future.
Already told me they won't let me move back in. :glare:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 17, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 17, 2012, 11:26:24 AM
It's still the other way around.
Ditto; both my parents are comfortably retired, and they're looking at bankrolling me in the future.
Already told me they won't let me move back in. :glare:
Your mom still takes care of her boy, with all the meals she makes you. Lucky bastard.
Quote from: derspiess on July 17, 2012, 12:32:16 PM
Your mom still takes care of her boy, with all the meals she makes you. Lucky bastard.
LOL, don't buy into all the hype; if it's something she's made and she doesn't like it, it's passed on to me. "Well, I didn't like the way it turned out", or "it smelled funny". Thanks, Mom.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 17, 2012, 11:31:49 AM
Ditto.
Mom owed me twenty grand on the day I moved out. When the total reached $35,000 I gave up on it. A significant amount of my mother's existence is still subsidized by me, and I'm about to buy a house for her to live in.
How the fuck did you put together 20 large before graduating high school? :huh:
Quote from: Martinus on July 17, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
I'm curious how many people do this (mainly focusing on people who have parents who are retired, obviously, and not active professionally).
No none required.
My parents aren't poors.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 17, 2012, 12:36:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on July 17, 2012, 12:32:16 PM
Your mom still takes care of her boy, with all the meals she makes you. Lucky bastard.
LOL, don't buy into all the hype; if it's something she's made and she doesn't like it, it's passed on to me. "Well, I didn't like the way it turned out", or "it smelled funny". Thanks, Mom.
Now that I think of it, I'm averaging about one meal a week at my parent's house. With the wife's screwed-up work schedule, I have the kids by myself Sunday as well as Monday thru Wednesday evenings. With the kids driving me nuts & me being too lazy to cook, I usually find an excuse to go over there around dinnertime.
WHAT, YOU NEED HELP DOING SOMETHING ON YOUR COMPUTER THAT I COULD PROBABLY WALK YOU THROUGH OVER THE PHONE? I'LL BE OVER AT 6:15.
The only downside to eating over there is that they've started taking on some old-people traits. Like only buying sugar-free ice cream. I always tell Tommy it's okay not to eat it & that we can stop somewhere on the way home.
Not yet, no, but I suspect that once we're in a better position, we'll be helping out both Max's parents and my mom. I see it as our responsibility and our pleasure.
Quote from: derspiess on July 17, 2012, 12:49:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 17, 2012, 12:36:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on July 17, 2012, 12:32:16 PM
Your mom still takes care of her boy, with all the meals she makes you. Lucky bastard.
LOL, don't buy into all the hype; if it's something she's made and she doesn't like it, it's passed on to me. "Well, I didn't like the way it turned out", or "it smelled funny". Thanks, Mom.
Now that I think of it, I'm averaging about one meal a week at my parent's house. With the wife's screwed-up work schedule, I have the kids by myself Sunday as well as Monday thru Wednesday evenings. With the kids driving me nuts & me being too lazy to cook, I usually find an excuse to go over there around dinnertime.
WHAT, YOU NEED HELP DOING SOMETHING ON YOUR COMPUTER THAT I COULD PROBABLY WALK YOU THROUGH OVER THE PHONE? I'LL BE OVER AT 6:15.
The only downside to eating over there is that they've started taking on some old-people traits. Like only buying sugar-free ice cream. I always tell Tommy it's okay not to eat it & that we can stop somewhere on the way home.
Graeter's is only a short drive away. :)
If I tried to feed my family Graeter's, I'd be in the poor house.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 17, 2012, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 17, 2012, 11:31:49 AM
Ditto.
Mom owed me twenty grand on the day I moved out. When the total reached $35,000 I gave up on it. A significant amount of my mother's existence is still subsidized by me, and I'm about to buy a house for her to live in.
How the fuck did you put together 20 large before graduating high school? :huh:
Moved out at 19. Had been working a couple years by then. Was promoted to uber fast food manager the day I turned 18 and it was legal for me to hold the position. :P
I graduated at 17 so no I didn't have that before graduating.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 17, 2012, 01:08:37 PM
Graeter's is only a short drive away. :)
When we had the apartment it was literally across the street. They make some damned good ice cream. Too good.
QuoteIf I tried to feed my family Graeter's, I'd be in the poor house.
It's free on your birthday. If everyone in your brood happened to have the same birthday: jackpot.
I never quite got the "Graeters is expensive" thing, but I never really went out for ice cream very often so I don't have a good frame of reference. Having seen how it's made (very labor intensive), I'm almost surprised it doesn't cost more.
BTW I like how they make their kosher certification available when you look for a location on their website: http://www.graeters.com/pdf/k_cincinnati.pdf
I'm down to feeding my kids 59 cent vanilla cones from Mickey D's. DADDY ONLY HAS 5 DOLLARS IN HIS WALLET.
