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Title: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on July 13, 2012, 10:15:27 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18770328 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18770328)

Uses BMI, so it has the usual problems with that metric.  Supposedly I am in the 83rd percentile for my age range in the US and 99th percentile in the world.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Barrister on July 13, 2012, 10:19:50 AM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on July 13, 2012, 10:15:27 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18770328 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18770328)

Uses BMI, so it has the usual problems with that metric.  Supposedly I am in the 83rd percentile for my age range in the US and 99th percentile in the world.

USA! USA!

Apparently I have a lower BMI than 67% of Canadians, but a higher BMI than 59% of the world (or at least males in my age range).
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Sheilbh on July 13, 2012, 10:21:16 AM
I'm below average than Brits (lower than 68%) but above average globally (61%) for males of my age range.  I'm most close to the Spanish average apparently :mellow:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: garbon on July 13, 2012, 10:22:38 AM
Below average in America, above average in the world. -_-

Except apparently they run my age group from 15-29.  Well yes, I do weigh more than typical 15 year olds!

Also I got told I'm like someone from Samoa. :mad: (though apparently Australia has an almost identical average to Samoa.)
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Zanza on July 13, 2012, 10:23:28 AM
I have a lower BMI than 70% of Germans in my age group, but higher than 60% of the world. :hmm:

"You're most like someone from Turkmenistan."  :lol:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 10:23:54 AM
Why so  :mellow: Shielbh?

Anyway I am less BMI-tastic than 56% of males in my age range in the US but...fatter than 81% of males of my age range world wide  :lol:

USA!  USA!

Anyway I am sized most like a Saudi.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 13, 2012, 10:26:30 AM
73% US 96% World  :showoff:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: 11B4V on July 13, 2012, 10:29:32 AM
QuoteYou're most like someone from Hungary*

:blink:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 13, 2012, 10:31:29 AM
Clearly, you've been eating too many beets.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Iormlund on July 13, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
66%, 58%.  :frog:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:03:01 AM
Ah yes, the old height v weight bullshit.  I'm not falling for that.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:03:01 AM
Ah yes, the old height v weight bullshit.  I'm not falling for that.

Your massive muscles always throwing it off eh?
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:25:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:03:01 AM
Ah yes, the old height v weight bullshit.  I'm not falling for that.

Your massive muscles always throwing it off eh?

I'm always amused how they say, at 5'8", I'm supposed to weigh 160 pounds with a 46" chest.  Some things are simply physiologically stupid.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Grey Fox on July 13, 2012, 11:25:39 AM
You're most like someone from Samoa

Woo! Can I be a Linebacker?
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Martinus on July 13, 2012, 11:34:22 AM
I'm below 68% of Poles but above 51% of all human beings. Apparently I'm like someone from Mauritania.  :huh:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: garbon on July 13, 2012, 11:39:23 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 13, 2012, 11:25:39 AM
You're most like someone from Samoa

Woo! Can I be a Linebacker?

No, we're just tubs of lard. :(
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Ed Anger on July 13, 2012, 03:30:47 PM
Quote
Your numbers
Obesity Index
23bmi
BMI is an estimate of how "overweight" or "obese" a person is
National
Below average
You have a lower BMI than 87% of males aged 30-44 in your country
Global
Below average
You have a lower BMI than 59% of males aged 30-44 in the world


Did you know?
If everyone in the world had the same BMI as you, it would remove 8,036,157 tonnes from the total weight of the world's population
You're most like someone from Malaysia*

Malaysia? Go fuck yourself BBC.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 03:49:27 PM
Wow Ed is one skinny guy.  I never would have guessed.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Iormlund on July 13, 2012, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 03:49:27 PM
Wow Ed is one skinny guy.  I never would have guessed.

Heh. I never imagine people as fat unless they are described as such.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 13, 2012, 03:56:38 PM
I imagined Boner as being pretty squishy.  Gimps usually are.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 04:18:12 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on July 13, 2012, 03:50:58 PMHeh. I never imagine people as fat unless they are described as such.

