Quote from: Dan Rather
"This reporter has been told that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has metastatic rhabdomyosarcoma, an aggressive cancer that has 'entered the end stage.' The information and the quote come from a highly respected source close to Chavez and who is in a position to know his medical condition and history. This source says the prognosis is dire and that Chavez is now not expected to live 'more than a couple of months at most.' Chavez is running for re-election in Venezuela but several sources--including the one who revealed the exact kind of cancer-- have told me that they believe it is doubtful the dictator will live to see the results.
I didn't know Dan Rather was still working, but hey. (http://www.businessinsider.com/hugo-chavez-illness-dan-rather-2012-5#ixzz1wNOOfod2)
Cindy Sheehan better get cracking on her eulogy poem.
Cool, so now Venezuela can have their own Eternal Leader.
I look forward to all the conspiracy theories.
MiM,
Rather has hour long news show on HDNet channel.
Quote from: katmai on May 30, 2012, 12:55:15 PM
MiM,
Rather has hour long news show on HDNet channel.
And he still fucking rocks.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2012, 01:04:07 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 30, 2012, 12:55:15 PM
MiM,
Rather has hour long news show on HDNet channel.
And he still fucking rocks.
I'm sure you've been in love with him since Rathergate.
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 01:16:03 PM
I'm sure you've been in love with him since Rathergate.
I've been in love with him since Gunga Dan.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 30, 2012, 12:51:32 PM
Cindy Sheehan better get cracking on her eulogy poem.
Looks like Republicans will need to find a new bogyman.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
Looks like Republicans will need to find a new bogyman.
Why do Republicans need a bogeyman at all?
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
Looks like Republicans will need to find a new bogyman.
Not until January 20, 2013, at least. ;)
:(
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 30, 2012, 02:07:57 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
Looks like Republicans will need to find a new bogyman.
Why do Republicans need a bogeyman at all?
Why don't you tell me. While you are at it, why did Republicans fixate on Chavez?
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Why don't you tell me. While you are at it, why did Republicans fixate on Chavez?
The reason I don't tell you is because I don't think they need one.
As to Chavez, your question is based on a flawed premise.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 30, 2012, 02:07:57 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
Looks like Republicans will need to find a new bogyman.
Why do Republicans need a bogeyman at all?
Why don't you tell me. While you are at it, why did Republicans fixate on Chavez?
I think Chavez is far, far more fixated on the US than anyone in the US is fixated on Chavez...
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 30, 2012, 02:48:06 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Why don't you tell me. While you are at it, why did Republicans fixate on Chavez?
The reason I don't tell you is because I don't think they need one.
As to Chavez, your question is based on a flawed premise.
For people who don't need bogymen they certainly fixate on a bunch of them.
What is the flawed premise? That Republicans didn't fixate on them? I can't think of any other leader in Latin American besides Castro that Republicans have mentioned so much.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Why don't you tell me. While you are at it, why did Republicans fixate on Chavez?
Are they really that fixated on him? They'll mention him scornfully once in a while, but it's not like he doesn't deserve it.
Quote from: Barrister on May 30, 2012, 02:59:56 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 30, 2012, 02:07:57 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
Looks like Republicans will need to find a new bogyman.
Why do Republicans need a bogeyman at all?
Why don't you tell me. While you are at it, why did Republicans fixate on Chavez?
I think Chavez is far, far more fixated on the US than anyone in the US is fixated on Chavez...
True, but irrelevant. A lot of countries fixate on the US. The US is the most powerful country in the world. You noticed the guys above you. You don't care nearly as much as about people below you. Does anyone here know who the head of state is for Costa Rica off the top of their heads? What about Chad?
Quote from: Barrister on May 30, 2012, 02:59:56 PM
I think Chavez is far, far more fixated on the US than anyone in the US is fixated on Chavez...
They should bury him facing Texas to he can keep vigil.
Quote from: DGuller on May 30, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Why don't you tell me. While you are at it, why did Republicans fixate on Chavez?
Are they really that fixated on him? They'll mention him scornfully once in a while, but it's not like he doesn't deserve it.
I remember on Pdox conservatives were worried he was going to invade the US.
Quote from: DGuller on May 30, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
Are they really that fixated on him? They'll mention him scornfully once in a while, but it's not like he doesn't deserve it.
Wow Raz has made DG defend the Republicans.
Getting the feeling Raz is coming out of the closet as a Chavez fanboy. Who'd a'thunk it?
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 03:06:46 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 30, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Why don't you tell me. While you are at it, why did Republicans fixate on Chavez?
Are they really that fixated on him? They'll mention him scornfully once in a while, but it's not like he doesn't deserve it.
I remember on Pdox conservatives were worried he was going to invade the US.
That sounds way too farfetched to be anything other than musings of a couple of retards. When it comes to conservative retards, Paradox paradoxically has a number of good ones.
Quote from: Valmy on May 30, 2012, 03:07:03 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 30, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
Are they really that fixated on him? They'll mention him scornfully once in a while, but it's not like he doesn't deserve it.