Sell the youngest two to gypsies to feed the rest.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 17, 2012, 01:42:23 PM
Sell the youngest two to gypsies to feed the rest.
Great, Tamas is going to start sending me PM's.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 17, 2012, 01:45:41 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 17, 2012, 01:42:23 PM
Sell the youngest two to gypsies to feed the rest.
Great, Tamas is going to start sending me PM's.
Hope you can accept payment in beets.
No. That would be ridiculous.
My Mom would rather amputate her foot with a rusty spoon than accept help from any of her children. Heck she refused to allow me to invite her to Vienna (flight, food, lodging in either hotel or my apartment paid by me).
I don't take care of my father, for now, and he certainly doesn't care for me though he's still trying to decide what's good and what's not good for me.
Quote from: viper37 on July 17, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
I don't take care of my father, for now, and he certainly doesn't care for me though he's still trying to decide what's good and what's not good for me.
He will always be your father. I dont think I will ever stop worrying about/giving unsolicited advice to my boys.
Nope, as my parents are quite well off. I would if it were necessary of course.
All you trustafarians make me sick.
Anyone who has money flowing to them from their parents has nothing to complain about. Even if it is the mere absence of the requirment to give their parents money.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 17, 2012, 04:52:43 PM
All you trustafarians make me sick.
Not everyone can be blessed with a poverty-stricken background.
Quote from: Neil on July 17, 2012, 04:55:59 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 17, 2012, 04:52:43 PM
All you trustafarians make me sick.
Not everyone can be blessed with a poverty-stricken background.
True.
Occasionally i do, more to my mother than my dad.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 17, 2012, 04:55:36 PM
Anyone who has money flowing to them from their parents has nothing to complain about. Even if it is the mere absence of the requirment to give their parents money.
Actually, there was a plan in the works to make me the beneficiary of a trust - essentially because of the formation of a provincial park in Quebec creating an expropriation risk regarding the cottage my parents own jointly with my dad's sisters (long story). For various reasons it proved unnecessary ... but had it gone forward it would have made me, in my 40s, a trustifarian at last. :lol:
Quote from: Malthus on July 17, 2012, 05:00:25 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 17, 2012, 04:55:36 PM
Anyone who has money flowing to them from their parents has nothing to complain about. Even if it is the mere absence of the requirment to give their parents money.
Actually, there was a plan in the works to make me the beneficiary of a trust - essentially because of the formation of a provincial park in Quebec creating an expropriation risk regarding the cottage my parents own jointly with my dad's sisters (long story). For various reasons it proved unnecessary ... but had it gone forward it would have made me, in my 40s, a trustifarian at last. :lol:
Don't they usually grandfather those is? One of my secretaries in Whitehorse owned a cabin in the middle of a national park - because her family had owned it before the park was created.
Quote from: Barrister on July 17, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Don't they usually grandfather those is? One of my secretaries in Whitehorse owned a cabin in the middle of a national park - because her family had owned it before the park was created.
That's what eventually happened, yes. But for a while there was talk, as it turned out inaccurate, that the park would use some sort of creeping expropriation - that transfer to heirs would trigger a forced sale to the province.
Besides, it would be unwise to trust the province of Quebec. The rule of law doesn't extend there, and there is no protection unless your family name is Corleone.
My father, whom I talk to very frequently, is utterly bi-polar on the subject of his money and more secretive and closed than Stalin's USSR. I certainly don't get anything - the only question is whether my sister and I will need to support our parents once Dad retires. I honestly have no idea whether the man has $1 or $1,000,000 in savings.
I don't know anyone my age that makes anywhere near as much money as my parents do. In this our land of two-tiered labour protection, it's parents that help their "kids".
It's not financial help per se, as they're perfectly well off, but I give them small loans when something has to be done in the house and they don't have the money right away. I recently gave them 3.000€ until my mom got her first payment from her retirement fund. After all the help they've given me over the years it's the least I could do.
Quote from: Barrister on July 17, 2012, 11:31:21 AM
Mom is retired with a teacher's pension. Dad still works contract / part time. They appear to be doing okay.
Exactly the same as my parents. :cool:
I'll be happy when my mom can begin drawing her teacher's pension. I'm paranoid right now that she'll find some way to blow it and lose her job and pension and I'll have to take her on as a full-time dependent. She used to have my step-dad's SSA but now he's dead.
Throw momma from the train? :hmm:
Quote from: Syt on July 17, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
My Mom would rather amputate her foot with a rusty spoon than accept help from any of her children. Heck she refused to allow me to invite her to Vienna (flight, food, lodging in either hotel or my apartment paid by me).
Maybe she simply can't stand you?
Anyway, I help my parents to the tune of app. $2,000 per month. Considering their Polish communist era pensions give a grand total of app. $500 per month (they didn't work in the military or the secret service, where the pensions are high), it's needed.