I did not imagine he was fat, I just did not think he was among the skinniest 15% of dudes in the US.  I figured those guys would be all vegans or something.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Fate on July 13, 2012, 04:33:11 PM
BMI of 21... and I'm most like someone from Myanmar.  :blush:

I wasn't suprised by a pacific island nation being #1, but I never knew Croatia and Greece were so fat compared to the US.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Ed Anger on July 13, 2012, 04:33:49 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 13, 2012, 03:56:38 PM
I imagined Boner as being pretty squishy.  Gimps usually are.

If I was actually a gimp. You people really need new material.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: DGuller on July 13, 2012, 04:47:51 PM
I have a lower BMI than 75% of Americans.  Wow, I didn't realize Americans were that fat.  I'm most like someone from Turkey.  Do we have any Armenians here?  :ph34r:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Ed Anger on July 13, 2012, 04:48:27 PM
Quote from: DGuller on July 13, 2012, 04:47:51 PM
I have a lower BMI than 75% of Americans.  Wow, I didn't realize Americans were that fat.  I'm most like someone from Turkey.  Do we have any Armenians here?  :ph34r:

Beat up Spellus.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Jacob on July 13, 2012, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 13, 2012, 04:33:49 PMYou people really need new material.

Yeah that's bloody likely.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: mongers on July 13, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
Quote
National - Below average
You have a lower BMI than 96% of males aged 45-59 in your country

Global  - Below average
You have a lower BMI than 76% of males aged 45-59 in the world

You're most like someone from Sri Lanka

:blink:

God grief there must be some lard arses about to skew the figures so much.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Ed Anger on July 13, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
Quote from: Jacob on July 13, 2012, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 13, 2012, 04:33:49 PMYou people really need new material.

Yeah that's bloody likely.

They could have accused me of running meth labs like Fatmai did.

LOL, I need new material.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: katmai on July 13, 2012, 05:40:11 PM
? wha? I don't ever recall accusing you of running Meth.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Ed Anger on July 13, 2012, 05:42:51 PM
Quote from: katmai on July 13, 2012, 05:40:11 PM
? wha? I don't ever recall accusing you of running Meth.

You(or your evil twin) made a joke about me having a chain of meth labs in the back room. No harm, no foul.  :)
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: DGuller on July 13, 2012, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 13, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
Quote
National - Below average
You have a lower BMI than 96% of males aged 45-59 in your country

Global  - Below average
You have a lower BMI than 76% of males aged 45-59 in the world

You're most like someone from Sri Lanka

:blink:

God grief there must be some lard arses about to skew the figures so much.
Good god, a starving African male is probably fatter than you.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: mongers on July 13, 2012, 05:59:19 PM
Quote from: DGuller on July 13, 2012, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 13, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
Quote
National - Below average
You have a lower BMI than 96% of males aged 45-59 in your country

Global  - Below average
You have a lower BMI than 76% of males aged 45-59 in the world

You're most like someone from Sri Lanka

:blink:

God grief there must be some lard arses about to skew the figures so much.
Good god, a starving African male is probably fatter than you.

No I think it's a consequence of the BMI issue and that by my age, the vast majority of Brits and Usians have really let themselves go.

In the immediate post-war period I think Id have been very typical of a British male of working age.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: DGuller on July 13, 2012, 06:18:46 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 13, 2012, 05:59:19 PM
In the immediate post-war period I think Id have been very typical of a British male of working age.
A British Jewish male, straight out of Dachau, maybe.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: mongers on July 13, 2012, 06:45:53 PM
Quote from: DGuller on July 13, 2012, 06:18:46 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 13, 2012, 05:59:19 PM
In the immediate post-war period I think Id have been very typical of a British male of working age.
A British Jewish male, straight out of Dachau, maybe.

:blink:

A for instance, the British guy leading the Tour de France is exactly my weight, but he's got another 5 1/2 inches of height on me, admittedly he looks thin, but he's probably in the best form of his life.

