I have to put in a toilet paper holder. Do dry wall anchors go into the wood stud or can they just go into the drywall
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 03, 2012, 06:23:14 PM
I have to put in a toilet paper holder. Do dry wall anchors go into the wood stud or can they just go into the drywall
Anchor one side in a stud if you can, then use the drywall anchors (get the metal expanding kind, not the plastic jobs) for the other side (or both, if the stud is just too close/far away).
If you're screwing it in to a stud you don't need to use an anchor, no. Use one of those stud finder tools to be sure, though.
Thanks guys!
grumbles and Caliga have no idea what they are talking about :rolleyes:
Why would you screw it in a stud? Its all about the position of the holder in relation to the bowl. Get a recessed holder and be done with it.
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I win the thread.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 03, 2012, 08:11:18 PM
Why would you screw it in a stud?
I guess they're very aggressive with their toilet paper usage. Can't be ripping it out of the wall when you hulk out on the toilet.
Duct tape it to the wall.
Just sit the toilet paper on the counter. It's right there.
Quote from: Ideologue on June 03, 2012, 09:38:27 PM
Just sit the toilet paper on the counter. It's right there.
No shit, you know? You can just grab n' wrap.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 03, 2012, 08:21:11 PM
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I win the thread.
No built-in iPad recharging dock? Fail.
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 03, 2012, 09:57:20 PM
No built-in iPad recharging dock? Fail.
But it has an old school paper-and-ink Soviet era charm to it. I think it's called a "magazine".
I'll either have to glue it to the wall, or hire someone to do it. The first option isn't desirable because it will fall off quite easily. I have zero confidence in my ability to screw holes in ceramic tiles without damaging them. As a matter of fact I don't have any tools to do that.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 03, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
I'll either have to glue it to the wall, or hire someone to do it. The first option isn't desirable because it will fall off quite easily. I have zero confidence in my ability to screw holes in ceramic tiles without damaging them. As a matter of fact I don't have any tools to do that.
You Tube is your friend doing simple household shit like that.
Youtube is banned in China. :w00t:
Quote from: Jaron on June 03, 2012, 10:26:15 PM
Youtube is banned in China. :w00t:
I can watch Youtube with no problem in HK. China has its own version of video sharing network (I think there are a couple in fact). Pretty sure the household fixing stuff isn't banned :P
Quote from: 11B4V on June 03, 2012, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 03, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
I'll either have to glue it to the wall, or hire someone to do it. The first option isn't desirable because it will fall off quite easily. I have zero confidence in my ability to screw holes in ceramic tiles without damaging them. As a matter of fact I don't have any tools to do that.
You Tube is your friend doing simple household shit like that.
Use the CdM option then.
I just spent US$65 to hire someone to clear two clogged sinks. My wife and I tried a variety of ways to fix them without success. I wish I knew how to do this myself :Embarrass:
Quote from: 11B4V on June 03, 2012, 10:29:29 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 03, 2012, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 03, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
I'll either have to glue it to the wall, or hire someone to do it. The first option isn't desirable because it will fall off quite easily. I have zero confidence in my ability to screw holes in ceramic tiles without damaging them. As a matter of fact I don't have any tools to do that.
You Tube is your friend doing simple household shit like that.
Use the CdM option then.
There is no way I have that much space in the toilet.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 03, 2012, 10:31:36 PM
I just spent US$65 to hire someone to clear two clogged sinks. My wife and I tried a variety of ways to fix them without success. I wish I knew how to do this myself :Embarrass:
What did you try?
Quote from: Caliga on June 04, 2012, 05:43:49 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 03, 2012, 10:31:36 PM
I just spent US$65 to hire someone to clear two clogged sinks. My wife and I tried a variety of ways to fix them without success. I wish I knew how to do this myself :Embarrass:
What did you try?
1. Plunger.
2. Chemical warfare.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 04, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: Caliga on June 04, 2012, 05:43:49 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 03, 2012, 10:31:36 PM
I just spent US$65 to hire someone to clear two clogged sinks. My wife and I tried a variety of ways to fix them without success. I wish I knew how to do this myself :Embarrass:
What did you try?