Wow Raz has made DG defend the Republicans.
Nah, I'm just building up the dossier of moderate things I said, to present to Berkut for the next debate.
Quote from: Valmy on May 30, 2012, 03:07:03 PM
Wow Raz has made DG defend the Republicans.
Guller was stung by Berkut's accusation of radical fringedom.
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 03:10:23 PM
Getting the feeling Raz is coming out of the closet as a Chavez fanboy. Who'd a'thunk it?
I don't think about much one way or the other. Why should I?
Quote from: DGuller on May 30, 2012, 03:11:56 PM
That sounds way too farfetched to be anything other than musings of a couple of retards. When it comes to conservative retards, Paradox paradoxically has a number of good ones.
I figured it was part of those UN conspiracy theories.
Quote from: Barrister on May 30, 2012, 02:59:56 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 30, 2012, 02:07:57 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
Looks like Republicans will need to find a new bogyman.
Why do Republicans need a bogeyman at all?
Why don't you tell me. While you are at it, why did Republicans fixate on Chavez?
I think Chavez is far, far more fixated on the US than anyone in the US is fixated on Chavez...
True. The US is still fixated on Cuba.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 03:10:23 PM
Getting the feeling Raz is coming out of the closet as a Chavez fanboy. Who'd a'thunk it?
I don't think about much one way or the other. Why should I?
He's a leftist like yourself. You should love him.
Quote from: Josephus on May 30, 2012, 03:52:34 PM
True. The US is still fixated on Cuba.
Not really. We don't pay nearly the attention to them that they pay to us.
And yes, I read Granma and other Cuban publications from time to time.
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 04:02:33 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 03:10:23 PM
Getting the feeling Raz is coming out of the closet as a Chavez fanboy. Who'd a'thunk it?
I don't think about much one way or the other. Why should I?
He's a leftist like yourself. You should love him.
Ahmadinejad is rightest like yourself, and I don't see you sending him fruit baskets. So is I Putin I think.
Thing is, Latin America is full of leftists. I don't really keep track of them.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 04:30:49 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 04:02:33 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 03:10:23 PM
Getting the feeling Raz is coming out of the closet as a Chavez fanboy. Who'd a'thunk it?
I don't think about much one way or the other. Why should I?
He's a leftist like yourself. You should love him.
Ahmadinejad is rightest like yourself, and I don't see you sending him fruit baskets. So is I Putin I think.
Thing is, Latin America is full of leftists. I don't really keep track of them.
Chavez is also a Catholic. I WIN.
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
Quote from: Josephus on May 30, 2012, 03:52:34 PM
True. The US is still fixated on Cuba.
Not really. We don't pay nearly the attention to them that they pay to us.
Type "Cuba" into Google News search and see how many articles on Cuba were in American media in say, the last six hours.
Headline got my hopes up. :(
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
Chavez is also a Catholic. I WIN.
He is? I thought he was some kind of communist.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 04:47:52 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
Chavez is also a Catholic. I WIN.
He is? I thought he was some kind of communist.
St. Oscar Romero - SANTO SUBITO!
I never entirely got the hate for Chavez. I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as many have made out. He's always been more Putin than Ahmedinejad or Khamenei.
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 30, 2012, 04:57:48 PM
I never entirely got the hate for Chavez. I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as many have made out. He's always been more Putin than Ahmedinejad or Khamenei.
I was unaware that hate for Chavez existed. I see him as a level 23 anti-American buffoon, useful for comedic relief and to help discredit all anti-Americans and all left-populists by association, and as a level 3 security threat because of his support for Colombian "revolutionaries."
Josephus: how do you trim a Google search to US media only in the last six hours? First page of a plain vanilla search gives me one media story by the BBC.
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 30, 2012, 04:57:48 PM
I never entirely got the hate for Chavez. I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as many have made out. He's always been more Putin than Ahmedinejad or Khamenei.
Is being more like Putin supposed to be a positive thing? :unsure:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 30, 2012, 05:05:03 PM
I was unaware that hate for Chavez existed. I see him as a level 23 anti-American buffoon, useful for comedic relief and to help discredit all anti-Americans and all left-populists by association, and as a level 3 security threat because of his support for Colombian "revolutionaries."
I remember it peaking around about 2005 when he was being called a great dictator or tyrant.
I don't think his buffoonery discredits anyone but himself.
Quote from: DGuller on May 30, 2012, 05:09:56 PM
Is being more like Putin supposed to be a positive thing? :unsure:
In that comparison, yes.
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
And yes, I read Granma and other Cuban publications from time to time.
Is it any good?
I'm no longer going to revel in the death of people.
Jesus be with you.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 03:05:22 PM
True, but irrelevant. A lot of countries fixate on the US. The US is the most powerful country in the world. You noticed the guys above you. You don't care nearly as much as about people below you. Does anyone here know who the head of state is for Costa Rica off the top of their heads? What about Chad?