So no way am I undernourished or overly thin, to be somewhat serious many of the holocaust servivors or SE Asia/ Pacific war POWs ended up well below 50kg.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: stjaba on July 13, 2012, 07:01:09 PM
My BMI is 25, putting me in the 32nd percentile of American men my age, and in the 77th pecentile of men worldwide. Apparently, I'm most like someone from Bulgaria.  <_<
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: merithyn on July 13, 2012, 09:18:55 PM
I refuse to answer on the basis that this fucking sucks.  <_<

Even after losing 11 pounds, I'm still practically a fucking Samoan.  :mad:

EDIT: Sadly, I'm in the mid-range for other women my age in the US.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 09:45:43 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 13, 2012, 11:25:39 AM
You're most like someone from Samoa

Woo! Can I be a Linebacker?

lol, I just did the test; it said Micronesia.   :lol:


MOM SAYS IM JUST BIG BONED
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Capetan Mihali on July 13, 2012, 11:34:55 PM
Lower than 93% of Americans, 65% of the world.   Most like... Uganda.  :outback:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Josquius on July 13, 2012, 11:38:39 PM
I should really buy a pair of scales, I'm uncertain on my weight.
I took a guess and its broken for me, says I'm lighter than 100% of other Brits and am most like someone from the Congo.
edit- aha, it says metres, not centimetres. No wonder.

Took a guess at my weight at the highest possible value (though I think I am lighter than that) and...lighter than 65% of adult male Brits (74% taking what I think is a more likely weight) and higher than half-65% of people in the world. Wow. Brits are teh fat.
Guess its as I've said, I don't care about weight loss, just need to generally get in shape.

Anyway. One thing I've discovered here is that BMI is different in Japan. They have a much lower threshold for when you become fat, obese, thin, etc...- I guess its because Japanese people are naturally a lot more slightly built than white folks.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Cecil on July 14, 2012, 12:40:20 AM
Ok I´m going to sue that damn thing for defamation.  :mad:


Your numbers
Obesity Index
21bmi
BMI is an estimate of how "overweight" or "obese" a person is
National
Below average
You have a lower BMI than 91% of males aged 30-44 in your country
Global
Below average
You have a lower BMI than 74% of males aged 30-44 in the world


Did you know?
If everyone in the world had the same BMI as you, it would remove 29,327,825 tonnes from the total weight of the world's population
You're most like someone from North Korea*

North fucking korea? Thanks a lot for that. :(
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on July 14, 2012, 01:44:13 AM
Quote from: mongers on July 13, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
Quote
National - Below average
You have a lower BMI than 96% of males aged 45-59 in your country

Global  - Below average
You have a lower BMI than 76% of males aged 45-59 in the world

You're most like someone from Sri Lanka

:blink:

God grief there must be some lard arses about to skew the figures so much.

You have a lower BMI than 71% of males aged 45-59 in your country.......

You're most like someone from France  :frog:

I'm the same height as my old man and have one of his old army uniforms from c.1970. For a laugh I tried it on and looked most martial and imposing. However, the uniform dates to a period when he was away from the family and living in the mess.....booze every night, regimental dinners.........etc etc. When he came and visited us he was roundly told off for being fat, when I tell people I'm trying to lose weight they often remark that there is no need. Interesting how our perceptions of a normal bodyshape have mutated over that 40-year period  :hmm:

Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Cecil on July 14, 2012, 01:51:56 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 14, 2012, 01:44:13 AM
Quote from: mongers on July 13, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
Quote
National - Below average
You have a lower BMI than 96% of males aged 45-59 in your country

Global  - Below average
You have a lower BMI than 76% of males aged 45-59 in the world

You're most like someone from Sri Lanka

:blink:

God grief there must be some lard arses about to skew the figures so much.

You have a lower BMI than 71% of males aged 45-59 in your country.......

You're most like someone from France  :frog:

I'm the same height as my old man and have one of his old army uniforms from c.1970. For a laugh I tried it on and looked most martial and imposing. However, the uniform dates to a period when he was away from the family and living in the mess.....booze every night, regimental dinners.........etc etc. When he came and visited us he was roundly told off for being fat, when I tell people I'm trying to lose weight they often remark that there is no need. Interesting how our perceptions of a normal bodyshape have mutated over that 40-year period  :hmm:

Well while I´m not sure about it the brits are the fattest in europa by quite a bit these days no?
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Josquius on July 14, 2012, 01:56:22 AM
Quote
Well while I´m not sure about it the brits are the fattest in europa by quite a bit these days no?
That's the Maltese IIRC.
Cypriots and Greeks might be up there too.
But Brits certainly rank high, especially for north Europeans.


Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 14, 2012, 01:44:13 AM


You have a lower BMI than 71% of males aged 45-59 in your country.......

You're most like someone from France  :frog:

I'm the same height as my old man and have one of his old army uniforms from c.1970. For a laugh I tried it on and looked most martial and imposing. However, the uniform dates to a period when he was away from the family and living in the mess.....booze every night, regimental dinners.........etc etc. When he came and visited us he was roundly told off for being fat, when I tell people I'm trying to lose weight they often remark that there is no need. Interesting how our perceptions of a normal bodyshape have mutated over that 40-year period  :hmm:



Yeah.
Just before I came here when I was at my most out shape and podgiest I ran into an elderly great aunt I hadn't seen for a while. She kept saying how healthy I looked these days now I had some shape in my face and all that sort of thing.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Legbiter on July 14, 2012, 03:12:21 AM
Apparently the West got lazy, degenerate and subsequently fat at roughly the mid/late 70's when the food pyramid shifted to recommending 50-60% of your calories should come from carbohydrates. This was done in wake of the uncalled for demonization of saturated fat despite the terribly flawed studies purporting to show direct link between SF and blood cholesterol and that those two were equal to the chance of heart disease.

The real cause of lardassness?

1. Sugar and grains in almost everything you buy that comes in a box (that and/or HFCS).

2. Horrid, rancid & processed vegetable fats, high in Omega 6 (soy, rapeseed/canola, peanut, etc). The latest research (not done by nutrionists thank God) suggests that the excessive Western carbohydrate intake coupled with the Omega 6 oils causes systemic inflammation in the body which causes cholesterol to behave abnormally and to settle in clots. The tragedy is that an entire generation of nutritionists and lifestyle gurus will have to die off before anybody will shift gears.

My diet advice to the katmais of this world would consist of a very large porterhouse steak cooked in real butter with as much bearnaise sauce (homemade) and coloful salad as they could handle at lunch and dinner with no snacking whatsoever in between. Fat and protein contain actual, vital nutrients as opposed to, say, Pringles. Add in more starch from fruits, tubers and berries once the blubber is off.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Martinus on July 14, 2012, 04:25:11 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 03:49:27 PM
Wow Ed is one skinny guy.  I never would have guessed.

Yeah, surprised about that. I mean I didn't think he was fat, but his BMI is lower than mine.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Martinus on July 14, 2012, 04:27:11 AM
Quote from: stjaba on July 13, 2012, 07:01:09 PM
My BMI is 25, putting me in the 32nd percentile of American men my age, and in the 77th pecentile of men worldwide. Apparently, I'm most like someone from Bulgaria.  <_<

I'm also 25, but I'm older.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 14, 2012, 04:43:41 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 14, 2012, 04:25:11 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 03:49:27 PM
Wow Ed is one skinny guy.  I never would have guessed.

Yeah, surprised about that. I mean I didn't think he was fat, but his BMI is lower than mine.

Fucking a child bride like a bunny and popping out 5 kids burns some calories, man.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: katmai on July 14, 2012, 05:07:23 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on July 14, 2012, 03:12:21 AM


My diet advice to the katmais of this world would consist of a very large porterhouse steak cooked in real butter with as much bearnaise sauce (homemade) and coloful salad as they could handle at lunch and dinner with no snacking whatsoever in between. Fat and protein contain actual, vital nutrients as opposed to, say, Pringles. Add in more starch from fruits, tubers and berries once the blubber is off.


Ahem..
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: jimmy olsen on July 14, 2012, 05:07:45 AM
BMI 23
Lower than 88% of Americans my age in the US, and lower than 60% world wide.

EDIT: Lol, most like someone from Lesotho
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: jimmy olsen on July 14, 2012, 05:12:46 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:25:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:03:01 AM
Ah yes, the old height v weight bullshit.  I'm not falling for that.

Your massive muscles always throwing it off eh?

