http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/25/obama-pot-smoking-details_n_1545904.html
QuoteThe meticulous biographer David Maraniss revealed President Barack Obama's early girlfriends in an excerpt of his forthcoming biography, and now the Internet is seizing upon new details of the president smoking marijuana with his buddies at the Punahou School in Hawaii.
Politico's Playbook teased the following excerpt from "Barack Obama: The Story," which will be published in June but is already viewable on Google Books. "When a joint was making the rounds, he often elbowed his way in, out of turn, shouted 'Intercepted!' and took an extra hit," Maraniss writes. But Obama's buddies, who called themselves the "Choom Gang," didn't mind him messing up the rotation. (After all, this was Hawaii.)
That's not all. Maraniss writes that Obama was known for starting a trend called "TA," short for "total absorption."
"When you were with Barry and his pals, if you exhaled precious pakalolo (Hawaiian slang for marijuana, meaning "numbing tobacco") instead of absorbing it fully into your lungs, you were assessed a penalty and your turn was skipped the next time the joint came around.
Maraniss also describes Obama's technique of "roof hits" while hot-boxing cars. "When the pot was gone, they tilted their heads back and sucked in the last bit of smoke from the ceiling," he writes.
The fate of their dealer, Ray, was far more tragic than those of Obama and his largely privileged pals. In a scene that could've been in a Quentin Tarantino movie, a "scorned gay lover" later killed Ray with a ball-peen hammer.
The Huffington Post can't independently verify the claims of Maraniss, who won a Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting in 1993.
Obama has been less than shy about his drug use in the past, writing about the topic in "Dreams from My Father." "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it," he writes in the memoir.
Obama's tone grows darker, and drugs are an escape for the young Obama, who is facing questions about his own identity:
Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. Except the highs hadn't been about that, me trying to prove what a down brother I was. Not by them, anyway. I got high for just the opposite effect, something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind, something that could flatten out the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory. I had discovered that it didn't make any difference whether you smoked reefer in the white classmate's sparkling new van, or in the dorm room of some brother you'd met down at the gym, or on the beach with a couple of Hawaiian kids who had dropped out of school and now spent most of their time looking for an excuse to brawl.
As Obama moved to higher stage, he's also been forthcoming about drug use. On Bill Clinton's personal triangulation that he had tried marijuana but "didn't inhale," Obama said smiling in 2006, "That was the point, wasn't it?"
Later in "Dreams from My Father," one of Obama's friends was arrested for drug possession and his mother, home from Indonesia, confronted him about it in his room, and he walked out.
The fun continued for Obama at Occidental College in Los Angeles, but he became much more serious after transferring to Columbia University after his sophomore year, when he lived, in his words, "like a monk."
He sounds a hell of a lot cooler during his stoner years than Bush probably was back in his cheerleader cokehead days. If I had to wager a guess, I bet Obama was the kind of guy who offered fat blunts to total strangers just because he thought they needed to burn one, while Bush probably had an "incident" where he beat the fuck out of some poor guy who walked in the bathroom while he was snorting the finest Colombian yay off some dude's cock.
Bah, marijuana.
I'm much more fascinated with the internet conspirators more concerned with Obama being on the down low.
I guess he was a little less stiff then. Honestly, Obama has always struck me as a bit of a cold fish. The guy sounds like a teacher.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 26, 2012, 10:31:30 AM
I guess he was a little less stiff then. Honestly, Obama has always struck me as a bit of a cold fish. The guy sounds like a teacher.
He has never struck me that way. Just laid back.
Quote from: 11B4V on May 26, 2012, 10:37:40 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 26, 2012, 10:31:30 AM
I guess he was a little less stiff then. Honestly, Obama has always struck me as a bit of a cold fish. The guy sounds like a teacher.
He has never struck me that way. Just laid back.
I do like watching him ramp up and getting into campaign mode, though. He does speechify pretty well. Dropped fucking "Cow Pie of Distortion" on Mittens yesterday. Too cool.
The debates will be fun.
This is a no brainer.
I would go back to the year 611 and cut Mohamed's head and feed it to some random pigs.
Quote from: Siege on May 26, 2012, 09:58:34 PM
This is a no brainer.
I would go back to the year 611 and cut Mohamed's head and feed it to some random pigs.
Got an Axe to grind...eh?
Quote from: Siege on May 26, 2012, 09:58:34 PM
This is a no brainer.
I would go back to the year 611 and cut Mohamed's head and feed it to some random pigs.
You probably would have converted. The tribal instincts are strong in you and Mohammed is of your flock.
Quote from: Siege on May 26, 2012, 09:58:34 PM
This is a no brainer.