1. Plunger.
2. Chemical warfare.
Was the sink it self clogged? (wall to sink drain.) Normally it's in the "j"-tube or some people call it a trap. That's easy to fix.
http://www.homeownercare.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/sink-trap-water-vent-system-in-house.jpg
Or was it further back in, where the pipes enter the wall?
Quote from: Ideologue on June 03, 2012, 09:38:27 PM
Just sit the toilet paper on the counter. It's right there.
Especially since the one built into the wall is always too fucking low so you have to bend your knees and side to grab it and then still yank twice what you need.
Quote from: Caliga on June 04, 2012, 05:43:49 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 03, 2012, 10:31:36 PM
I just spent US$65 to hire someone to clear two clogged sinks. My wife and I tried a variety of ways to fix them without success. I wish I knew how to do this myself :Embarrass:
What did you try?
Liquid Prummer.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 04, 2012, 06:09:51 AM
Was the sink it self clogged? (wall to sink drain.) Normally it's in the "j"-tube or some people call it a trap. That's easy to fix.
http://www.homeownercare.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/sink-trap-water-vent-system-in-house.jpg
Or was it further back in, where the pipes enter the wall?
I have no idea. All I know is that water is going down the drain at an unsatisfactory speed.
Quote from: Ideologue on June 03, 2012, 09:38:27 PM
Just sit the toilet paper on the counter. It's right there.
No, you'd have to stand up and walk a few feet to the counter.
If I have to ask about using a stud or an anchor I sure as hell am not gonna be sawing through drywall for a recessed holder.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 04, 2012, 06:40:49 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 03, 2012, 09:38:27 PM
Just sit the toilet paper on the counter. It's right there.
No, you'd have to stand up and walk a few feet to the counter.
Your shitter isn't near the sink counter? What do you do, play racquetball in there?
If you don't want to have to turn around to grab it off the tank, can you at least leave it on the edge of the tub?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2012, 06:47:10 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 04, 2012, 06:40:49 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 03, 2012, 09:38:27 PM
Just sit the toilet paper on the counter. It's right there.
No, you'd have to stand up and walk a few feet to the counter.
Your shitter isn't near the sink counter? What do you do, play racquetball in there?
If you don't want to have to turn around to grab it off the tank, can you at least leave it on the edge of the tub?
Not near the tub. It'd have to be on the tank.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 03, 2012, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: Jaron on June 03, 2012, 10:26:15 PM
Youtube is banned in China. :w00t:
I can watch Youtube with no problem in HK. China has its own version of video sharing network (I think there are a couple in fact). Pretty sure the household fixing stuff isn't banned :P
Unless it is a code!
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 03, 2012, 06:23:14 PM
I have to put in a toilet paper holder. Do dry wall anchors go into the wood stud or can they just go into the drywall
they go into the wood stud, they are meant to go there, to hang on to something after crossing the drywall.
Quote from: viper37 on June 04, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
they go into the wood stud, they are meant to go there, to hang on to something after crossing the drywall.
:yeahright: The whole point of a drywall anchor is it anchors to drywall. If you're fastening to a stud you just use a screw.
That said I don't think I'd trust a toilet paper holder to drywall anchors. With that many forces acting on it even the best drywall anchors will eventually loosen up and tear out.
Quote from: Maximus on June 04, 2012, 04:49:09 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 04, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
they go into the wood stud, they are meant to go there, to hang on to something after crossing the drywall.
:yeahright: The whole point of a drywall anchor is it anchors to drywall. If you're fastening to a stud you just use a screw.
That said I don't think I'd trust a toilet paper holder to drywall anchors. With that many forces acting on it even the best drywall anchors will eventually loosen up and tear out.
What do you do to your TP holder, hang from it?
It's not the magnitude of the forces, but the number and variety. Drywall is quite soft. All those little bumps and tugs will leave an impression and one it's loose the forces become magnified.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2012, 06:47:10 AM
Your shitter isn't near the sink counter? What do you do, play racquetball in there?
My master shitter is set off in a little closet-like area. We have a little wire roll cart in there where we keep the extras, though.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2012, 06:47:10 AM
Your shitter isn't near the sink counter? What do you do, play racquetball in there?