I'm always amused how they say, at 5'8", I'm supposed to weigh 160 pounds with a 46" chest.  Some things are simply physiologically stupid.
I'm 5'8" and I weigh about 150.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: katmai on July 14, 2012, 05:13:26 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:25:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:03:01 AM
Ah yes, the old height v weight bullshit.  I'm not falling for that.

Your massive muscles always throwing it off eh?

I'm always amused how they say, at 5'8", I'm supposed to weigh 160 pounds with a 46" chest.  Some things are simply physiologically stupid.

Yes the BMI is so fucking dumb.

I love how Ray Rice & Maurice Jones Drew are sitting at 32bmi :lol:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: katmai on July 14, 2012, 05:14:59 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 14, 2012, 05:12:46 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:25:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:03:01 AM
Ah yes, the old height v weight bullshit.  I'm not falling for that.

Your massive muscles always throwing it off eh?

I'm always amused how they say, at 5'8", I'm supposed to weigh 160 pounds with a 46" chest.  Some things are simply physiologically stupid.
I'm 5'8" and I weigh about 150.

:frusty:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 14, 2012, 06:06:29 AM
Quote from: katmai on July 14, 2012, 05:14:59 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 14, 2012, 05:12:46 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:25:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 13, 2012, 11:03:01 AM
Ah yes, the old height v weight bullshit.  I'm not falling for that.

Your massive muscles always throwing it off eh?

I'm always amused how they say, at 5'8", I'm supposed to weigh 160 pounds with a 46" chest.  Some things are simply physiologically stupid.
I'm 5'8" and I weigh about 150.

:frusty:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: DGuller on July 14, 2012, 09:14:04 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 14, 2012, 04:25:11 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 13, 2012, 03:49:27 PM
Wow Ed is one skinny guy.  I never would have guessed.

Yeah, surprised about that. I mean I didn't think he was fat, but his BMI is lower than mine.
I guess running after all those kids on his lawn, trying to get them into the shotgun range, is good for his physique.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Ed Anger on July 14, 2012, 09:29:21 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Maximus on July 14, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Wow, BMI. :lol: I can't believe people are still falling for that.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: The Brain on July 15, 2012, 11:44:09 AM
I'm from Myanmar.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Brazen on July 15, 2012, 12:28:11 PM
I got a link to the original research and "fat scale" weeks ago. If you actually read what the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine were trying to get over, it was planning for future global food needs based on calorific requirements by country.

QuoteMethods
For each country we used data on body mass index (BMI) and height distribution to estimate
average adult body mass. We calculated total biomass as the product of population size and
average body mass. We estimated the percentage of the population that is overweight
(BMI > 25) and obese (BMI > 30) and the biomass due to overweight and obesity.

Results
In 2005, global adult human biomass was approximately 287 million tonnes, of which 15
million tonnes were due to overweight (BMI > 25), a mass equivalent to that of 242 million
people of average body mass (5% of global human biomass). Biomass due to obesity was 3.5
million tonnes, the mass equivalent of 56 million people of average body mass (1.2% of
human biomass). North America has 6% of the world population but 34% of biomass due to
obesity. Asia has 61% of the world population but 13% of biomass due to obesity. One tonne
of human biomass corresponds to approximately 12 adults in North America and 17 adults in
Asia. If all countries had the BMI distribution of the USA, the increase in human biomass of
58 million tonnes would be equivalent in mass to an extra 935 million people of average body
mass, and have energy requirements equivalent to that of 473 million adults.

Conclusions
Increasing population fatness could have the same implications for world food energy
demands as an extra half a billion people living on the earth
.

Bloody media needs more proper science journalists  <_<
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: mongers on July 15, 2012, 12:46:05 PM
Quote from: Brazen on July 15, 2012, 12:28:11 PM
I got a link to the original research and "fat scale" weeks ago. If you actually read what the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine were trying to get over, it was planning for future global food needs based on calorific requirements by country.

......

Bloody media needs more proper science journalists  <_<

I don't know it seems a rather long  winded and somewhat 'academic' way of going about this.

All the figures are already out there, the UN FAO produce food production and consumption statistics by country every year.

The 'global' problem seems to be one of waste, distribution and nutrients balance with in my opinion, the issue of obesity coming lower down.

Or is this in part another attempt by healthy euro academics to portray the problem as one of Fatty USains 'consuming' the planet.  :P
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Siege on July 15, 2012, 01:05:34 PM
Your numbers
Obesity Index

27bmi
BMI is an estimate of how "overweight" or "obese" a person is National

Below average
You have a lower BMI than 67% of males aged 30-44 in your country Global

Above average
You have a higher BMI than 71% of males aged 30-44 in the world


Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Brazen on July 15, 2012, 02:47:57 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 15, 2012, 12:46:05 PM
All the figures are already out there, the UN FAO produce food production and consumption statistics by country every year.
They don't plan for the future based on the calorie consumption by average weight by country. The heavier we get, the more food we consume, not just the converse.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: mongers on July 15, 2012, 04:41:09 PM
Quote from: Brazen on July 15, 2012, 02:47:57 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 15, 2012, 12:46:05 PM
All the figures are already out there, the UN FAO produce food production and consumption statistics by country every year.
They don't plan for the future based on the calorie consumption by average weight by country. The heavier we get, the more food we consume, not just the converse.

I'm not sure planning is at all useful as most foodstuffs are commodities, traded and so subject to price fluctuations. And for the majority of the worlds people their diets are largely influence by the market price and how much they can afford.

And my main point is there's more than enough food in the world for everyone; hunger and perhaps some of the over consumption could be 'solved' by concentrating on waste, fairer distribution and only then fine tuned by promoting a healthier diet.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Valmy on July 16, 2012, 09:00:41 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 14, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Wow, BMI. :lol: I can't believe people are still falling for that.

The myth that people have both a height and a weight?
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: The Brain on July 16, 2012, 09:02:37 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2012, 09:00:41 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 14, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Wow, BMI. :lol: I can't believe people are still falling for that.

The myth that people have both a height and a weight?

BMI uses Jewish mathematics.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: katmai on July 16, 2012, 09:03:00 AM
So the answer for Valmy would be yes :console:
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 16, 2012, 09:53:44 AM
Quote from: Cecil on July 14, 2012, 12:40:20 AM
North fucking korea? Thanks a lot for that. :(

You know, on account they're starving.

p.s. This is the first I've heard of Ed's meth lab. How's the profitability compare to the farming and consulting gigs?
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Razgovory on July 16, 2012, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2012, 09:00:41 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 14, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Wow, BMI. :lol: I can't believe people are still falling for that.

The myth that people have both a height and a weight?

I'm a two dimensional poster with only one shtick.  I lack one of these.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Maximus on July 16, 2012, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 16, 2012, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2012, 09:00:41 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 14, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Wow, BMI. :lol: I can't believe people are still falling for that.

The myth that people have both a height and a weight?

I'm a two dimensional poster with only one shtick.  I lack one of these.
Those are two dimensions.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: merithyn on July 16, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2012, 09:00:41 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 14, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Wow, BMI. :lol: I can't believe people are still falling for that.

The myth that people have both a height and a weight?

The myth that those two factors solely account for a person's health.
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: Jacob on July 16, 2012, 01:14:57 PM
Quote from: merithyn on July 16, 2012, 01:10:08 PMThe myth that those two factors solely account for a person's health.

Is anyone in this thread or the original BBC article propagating that myth?
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: DGuller on July 16, 2012, 01:15:21 PM
Quote from: merithyn on July 16, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2012, 09:00:41 AM
Quote from: Maximus on July 14, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Wow, BMI. :lol: I can't believe people are still falling for that.

The myth that people have both a height and a weight?

The myth that those two factors solely account for a person's health.
Who said anything about that?
Title: Re: BBC's global fat scale
Post by: merithyn on July 16, 2012, 01:19:08 PM
Quote from: Jacob on July 16, 2012, 01:14:57 PM

Is anyone in this thread or the original BBC article propagating that myth?

That's what the BMI is. Using only height and weight, it purports to tell people whether or not they're healthy. It's used by health insurance companies to determine coverage, by the general public to determine if they should go on a diet, and by articles like this to decide how much people will eat in the future to determine how much should be grown.