I would go back to the year 611 and cut Mohamed's head and feed it to some random pigs.
Causing a time paradox that erases you and everyone alive from the time space continuum.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2012, 10:10:39 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 26, 2012, 09:58:34 PM
This is a no brainer.
I would go back to the year 611 and cut Mohamed's head and feed it to some random pigs.
Causing a time paradox that erases you and everyone alive from the time space continuum.
There is no such thing as a time paradox.
Quote from: Jaron on May 26, 2012, 10:16:32 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2012, 10:10:39 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 26, 2012, 09:58:34 PM
This is a no brainer.
I would go back to the year 611 and cut Mohamed's head and feed it to some random pigs.
Causing a time paradox that erases you and everyone alive from the time space continuum.
There is no such thing as a time paradox.
Oh, do tell, oh master of quantum and temporal physics.
Think it through. Either time travel is impossible, or paradoxes are. For the sake of fun, we're pretending time travel is possible, so paradoxes must not be.
In your FACE, Ortiz! :yeah:
Further, we can say that actually "altering history" in the classical sense, and therefore instantaneously changing the state of every particle within the event's light cone for every split second in many billions or possibly an infinite number of years, a task requiring ridiculous or perhaps infinite amounts of energy, would violate thermodynamics, and is therefore stupid.
If you went back and killed Mohammed, the Mohammed in your history still existed. So there's not a lot of point, except to conquer savages; which is, I concede, a reward in itself.
P.S. I heard some quote from Kurt Vonnegut about semicolons the other day. Yeah? Well, repeating "So it goes" five trillion times in Slaughterhouse Five doesn't make you smart either, Mr. Writer Man. Also, he once blew off Kevin Murphy, who has brought far more joy to the world than Vonnegut ever even attempted. If I had a time machine, I'd go kick his bomber-and-punctuation-hating ass.
Yet still he does nothing about the stuipidity with which the modern world treats weed.
This makes me think worse of Obama, not because of the drug taking, but because of the hypocrisy in power afterwards. The guy did all sorts of drugs when he was young, and now zealously uses federal power to bring states that have more rational drug laws back in line? Either he's a hypocrite, a moralist who flip-flopped after quitting drugs, or a cynical politician who over-compensates with drug law enforcement to make people not wonder about his admissions of past use. None of those explanations are particularly good.
Oh, all you stoner sympathizers can blow it out your bongs.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2012, 01:11:19 AM
Oh, all you stoner sympathizers can blow it out your bongs.
Hydrated tobacco devices. Bongs would be paraferneelia. :contract:
:P
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2012, 10:24:02 PM
Quote from: Jaron on May 26, 2012, 10:16:32 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2012, 10:10:39 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 26, 2012, 09:58:34 PM
This is a no brainer.
I would go back to the year 611 and cut Mohamed's head and feed it to some random pigs.
Causing a time paradox that erases you and everyone alive from the time space continuum.
There is no such thing as a time paradox.
Oh, do tell, oh master of quantum and temporal physics.
LOVE this :lol:
Quote from: DGuller on May 26, 2012, 11:52:03 PM
This makes me think worse of Obama, not because of the drug taking, but because of the hypocrisy in power afterwards. The guy did all sorts of drugs when he was young, and now zealously uses federal power to bring states that have more rational drug laws back in line? Either he's a hypocrite, a moralist who flip-flopped after quitting drugs, or a cynical politician who over-compensates with drug law enforcement to make people not wonder about his admissions of past use. None of those explanations are particularly good.
ISn't it the Federal Government's job to defend Federal laws? I'm not sure I would want the government to pick and choose which laws to defend based on who is in the White House.
Quote from: sbr on May 27, 2012, 05:12:57 AM
Quote from: DGuller on May 26, 2012, 11:52:03 PM
This makes me think worse of Obama, not because of the drug taking, but because of the hypocrisy in power afterwards. The guy did all sorts of drugs when he was young, and now zealously uses federal power to bring states that have more rational drug laws back in line? Either he's a hypocrite, a moralist who flip-flopped after quitting drugs, or a cynical politician who over-compensates with drug law enforcement to make people not wonder about his admissions of past use. None of those explanations are particularly good.
ISn't it the Federal Government's job to defend Federal laws? I'm not sure I would want the government to pick and choose which laws to defend based on who is in the White House.
But he started off saying he wasn't going to be zealous about pot and then began damping up efforts.
Quote from: sbr on May 27, 2012, 05:12:57 AM
ISn't it the Federal Government's job to defend Federal laws? I'm not sure I would want the government to pick and choose which laws to defend based on who is in the White House.
:lol: That's an adorable position.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2012, 01:11:19 AM
Oh, all you stoner sympathizers can blow it out your bongs.