I wish my parents were rich nomenklatura and could give me cash. :(
I see from his style that Marty's "boyfriend" asked for money again today.
1st and 15th of the month Tamas :contract:
Quote from: Martinus on July 18, 2012, 07:21:54 AM
Quote from: Syt on July 17, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
My Mom would rather amputate her foot with a rusty spoon than accept help from any of her children. Heck she refused to allow me to invite her to Vienna (flight, food, lodging in either hotel or my apartment paid by me).
Maybe she simply can't stand you?
Really? Yo Mama jokes?
Quote from: Syt on July 18, 2012, 08:02:37 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 18, 2012, 07:21:54 AM
Quote from: Syt on July 17, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
My Mom would rather amputate her foot with a rusty spoon than accept help from any of her children. Heck she refused to allow me to invite her to Vienna (flight, food, lodging in either hotel or my apartment paid by me).
Maybe she simply can't stand you?
Really? Yo Mama jokes?
:secret: That's not a Yo Mama joke.
Yo' Mama jokes are classy compared to that.
Quote from: Martinus on July 18, 2012, 07:24:59 AM
I wish my parents were rich nomenklatura and could give me cash. :(
Still after all these years the nomenklatura are making out eh? Dang selling out to the Russians is lucrative.
Quote from: Valmy on July 18, 2012, 08:53:04 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 18, 2012, 07:24:59 AM
I wish my parents were rich nomenklatura and could give me cash. :(
Still after all these years the nomenklatura are making out eh? Dang selling out to the Russians is lucrative.
Well, they were in a perfect position to get all the good deals and cheap assets when the communism was going bust and got a head start.
You know how they say you have to steal your first million? Imagine a clean slate capitalism where at the start a small group has the first million and everyone else does not have anything. ;)
Quote from: katmai on July 18, 2012, 07:33:31 AM
1st and 15th of the month Tamas :contract:
Actually, it's on a weekly basis. :P
And fuck you. :D
Quote from: Syt on July 18, 2012, 08:02:37 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 18, 2012, 07:21:54 AM
Quote from: Syt on July 17, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
My Mom would rather amputate her foot with a rusty spoon than accept help from any of her children. Heck she refused to allow me to invite her to Vienna (flight, food, lodging in either hotel or my apartment paid by me).
Maybe she simply can't stand you?
Really? Yo Mama jokes?
It's not really a Yo Mama joke. A Yo Mama joke is about disparaging someone else's mom. I am disparaging you. :P
Marty's mom is Polish, so one could perhaps make a crack involving getting invaded from three sides. :hmm:
The funny part in this thread is Marty pretending his family wasnt privileged in commie times.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 18, 2012, 09:03:48 AM
Marty's mom is Polish, so one could perhaps make a crack involving getting invaded from three sides. :hmm:
Yo Momma's so Polish the Germans and the Russians take turns?
How DARE you? :mad:
Quote from: Tamas on July 18, 2012, 09:22:13 AM
The funny part in this thread is Marty pretending his family wasnt privileged in commie times.
It wasn't, at least not in terms of the communist regime. My dad was a small entrepreneur - he owned a car repair garage. This meant he was actually considered a class enemy under the commie regime, but could eke a good existence because private services (read: being able to repair your car without waiting 3 years in a government car repair queue) were scarce.
Paradoxically, with the coming of capitalism this was no longer the case and since we had hyperinflation as we came out of communism, it didn't do you much good to save money. Fortunately, as he is also quite a talented artisan he collected a bunch of ruined antique cars during the 1980s and the 1990s and renovated them at a great personal time and cost expense and was first able to rent them out in the 1990s for movies and weddings and the like, and later on sell them on.
My mom was a small town medical doctor and earned pittance.
They never joined the communist party. My dad's two brothers were murdered in Katyn by the Soviets (by dad's dad was a kulak) and my mom's parents were in the pro-West resistance during the war, so they also were persecuted during the Stalinist era.
Quote from: Valmy on July 18, 2012, 09:40:41 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 18, 2012, 09:03:48 AM
Marty's mom is Polish, so one could perhaps make a crack involving getting invaded from three sides. :hmm:
Yo Momma's so Polish the Germans and the Russians take turns?
:lol:
Actually, my mom's first serious boyfriend was Hungarian. I shudder to think I could have been a compatriot of Tamas.
Once again Marti is pure class. Perhaps if he paid his boyfriend more Marti might get more and be less, well, like Marti.
Wow Marty is descended from heroes.
Quote from: Martinus on July 18, 2012, 07:24:59 AM
Anyway, I help my parents to the tune of app. $2,000 per month. Considering their Polish communist era pensions give a grand total of app. $500 per month (they didn't work in the military or the secret service, where the pensions are high), it's needed.
I wish my parents were rich nomenklatura and could give me cash. :(
How did I know this was coming when I saw this thread? He managed to hold it to page 2. Just barely.
No, they don't need it.