That is a terrible comparison. Venezuela is a member of OPEC located not far from the US, is a medium sized country that was until recently one of the wealthiest parts of South America. I can tell you at a high level what is going on in the major Latin American countries (Mexico, Venezuela, Colombia, Argentina, Brazil) but I don't keep up as much with small countries like Costa Rica, Paraguay, or Gautemala.
Also, Chavez has effectively destroyed his country's economy and made life very difficult for multinationals there. He has also tried to create an anti American coalition and shown a willingness to fund countries that take that line. Yeah he is a buffoon and has failed, but sometimes people follow buffoons, and he has had some successes.
Hmm, I wonder how many of the Massachusetts Congressmembers will be going to the funeral for Chavez to mourn the great socialist liberator! I bet one who might go is Jim McGovern. ;)
Quote from: DGuller on May 30, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Why don't you tell me. While you are at it, why did Republicans fixate on Chavez?
Are they really that fixated on him? They'll mention him scornfully once in a while, but it's not like he doesn't deserve it.
When Dorsey is calling you on your partisan bullshit, it's time to take a minute and think about what you're saying.
Rest in peaces, Chavez.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit.
Quote from: Neil on May 30, 2012, 08:35:59 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 30, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
Why don't you tell me. While you are at it, why did Republicans fixate on Chavez?
Are they really that fixated on him? They'll mention him scornfully once in a while, but it's not like he doesn't deserve it.
When Dorsey is calling you on your partisan bullshit, it's time to take a minute and think about what you're saying.
Whatever you say, Berkut.
Quote from: Caliga on May 30, 2012, 06:28:06 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
And yes, I read Granma and other Cuban publications from time to time.
Is it any good?
Very interesting to see the world through their eyes. Journalistic quality isn't all that high, but with what their politicized editorial process must be, it's to be expected.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 04:47:52 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
Chavez is also a Catholic. I WIN.
He is? I thought he was some kind of communist.
He's a "Bolivarian Socialist" or something like that. Basically a Marxist with some of his own flavor added. He had a spat with the church up until somewhat recently, but has often praised Jesus Christ as the "first true socialist". And there's this:
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/04/06/cancer-stricken-hugo-chavez-prays-aloud-dont-take-me-yet/
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 30, 2012, 04:57:48 PM
I never entirely got the hate for Chavez. I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as many have made out. He's always been more Putin than Ahmedinejad or Khamenei.
I just thought he was another South American populist dictator. The only reason he was hated was because of his nonsense in Columbia...well ok actually it was because Martim had a boner about him for a while and was really annoying about it.
I dislike him simply for destroying Venezuela. But lots of South American leaders have destroyed their countries.
Quote from: Valmy on May 30, 2012, 10:12:16 PM
I dislike him simply for destroying Venezuela. But lots of South American leaders have destroyed their countries.
I'm more disappointed in the Venezuelans for letting it happen. They were always allegedly some of the smarter ones down there after Jimenez.
Keep dreaming, Capitalist Ianqi Pigdogs. :cool:
In related news, American media has been saying that Fidel Castro has months to live for many years now:
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-2174723.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-2174723.html)
Shouldn't you all be out buying Facebook stock while telling everybody how wonderful JPMorgan's investment strategy is?
Quote from: Martim Silva on May 31, 2012, 07:57:19 AM
Keep dreaming, Capitalist Ianqi Pigdogs. :cool:
In related news, American media has been saying that Fidel Castro has months to live for many years now:
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-2174723.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-2174723.html)
Shouldn't you all be out buying Facebook stock while telling everybody how wonderful JPMorgan's investment strategy is?
I did that this morning.
Quote from: Martim Silva on May 31, 2012, 07:57:19 AM
Keep dreaming, Capitalist Ianqi Pigdogs. :cool:
In related news, American media has been saying that Fidel Castro has months to live for many years now:
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-2174723.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-2174723.html)
Shouldn't you all be out buying Facebook stock while telling everybody how wonderful JPMorgan's investment strategy is?
The connection between those thoughts eludes me.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 31, 2012, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: Martim Silva on May 31, 2012, 07:57:19 AM
Keep dreaming, Capitalist Ianqi Pigdogs. :cool:
In related news, American media has been saying that Fidel Castro has months to live for many years now:
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-2174723.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-2174723.html)
Shouldn't you all be out buying Facebook stock while telling everybody how wonderful JPMorgan's investment strategy is?
The connection between those thoughts eludes me.
How original, making a comment that would apply to every single one of Martim's posts. :rolleyes:
Quote from: DGuller on May 31, 2012, 10:46:48 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 31, 2012, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: Martim Silva on May 31, 2012, 07:57:19 AM
Keep dreaming, Capitalist Ianqi Pigdogs. :cool:
In related news, American media has been saying that Fidel Castro has months to live for many years now:
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-2174723.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-2174723.html)
Shouldn't you all be out buying Facebook stock while telling everybody how wonderful JPMorgan's investment strategy is?
The connection between those thoughts eludes me.
How original, making a comment that would apply to every single one of Martim's posts. :rolleyes:
Seemed to me that he was being generous--overly so--in crediting him with actual thoughts.