I know a guy (very successful doctor) who has a bathroom nearly as big as my whole flat. It has the same things any bathroom has and for the most part (not the bathtub) they are all exactly the same size as everyone else's. So they are scattered around, seemingly at random. It's ridiculous. :lol:
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on June 04, 2012, 08:31:47 PM
My master shitter is set off in a little closet-like area. We have a little wire roll cart in there where we keep the extras, though.
Same. We almost never use that one, ironically... instead we use the upstairs 'guest' bathroom where the toilet is in fact right next to the sink.
Quote from: Maximus on June 04, 2012, 05:16:40 PM
It's not the magnitude of the forces, but the number and variety. Drywall is quite soft. All those little bumps and tugs will leave an impression and one it's loose the forces become magnified.
Katmai says you are wrong, and that drywall doesn't crumble under pressure or vibration.
I, of course, recognize that you are correct, and further argue that anything that can be anchored in a stud should be anchored in a stud.
Quote from: Maximus on June 04, 2012, 04:49:09 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 04, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
they go into the wood stud, they are meant to go there, to hang on to something after crossing the drywall.
:yeahright: The whole point of a drywall anchor is it anchors to drywall. If you're fastening to a stud you just use a screw.
That said I don't think I'd trust a toilet paper holder to drywall anchors. With that many forces acting on it even the best drywall anchors will eventually loosen up and tear out.
I tought he meant the screw... But I see now what he's talking about, so my bad. It doesn't go through the wood.
Quote from: grumbler on June 05, 2012, 07:53:46 AM
Quote from: Maximus on June 04, 2012, 05:16:40 PM
It's not the magnitude of the forces, but the number and variety. Drywall is quite soft. All those little bumps and tugs will leave an impression and one it's loose the forces become magnified.
Katmai says you are wrong, and that drywall doesn't crumble under pressure or vibration.
I, of course, recognize that you are correct, and further argue that anything that can be anchored in a stud should be anchored in a stud.
grumbles of all people, trying to tell me what I'm saying! :lol:
Quote from: Iormlund on June 04, 2012, 08:45:18 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2012, 06:47:10 AM
Your shitter isn't near the sink counter? What do you do, play racquetball in there?
I know a guy (very successful doctor) who has a bathroom nearly as big as my whole flat. It has the same things any bathroom has and for the most part (not the bathtub) they are all exactly the same size as everyone else's. So they are scattered around, seemingly at random. It's ridiculous. :lol:
I blame real estate porn. ;)
"Oh look, the ensuite bathroom of the master bedroom is so large it has its own ensuite bathroom!"
Trust the drywall anchors (or plasterboard rawlplugs as we call them here). They've kept up coat hooks, towel rails, medicine cabinets and, yes, toilet roll holders for me. I'm qualified, I own a cordless power drill.
Physics mean the forces travel down the length of the wall, not pulling out of it.
Just make sure the paper hangs on the outside, not next to the wall.
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Seriously, though, I've used one of the 3M hooks for a coat hanger, and that thing has held two of my coats (and they are not light, I am a big guy) for several months without fail.
Quote from: Malthus on June 05, 2012, 04:02:47 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on June 04, 2012, 08:45:18 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2012, 06:47:10 AM
Your shitter isn't near the sink counter? What do you do, play racquetball in there?
I know a guy (very successful doctor) who has a bathroom nearly as big as my whole flat. It has the same things any bathroom has and for the most part (not the bathtub) they are all exactly the same size as everyone else's. So they are scattered around, seemingly at random. It's ridiculous. :lol:
I blame real estate porn. ;)
"Oh look, the ensuite bathroom of the master bedroom is so large it has its own ensuite bathroom!"
Fun Ed Anger fact: The Master Suite at my current home is larger than the 1st house I bought.
I actually bought some command things the other day as a backup in case I fuck up the anchor. I'm using them for pictures so it should do for a roll of toilet paper.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 05, 2012, 08:39:31 PM
I actually bought some command things the other day as a backup in case I fuck up the anchor. I'm using them for pictures so it should do for a roll of toilet paper.
I haven't done pictures yet...that is a risk I'm not sure I would take. I'll probably stick to things that would easily survive a fall.
I've hung about a dozen pictures/paintings in my house. Never had anything fall off the wall.
Wait till the tornadoes hit Dorthy.