Been a while since you played the cokehead in chief line.
I don't recall Obama ever saying he was planning to layoff the pot heads.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 27, 2012, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2012, 01:11:19 AM
Oh, all you stoner sympathizers can blow it out your bongs.
Been a while since you played the cokehead in chief line.
At least coke has real benefits (increased productivity) compared to marijuana (munchies).
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2012, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 27, 2012, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2012, 01:11:19 AM
Oh, all you stoner sympathizers can blow it out your bongs.
Been a while since you played the cokehead in chief line.
At least coke has real benefits (increased productivity) compared to marijuana (munchies).
Maybe, but doing coke (snorting a line off of glass) always looked, visually, far more uncultured to me than marijuana (smoking a j).
Now if you throw in some kind of elaborate, hydraulic bong-smoking contraption...then it's all tied up.
I know if I had a time machine, I wouldn't be spending time with two stiffs like Obama and Dubya.
Hello, Valeria Messalina. :menace:
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 27, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
I know if I had a time machine, I wouldn't be spending time with two stiffs like Obama and Dubya.
Hello, Valeria Messalina. :menace:
Hi
Fuck that. Burst for the future, and bring back a sexbot for Timmay, so he finally finds out what's all the outrage about sex.
Quote from: Siege on May 28, 2012, 05:24:47 AM
Fuck that. Burst for the future, and bring back a sexbot for Timmay, so he finally finds out what's all the outrage about sex.
Man, every once in a while, I get reminded why I like Siegey.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 27, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
I know if I had a time machine, I wouldn't be spending time with two stiffs like Obama and Dubya.
Hello, Valeria Messalina. :menace:
She's so hot. :wub:
Quote from: Ideologue on May 28, 2012, 02:14:01 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 27, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
I know if I had a time machine, I wouldn't be spending time with two stiffs like Obama and Dubya.
Hello, Valeria Messalina. :menace:
She's so hot. :wub:
I'd let her sit naked in my hot tub.
Who is she?
Age and body weight, plz.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2012, 04:44:29 PMAt least coke has real benefits (increased productivity) compared to marijuana (munchies).
You still think that after your brush with corporate America?
Quote from: Jacob on May 28, 2012, 03:48:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 27, 2012, 04:44:29 PMAt least coke has real benefits (increased productivity) compared to marijuana (munchies).
You still think that after your brush with corporate America?
No, I think that after my brush as a a bail bondsman. :ph34r:
Quote from: Siege on May 28, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
Who is she?
Age and body weight, plz.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Valeria+Messalina
We know. Too old, too fat.
I thought Brunet's Messalina was pretty good:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fd0%2FMessalina_by_Eug%25C3%25A8ne_Cyrille_Brunet.JPG%2F800px-Messalina_by_Eug%25C3%25A8ne_Cyrille_Brunet.JPG&hash=2ce7fc37cd3e055cd4aaefa94349d7cffd2b1d6d)
Of course, it is an artist's rendition.
Too heavy.
Why are there no pictures of that sculpture/statue that shows the whole thing in a perspective you can get an idea of the thing?
sbr, Google image search Cyrille Brunet and and you'll find a few.
Quote from: Jacob on May 28, 2012, 06:39:19 PM
sbr, Google image search Cyrille Brunet and and you'll find a few.
Ah, much better. Thanks.
I Googled Brunet's Messalina and got a few clipped shots of the sculpture and lots and lots of porn.
Boobs!
Quote from: sbr on May 28, 2012, 06:26:55 PM
Why are there no pictures of that sculpture/statue that shows the whole thing in a perspective you can get an idea of the thing?
Sometimes I am amazed that English is my first (and only) language.
Quote from: sbr on May 28, 2012, 06:47:29 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 28, 2012, 06:26:55 PM
Why are there no pictures of that sculpture/statue that shows the whole thing in a perspective you can get an idea of the thing?
Sometimes I am amazed that English is my first (and only) language.
It's better than most of the freshmen in my History class.
Quote from: PDH on May 28, 2012, 06:52:05 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 28, 2012, 06:47:29 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 28, 2012, 06:26:55 PM
Why are there no pictures of that sculpture/statue that shows the whole thing in a perspective you can get an idea of the thing?
Sometimes I am amazed that English is my first (and only) language.
It's better than most of the freshmen in my History class.
I have set the bar a touch higher than that in my 41 years. :Embarrass:
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 28, 2012, 06:55:55 PM
Quote from: PDH on May 28, 2012, 06:45:41 PM
Boobs!
Needs more concrete snapper.
Needs more penetration. You don't see a lot of hardcore statuary.
In any event, the chick who played Messalina in I, Claudius was really pretty. :wub: