QuoteLocal lottery winner wants to create his fantasy 'World' in perfect online game
Million-dollar Kickstarter campaign draws criticism of audacious project
Westminster businessman Ellwood "Bunky" Bartlett is like a lot of gamers — he knows what he likes and doesn't like in his games. The difference between Bartlett and most gamers is that in 2007, he won the Mega Millions jackpot, clearing roughly $27 million after taxes.
After years of marauding through massive online multi-player games like "World of Warcraft," "Rift" and "EverQuest," Bartlett is embarking on his own quest: to create his dream game. Now all he needs is a mere $1.1 million to get started.
Bartlett launched a crowd-funding page on Kickstarter Tuesday to gauge interest and begin raising funds for a beta version of the project he calls "Your World." Under Kickstarter's rules, Bartlett will have 50 days (May 3rd) to meet his $1.1 million goal in order for the project to be funded. Bartlett is looking to launch the development of his MMORPG (massively multi-player online role-playing game) through a successful Kickstarter campaign, which gives donors at various commitment levels incentives once the project is funded.
The crowd-funding platform has been a hotbed of video game projects, with game developers Double Fine raising more than $3 million to create a new adventure game, and the developers of "Wasteland 2" on pace to smash their $900,000 goal before their April 17 deadline. Bartlett is optimistic about his own project's success with crowd funding.
"The amount on Kickstarter isn't going to instantly make the game happen. It's enough to hire the people we need to make the beta," Bartlett says. "That's the great thing about Kickstarter, is that it's a way to find out if other people would actually play this game if we created it. So, I did it more just to see what kind of response, and so far it's been huge."
Bartlett arrived at the $1.1 million figure by budgeting for costs such as hiring a game designer, programmers, artists and other necessary personnel needed to complete the beta version of his game, which he hopes will be ready in 2014.
His vision of the "Your World" project is to take what he loves about his favorite MMORPGs and combine them with a very user-focused platform similar to "Second Life." His vision includes levels of user customization so far unrealized by games like "World of Warcraft," which Bartlett, a former accountant, now spends nearly 40 hours per week playing since his Mega Millions windfall.
"These are the things I've always wanted in a game," he says. "As the users in the world grow, we will build the world around them. We'll create new things to come in and challenge them, and make it really fun."
Bartlett's ideas for "Your World" began forming in 2004 when "World of Warcraft" was released. Bartlett, 45 and a lifelong gamer, found significant time to devote to his passion even before his multimillion dollar payday.
"Ever since I started playing 'World of Warcraft,' I thought, 'This has some great things, but someone can do something better,'" he said. "Then newer games like 'Star Wars: The Old Republic' would come out, and that would do some things better, but I'd think 'it's still not what I want.'"
Bartlett has outlined exactly what he wants on "Your World's" Kickstarter page, taking questions from investors, and detailing the game's economy, avatar customization, guild rules and scenery, which will combine elements of fantasy, space and whatever else the users dream up.
After Bartlett launched his Kickstarter campaign, video game uber-blog Kotaku ran a piece that asked, "if Bartlett is a millionaire, why does he need Kickstarter?" As the story has made the news rounds, Bartlett has received his share of vitriol from gamers.
"The same thing happened when I won the lottery. Crazy people focus on things like that, and will make negative comments, focused on the way I look," Bartlett explains. "They're usually young kids. You can tell by their comments, that they're either not educated, or not over the age of 25."
Much of the negativity is focused on Bartlett's lack of experience as a game developer, given the scope of the project he talks about. As he writes on his Kickstarter page, "I am an idea man, and what that means is I think of things and then hire people to make it a reality once I know it is something the people want. Can I build the game? No. Can I hire a great group of people who can build the game? Oh yes!" Bartlett says he's been contacted by a number of developers who have expressed interest in creating the beta version if the project is funded.
Bartlett acknowledges that the criticism is largely because of his notoriety as a Mega Millions winner. So why doesn't he just bankroll his pet project himself?
"No smart businessman invests 100 percent of the money for the project himself," he said. "It's important to show that you have something that other people have interest in, and that they're willing to support the project financially." Even if the project doesn't meet its Kickstarter goal, Bartlett plans to use whatever support it gets as a catalyst to attract other investors.
In fact, Bartlett knows he's going to need more financial support even if the Kickstarter succeeds. Big MMORPGs — think "World of Warcraft"-size — cost in the hundreds of millions of dollars to develop and maintain. While his goal is to use Kickstarter to fund a beta and generate interest from larger investors, he is adamant about his own commitment to "Your World."
"I'll absolutely be investing in the project. No doubt," he states. "I have to have a stake in it.
"I really enjoy the social aspect of online gaming — meeting, talking, playing against other people. It's more of a challenge," he said of his love of MMOs. Now, Bartlett will have to tap into the social nature of online game funding, and convince as many players as he can to join his gaming utopia. With 48 days of funding left, Bartlett has raised just over $300.
"What would you do if you won the lottery?" is often just a fun hypothetical question during a long car ride. If you love online gaming like Bartlett, and you actually do win the lottery, giving you time, money and freedom, the answer becomes simple: you create "Your World."
Wasn't there a Languish poster who said that if he wins a lottery he would do something like that?
Yes, and I think it was Ryoken.
Yep.
".....after taxes" :hmm: ?
How large are these taxes on lottery wins?
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 16, 2012, 05:43:27 AM
".....after taxes" :hmm: ?
How large are these taxes on lottery wins?
Close to 40%.
Thanks........a hefty slice then, must be the puritanical streak :D
I like it when dumb people waste money. Schadenfreude :cool:
I won a slow cooker in a hospital lottery this week. :D
Mega Millions is at 500 million now.
I win, FUCK YOU PEOPLE.
The lotto is for poor people. :)
Except after they win, I guess. :hmm:
I sooooo want to give Seedy reason #5,111 to hate lottery winners ;)
Quote from: Caliga on March 28, 2012, 07:59:12 PM
The lotto is for poor people. :)
Except after they win, I guess. :hmm:
I laugh when I buy a dollar scratch off on a whim and I get 500 bucks. MORE SHIT FOR ME.
Quote from: Caliga on March 16, 2012, 06:42:28 AM
I like it when dumb people waste money. Schadenfreude :cool:
We've all been amused by your tree planting endeavors.
If I had $27 million after taxes, you can guarantee that I'd waste at least $1.1 mil of it on something as dumb as this. As would just about everyone else here, I imagine.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 28, 2012, 08:15:08 PM
If I had $27 million after taxes, you can guarantee that I'd waste at least $1.1 mil of it on something as dumb as this. As would just about everyone else here, I imagine.
No, I would not invest in a video game. Orgy theme park, maybe.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 28, 2012, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 28, 2012, 08:15:08 PM
If I had $27 million after taxes, you can guarantee that I'd waste at least $1.1 mil of it on something as dumb as this. As would just about everyone else here, I imagine.
No, I would not invest in a video game. Orgy theme park, maybe.
Agreed.
Quote from: Caliga on March 28, 2012, 07:59:12 PM
The lotto is for poor people. :)
Except after they win, I guess. :hmm:
Until they become poor again.
I hear ancedotes about how that usually happens, but I wonder if anyone's ever compiled stats about it.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 28, 2012, 08:15:08 PM
If I had $27 million after taxes, you can guarantee that I'd waste at least $1.1 mil of it on something as dumb as this. As would just about everyone else here, I imagine.
$1 million: computer game--WitP level of detail, plus diplomatic and grand strategic options, full war.
$2 million: Sexbot trust fund.
$500,000: Thai vacation.
$1 million: sports car.
$500,000: condo in Seattle.
$1 million: law firm?
$2 million: condo in Burj Khalifa.
$1 million: license from Dubai government to drop pennies on migrant workers.
$1 million: donations to no kill shelters nationwide.
$1 million: outfitting Occupy protesters with gas masks.
$1 million: MST3K festival at local theatre.
$-120,000: Shit Is Fucked Up and Bullshit Foundation. A 501(c) that I manage and which pays me a salary of $120,000 a year for ten years, clears many if not most of the purchases above as expenses, and supports whatever I'm into that day. LOL EAT THAT TAXPAYERS.
Any more ideas? I've got more than half of it left. Comic book store?
QuoteAny more ideas? I've got $16 million left.
$5 -get Lindsay Lohan to suck a giant dildo
Put a hundred thousand into flying all Languish virgins to Holland or Brazil. Make sure you track down that wacky but nice Finnish kid that bailed a couple years back. Not Mouth Sugar, the other one.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 28, 2012, 08:48:28 PM
QuoteAny more ideas? I've got $16 million left.
$5 -get Lindsay Lohan to suck a giant dildo
Budgeted under Thai vacation. I'm working on the spreadsheet presently.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 28, 2012, 08:50:56 PM
Put a hundred thousand into flying all Languish virgins to Holland or Brazil. Make sure you track down that wacky but nice Finnish kid that bailed a couple years back. Not Mouth Sugar, the other one.
OK, $1 million for trip to Thailand.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 28, 2012, 08:15:08 PM
If I had $27 million after taxes, you can guarantee that I'd waste at least $1.1 mil of it on something as dumb as this. As would just about everyone else here, I imagine.
$1 million: computer game--WitP level of detail, plus diplomatic and grand strategic options, full war.
$2 million: Sexbot trust fund.
$500,000: Thai vacation.
$1 million: sports car.
$500,000: condo in Seattle.
$1 million: law firm?
$2 million: condo in Burj Khalifa.
$1 million: license from Dubai government to drop pennies on migrant workers.
$1 million: donations to no kill shelters nationwide.
$1 million: outfitting Occupy protesters with gas masks.
$1 million: MST3K festival at local theatre.
$-120,000: Shit Is Fucked Up and Bullshit Foundation. A 501(c) that I manage and which pays me a salary of $120,000 a year for ten years, clears many if not most of the purchases above as expenses, and supports whatever I'm into that day. LOL EAT THAT TAXPAYERS.
Any more ideas? I've got more than half of it left. Comic book store?
This is what I'm talking about Cal.
A lavish trip to Thailand costs several thousand US$ at most.
$ 10- Purchase the Kardashian's dignity.
12 cold steel swords @~600 ea.- Have a Anime fan gladiator fight. 12 nerds enter, none leave.
Quote from: Monoriu on March 28, 2012, 08:55:10 PM
A lavish trip to Thailand costs several thousand US$ at most.
I was about to point that out, too. I wonder if Ide has maybe never gone on a real vacation before. :hmm:
btw Ide my boss was in Columbia on business today and yesterday. I told him to grab lunch at Maurice's Racist Barbecue but he: had other plans. :mad:
Quote from: garbon on March 28, 2012, 08:53:41 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 28, 2012, 08:15:08 PM
If I had $27 million after taxes, you can guarantee that I'd waste at least $1.1 mil of it on something as dumb as this. As would just about everyone else here, I imagine.
$1 million: computer game--WitP level of detail, plus diplomatic and grand strategic options, full war.
$2 million: Sexbot trust fund.
$500,000: Thai vacation.
$1 million: sports car.
$500,000: condo in Seattle.
$1 million: law firm?
$2 million: condo in Burj Khalifa.
$1 million: license from Dubai government to drop pennies on migrant workers.
$1 million: donations to no kill shelters nationwide.
$1 million: outfitting Occupy protesters with gas masks.
$1 million: MST3K festival at local theatre.
$-120,000: Shit Is Fucked Up and Bullshit Foundation. A 501(c) that I manage and which pays me a salary of $120,000 a year for ten years, clears many if not most of the purchases above as expenses, and supports whatever I'm into that day. LOL EAT THAT TAXPAYERS.
Any more ideas? I've got more than half of it left. Comic book store?
This is what I'm talking about Cal.
I think you missed the part where most of my purchases are appreciating investments or take advantage of programs to actually put me ahead. :P
Either that or you hate animals. :(
Quote from: CalI was about to point that out, too. I wonder if Ide has maybe never gone on a real vacation before. :hmm:
:(
I went to Mardi Gras. That cost like $2000.
Anyway, I'm budgeting bribe money to get me out of Thai prison.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 08:46:36 PM$1 million: computer game--WitP level of detail, plus diplomatic and grand strategic options, full war.
This one might actually make a small profit. Gotta be 20,000 schmucks out there willing to pay $50 for it. Or 50,000 willing to pay $20.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 28, 2012, 09:00:41 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 08:46:36 PM$1 million: computer game--WitP level of detail, plus diplomatic and grand strategic options, full war.
This one might actually make a small profit. Gotta be 20,000 schmucks out there willing to pay $50 for it. Or 50,000 willing to pay $20.
Matrix game version- $500
On the other hand, $2 million is probably no where near enough for a condo in the Burj Kalifa.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 28, 2012, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 28, 2012, 09:00:41 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 08:46:36 PM$1 million: computer game--WitP level of detail, plus diplomatic and grand strategic options, full war.
This one might actually make a small profit. Gotta be 20,000 schmucks out there willing to pay $50 for it. Or 50,000 willing to pay $20.
Matrix game version- $500
Wait for the sale - $495.
I hope it's a raging success. The MMO market badly needs a kick in the ass.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 09:00:28 PM
I think you missed the part where most of my purchases are appreciating investments or take advantage of programs to actually put me ahead. :P
Either that or you hate animals. :(
I see a depreciating vehicle and property with expensive taxes. 120k a year for 10 years is chump change. Nice try though.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 28, 2012, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 28, 2012, 09:00:41 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 08:46:36 PM$1 million: computer game--WitP level of detail, plus diplomatic and grand strategic options, full war.
This one might actually make a small profit. Gotta be 20,000 schmucks out there willing to pay $50 for it. Or 50,000 willing to pay $20.
Matrix game version- $500
Then when I try to purchase it, they'll charge me twice. <_<
Quote from: garbon on March 28, 2012, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 09:00:28 PM
I think you missed the part where most of my purchases are appreciating investments or take advantage of programs to actually put me ahead. :P
Either that or you hate animals. :(
I see a depreciating vehicle and property with expensive taxes. 120k a year for 10 years is chump change. Nice try though.
The 120k is a paper transaction, from the trust to me.
Property taxes are a cost of business if you own substantial real estate holdings.
I'm also not sure million dollar cars depreciate in the same fashion as the proverbial Honda Accord. Maybe the way I'd be likely to drive one.
Oh, here's one I forgot: $1 million, check to U.S. Treasury. :) (Contingent on Democratic Congress.)
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 28, 2012, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 28, 2012, 09:00:41 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 08:46:36 PM$1 million: computer game--WitP level of detail, plus diplomatic and grand strategic options, full war.
This one might actually make a small profit. Gotta be 20,000 schmucks out there willing to pay $50 for it. Or 50,000 willing to pay $20.
Matrix game version- $500
Paradox version: $50.
Working Paradox version: $100.
Fun Paradox version: priceless.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 10:58:14 PM
Property taxes are a cost of business if you own substantial real estate holdings.
Yes and you have to have the money to pay them. :contract:
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 08:46:36 PM
$2 million: condo in Burj Khalifa.
$1 million: license from Dubai government to drop pennies on migrant workers.
WTF? :yeahright:
I'd buy Mono a one way ticket to America
Raz a new basement
CdM the seed money to relocate to Wyoming to start his teaching career at UWyo
ticket for Lettow to go to Japan and never ever post on Languish again.
Just first few things off top of my head.
Would the interest on $10 million or so insufficient to pay property taxes on $3 million worth of holdings and buy Reese's cups and such? I dunno.
I could also work some kind of actual job.
Quote from: katmai on March 28, 2012, 11:09:13 PM
I'd buy Mono a one way ticket to America
Oh, like that would get used. You might as well buy Grallon a call girl or get me a football.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 28, 2012, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 28, 2012, 11:09:13 PM
I'd buy Mono a one way ticket to America
Oh, like that would get used. You might as well buy Grallon a call girl or get me a football.
What if i bought Grallon you?
:lol:
He'd return me as expired product.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 28, 2012, 08:15:08 PM
If I had $27 million after taxes, you can guarantee that I'd waste at least $1.1 mil of it on something as dumb as this. As would just about everyone else here, I imagine.
There is nothing I'd really want to waste my money on. I think I might hire one of the financial guys to look after the money and make sure it's prudently invested. Perhaps I'd move to St. Louis to be closer to my family. I'm sure I could find a nice basement there. I wonder if having 27 million dollars would help my dating prospect. :hmm: Maybe I'd buy a car and perhaps a new PC. I suppose I should hire a real psychology and psychiatrist. That would probably be helpful. The current psychologist tells me to wrap rubber bands around my arms and new Psychiatrist thinks that running and hiding is the best solution to all my problems. I get the feeling this isn't top notch medical expertise I'm getting. Beyond that, I don't know. I've never been burdened by large amounts of money before.
Quote from: RazI wonder if having 27 million dollars would help my dating prospect. :hmm:
Thailand budget increased to $1.5 million.
$27 million isn't enough to build a proper MMO. Nowhere near.
Now if he wants to do a micro-transaction free-to-play type game with MMO sensibilities the $1.1 million he's putting down might do the trick... but it does take more to make a successful game than playing them and knowing what you like.
Quote from: Jacob on March 28, 2012, 11:51:03 PM
$27 million isn't enough to build a proper MMO. Nowhere near.
Now if he wants to do a micro-transaction free-to-play type game with MMO sensibilities the $1.1 million he's putting down might do the trick... but it does take more to make a successful game than playing them and knowing what you like.
That reminds me, I was curious what your opinion was about that Wasteland 2 Kick starter thing? <_< They have scrounged up an impressive amount of cash. Over a mil and half.
I've done something I've never done before voluntarily. I'm playing the lottery. :ph34r: :x :ph34r: All of my home game poker group chipped in $5 into the pool, and I had to do it as well. The thought of all of them winning half a bil, and me being left out, is too horrible to contemplate.
It would mean they'd have more money for you to win off them. :shifty:
Quote from: katmai on March 28, 2012, 11:09:13 PM
CdM the seed money to relocate to Wyoming to start his teaching career at UWyo
Throw in two horses, a trailer and let me jack my Jeep up 6", and you got a deal.
Quote from: katmai on March 28, 2012, 11:09:13 PM
I'd buy Mono a one way ticket to America
Raz a new basement
CdM the seed money to relocate to Wyoming to start his teaching career at UWyo
ticket for Lettow to go to Japan and never ever post on Languish again.
Just first few things off top of my head.
I prefer the new basement please.
Would you drive 224 miles (@18 mpg vehicle), 4 hours, to buy a 1 in 175 million chance of winning a $500 mil jackpot? :unsure:
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 29, 2012, 08:43:55 AM
Would you drive 224 miles (@18 mpg vehicle), 4 hours, to buy a 1 in 175 million chance of winning a $500 mil jackpot? :unsure:
Shit, I've been drop $20 daily for the last two drawings, what's a little drive? :lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 29, 2012, 08:50:28 AM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 29, 2012, 08:43:55 AM
Would you drive 224 miles (@18 mpg vehicle), 4 hours, to buy a 1 in 175 million chance of winning a $500 mil jackpot? :unsure:
Shit, I've been drop $20 daily for the last two drawings, what's a little drive? :lol:
1 in 175,000,000 chance of it been a good investment, otherwise a waste of time and gas money. I may have to do this, hell, I may take time off from work so I can still be home for my Thursday night MW3 gaming night. :)
You want lies with that? :)
QuoteLawyer hasn't seen claimed winning lottery ticket
By SARAH BRUMFIELD
The Associated Press
Posted: 5:56 p.m. Wednesday, April 4, 2012
BALTIMORE — A woman who has claimed to have Maryland's winning Mega Millions ticket appeared with an attorney Wednesday asking to be left alone, though the news conference raised more questions than it answered.
Attorney Edward Smith Jr. said he didn't know if his client, Mirlande Wilson, has the winning ticket worth $218 million before taxes. Maryland Lottery officials say no one has claimed the record jackpot, but they plan their own news conference Thursday.
Smith said at some point they would make a claim for the prize and he was preparing for possible challenges to it. Wilson's co-workers at a McDonald's restaurant claim she was part of a group pool and she is trying to take all the winnings.
In the meantime, Smith asked that the media "go home" and allow Wilson and her family some privacy. Smith said that the attention of media hanging around Wilson's rowhouse in south Baltimore caused her blood pressure to spike and has kept her seven children from playing outside.
"She wanted to remain anonymous. She still wants to go back to her life and be anonymous," Smith said. "Let's be human about this. It's just money, people."
Media peppered Smith with questions, but he said he could answer few of them. When asked about a New York Post report that Wilson hid her ticket inside the McDonald's, the attorney repeated that he does not know where it is.
Since the drawing, Wilson has given varying accounts to media, saying alternately that she had won and that she wasn't sure. At the news conference, Wilson said little, only confirming that she is originally from a village in Haiti.
Smith said Wilson had been thrust into the spotlight by a story about her co-workers' accusations.
"Obviously, there's going to be a challenge. That's how all this started," Smith said. "I'm assuming somebody dropped a dime on her. But for that, none of this would be happening."
I like how they call a news conference and then yell at the reporters who showed up to leave them alone. :lol:
As Obama would say, "This could be my daughter." :sleep:
That story is a monumental clusterfuck. Why would anyone ever go in on a group purchase of lottery tickets?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2012, 09:31:31 PM
That story is a monumental clusterfuck. Why would anyone ever go in on a group purchase of lottery tickets?
I dunno. :ph34r:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2012, 09:31:31 PM
That story is a monumental clusterfuck. Why would anyone ever go in on a group purchase of lottery tickets?
Most obvious reason: insurance. Imagine if all the other motherfuckers at your work won and quit.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2012, 09:31:31 PM
That story is a monumental clusterfuck. Why would anyone ever go in on a group purchase of lottery tickets?
Cause everyone in the office is was doing it, and you'd feel really stupid if everyone there became a millionaire except you.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2012, 09:31:31 PM
That story is a monumental clusterfuck. Why would anyone ever go in on a group purchase of lottery tickets?
Fun?
:yes: Even I had to break my pledge to never play lottery, just for that reason.
Quote from: Caliga on April 04, 2012, 09:26:37 PM
I like how they call a news conference and then yell at the reporters who showed up to leave them alone. :lol:
As Obama would say, "This could be my daughter." :sleep:
Yeah, I saw this one, too.
Ah, only in Mobtown who a lottery winner show up with an attorney, saying she doesn't have the ticket, but it's hidden in a McDonald's.
And you know damned well that McDonald's has since been torn the fuck apart.
Whuh...? Oh no she di'int.
The next thing that'll come out is that she's an illegal immigrant. :sleep:
Quote from: Caliga on April 05, 2012, 05:11:57 AM
The next thing that'll come out is that she's an illegal immigrant. :sleep:
She's Haitian. Gee, what are the odds?
And in a related development, the franchise owner of the McDonald's said she had a prepared statement, but refused to give it to Sun reporters.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 05, 2012, 05:14:30 AM
She's Haitian. Gee, what are the odds?
I know... it was low-hanging fruit :blush:
:lol: in so many ways.
QuoteUpdate: Mirlande Wilson told WRC-TV in Washington Thursday that she has lost her ticket.
If you've been following the bizarre story about the Baltimore woman who claims she may have won a piece of the Mega Millions record-breaking $656 million jackpot, you may have noticed the peculiar hat Mirlande Wilson wore to her news conference this week -- the one with "Sweet Swine Pork Rinds" stitched across the front.
After Wilson's picture was broadcast by The Baltimore Sun and news organizations across the country, a reader from Chicago wrote in to suggest that Wilson and her cap were part of a political stunt designed to smear Mitt Romney, the GOP frontrunner for president. See, when you Google "Sweet Swine Pork Rinds" your first hit is for an anti-Romney site.
We did some Internet research and found the domain www.SweetSwinePorkRinds.com is owned by Scott Crider, an Alabama man who says he is indeed a Romney opponent. But he says he didn't register that site until after he saw Wilson and her hat on Fox News. Last night, he started selling his own version of the cap, though.
Crider, an online marketing and social media consultant, said he recognized the potential for an Internet spark immediately when Shepard Smith mentioned Wilson's curious hat.
He jumped online, searched domain names and for $9.99 he claimed ownership of SweetSwinePorkRinds.com. He used the site to link to his anti-Romney blog, where he promotes animal rights.
In less than 24 hours, Crider said he banked some 6,500 visits to the Sweet Swine site and clicks to his Dogs Against Romney blog, which he started in 2007 after he read a Boston Globe article about the former Massachusetts governor. The story reported that in 1983 Romney caged his family dog, Seamus, an Irish setter, and strapped the dog's pet carrier atop his station wagon for a long trip.
We reached out to Romney's campaign, but officials had no response.
Meanwhile, Wilson – the 37-year-old Baltimore woman at the center of a media spectacle over the winning ticket she claims to have and says she stashed at a Milford Mill McDonald's for safe keeping – answered her phone and took a few questions. (It was an improvement over a press conference Wednesday at which she sat silently, except to take a brief cell phone call.)
Baltimore Sun: "Where did you get your hat?"
Wilson: "I don't remember." She offered to check the label, shouted for someone nearby to grab it and reported back that the manufacturer is Zephyr, which also goes by the name Z Hat.
The Sun: "How are you feeling?"
MW: "I am a little bit stressed out."
The Sun: "When will you cash in your ticket?
MW: "I am not ready for that."
On that note, Wilson quickly ended the conversation. She said she is not a plant from the anti-Romney camp.
Crider denies working on behalf of Romney's political opponents. He says the Globe article touched a nerve back when Romney ran the first time and he's got a big heart for animals.
His blog, Dogs Against Romney, is written in the voice of a dog, Rusty, and, appropriately enough, the Sweetswineporkrinds.com site, subtitled "Hogs Against Romney" is narrated by "Wilbur" the pig.
Crider, 47, says searches for the slogan on Wilson's hat doubled his daily traffic and a Facebook post about "Sweet Swine" garnered more than 700 "likes," 114 "shares" and 79 comments, potentially reaching thousands more.
Sales for his anti-Mitt shirts and bumper stickers also seems up, but he doesn't immediately have a good analysis on that traffic. He's added a replica "Sweet Swine" hat as well.
Crider said he created the hats at the request of several people. He said he "searched high and low" for any sign of a hat similar to Wilson's and he could not any. It appears that Wilson's hat is out of production.
So far, Crider says, he hasn't sold a single one since he added the hats last night.
"I don't expect to sell many, if any," Crider wrote in an email. "I think most people just think it's funny. They might buy one as a joke - maybe."
The money he raises will go toward animal welfare, Crider said.
"It's safe to say I recouped my $9.99 investment in the URL, though," Crider says.
His original intent? Crider says, "I set up the quick page just to entertain our 44,000 members on our Facebook page and to take advantage of the opportunity to draw a bunch of traffic (which has worked quite well)."
The Sweet Swine site has a ways to go before it tops Crider's success on his Dogs Against Romney blog. He says that site went "fairly viral" in 2007 for about 10 days, drawing about a million readers in two weeks, driven in part by a CNN report on it.
"I have learned over the years that even the smallest mention of something like that on a national broadcast can drive a lot of traffic," Crider said.
I was looking through the games on Kickstarter, and I'm kinda impressed. There's some great stuff there.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 06, 2012, 01:53:23 PM
I was looking through the games on Kickstarter, and I'm kinda impressed. There's some great stuff there.
:yes: I would recommend sticking to the Staff Picks only, though. There is a lot of absolute shit on Kickstarter. Some people seem to throw concepts up there without even trying to sell it.
Quote from: ulmont on April 04, 2012, 09:33:13 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2012, 09:31:31 PM
That story is a monumental clusterfuck. Why would anyone ever go in on a group purchase of lottery tickets?
Most obvious reason: insurance. Imagine if all the other motherfuckers at your work won and quit.
This is the precise reason I contribute my dollar or two each week to our lottery pool. I don't expect to ever win like the rest of them seem to, but I'm damn sure not going to be stuck back here doing everyone's job.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 06, 2012, 01:47:04 PM
and, appropriately enough, the Sweetswineporkrinds.com site, subtitled "Hogs Against Romney" is narrated by "Wilbur" the pig.
He must be some pig indeed. :)
Some years ago I hit the lottery with a group of workers. Fun times! My boss was going nuts at first, thought he'd lose a large part of his staff. :D But hey, we had to split it with a bunch of other winning tickets. It was early in the Massachusetts Lottery and more people were hitting, until the Lottery increased the numbers. Turned out we all got about $2600.00 a year, which hey, I'll take it!
lol, finally.
QuoteThe holder of the winning Mega Millions ticket purchased at a Baltimore County convenience store stepped forward Monday to claim the prize, officials said.
Maryland Lottery spokeswoman Carole Everett did not identify the winner, who will share the largest lottery prize in history.
Everett said the winner will remain anonymous, but lottery officials plan to share a "story line" with the public during a news conference Tuesday morning.
A Westport woman drew international attention last week when she said she had bought one of the three winning tickets sold nationwide in the $656 million drawing on March 30.
Mirlande Wilson, a mother of seven who emigrated from Haiti, could not immediately be reached for comment Monday evening. Her cellphone voice mail was full.
The winning ticket was sold at a 7-Eleven on Liberty Road in Milford Mill about four hours before the drawing.
The New York Post reported last week that Wilson was fighting over the ticket with her co-workers at a nearbyMcDonald'srestaurant.
The co-workers said Wilson bought the ticket as part of a workplace pool and should share the winnings. Wilson acknowledged purchasing tickets for the pool but said she bought the winner with her own money.
As the week went on, she told reporters that she wasn't sure the ticket was a winner, that she had hidden it at the restaurant and that she had lost the ticket.
Everett said last week that she had heard rumors about Wilson and other supposed winners, but "we're not going to chase gossip."
"That one just happened to make the newspaper," she said. "We do not expect this woman to come in."
At a news conference Wednesday, Wilson wouldn't so much as nod to acknowledge that she had the ticket. Her attorney, Edward Smith Jr., said he could not "say with any certainty that this ticket exists."
Smith also said that Wilson "doesn't want 15 minutes of fame. ... She wants, I think, a lifetime of being anonymous."
Lottery officials held a news conference of their own Thursday to stress that no one had claimed the prize and to urge lottery players to recheck their numbers before throwing out their tickets.
Reached after that event, Wilson said she was not "ready" to cash in her ticket and that she was "a little bit stressed."
The holder of a ticket purchased in Kansas came forward last week and will also remain anonymous, officials there said. No one has turned in the winning ticket purchased in Illinois.
Each successful claimant stands to take home more than $100 million after taxes.
I wonder if Al Sharpton will defend her.
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"This woman did not win the lottery due to RACISM!"
You're an idiot, Cal.
Love you too. :hug:
Quote from: Caliga on April 10, 2012, 06:54:17 AM
Love you too. :hug:
Here ya go, Cal: somebody you can hate more than blacks: teachers!
QuoteMaryland Lottery officials announced Tuesday that the record-breaking Mega Millions winning ticket purchased at a 7-Eleven in the Baltimore area was actually purchased by three people, all of whom have chosen to remain anonymous.
The three friends -- a woman in her 20s, a woman in her 50s and a man in his 40s -- work in Maryland's public education system. One of the winners is an elementary school teacher, one works in special education and the third is an administrative assistant, NBC News reported, but they all work other jobs as well.
The three will share the $218.6 million portion of the record-breaking $656 million jackpot from March 30.
Lottery officials say the three winners, who referred to themselves as "The Three Amigos," each contributed $20 to purchase 60 tickets at three different locations.
The night of the drawing, the woman who purchased the tickets laid them all out on her floor, watching the winning numbers come in. After collecting herself from a state of disbelief at realizing she'd won, she called her two friends right away.
According to the Maryland Lottery, the winners chose the cash option of $158 million. After taxes, each will take home just under $35 million each.
"We are thrilled that three such deserving Marylanders have won this money," said Maryland Lottery Director Stephen Martino. "It's gratifying to know that these individuals, who have given so much to the public through the years, have had this wonderful luck. It couldn't have happened to nicer people."
In their immediate future, one plans to backpack through Europe, another plans to finance his daughter's education, and third will travel to Italy. All three plan to invest and buy homes, NBC Washington reported, and they have already sought the counsel of a financial adviser.
All three have been working multiple jobs, a rep for the Maryland lottery said, according to NBC Washington.
The trio plans to return to work this week, citing "a strong commitment to their students," the lottery official said.
The revelation of "The Three Amigos" as the winners followed more than a week of suspense, during which rumors swirled and another Baltimore-area woman had earlier claimed to be the winner, but later said she lost the ticket. Mirlande Wilson, a single mother of seven, said she had been tasked with guarding Mega Millions tickets from a work pool. After the Mega Millions numbers were announced, Wilson said she had the winning ticket but that she wouldn't share the spoils – she said she had purchased the winning ticket separately. She held a news briefing last week, flanked by a lawyer, but then later said she had lost the ticket.
The two other winning tickets in the March 30 drawing were sold in Kansas and Illinois. The Kansas winner chose to remain anonymous; the winner in Illinois has not yet come forward.
What are you talking about? I come from a family of teachers, so I love them. I don't come from a family of blacks, but I love them also. :)
So, if the lottery is a tax on the stupid, what does that say about Maryland public education?
How heartwarming to see a story about three teachers with bills to pay spend $60 on lottery tickets. Yes, those particular people won, but how many people in the same situation didn't?
Quote from: Caliga on April 10, 2012, 10:41:15 AM
What are you talking about? I come from a family of teachers, so I love them. I don't come from a family of blacks, but I love them also. :)
You invoked THE MOST REVEREND Al Sharpton. That was completely unnecessary.
Al is always necessary. If you don't believe me, I would suggest you ask him to confirm. :)
Quote from: Caliga on April 10, 2012, 05:53:43 PM
Al is always necessary. If you don't believe me, I would suggest you ask him to confirm. :)
Don't worry, Reverend Al and I are like
that.
Quote from: DGuller on April 10, 2012, 10:50:50 AM
How heartwarming to see a story about three teachers with bills to pay spend $60 on lottery tickets. Yes, those particular people won, but how many people in the same situation didn't?
A couple million. One idiot NBA player bought $1000 worth of tickets.
I didn't know until this year you could deduct lottery (and gambling) losses up to your winnings. Good thing I'm lazy and don't throw away my scratch offs.
Quote from: stjaba on April 10, 2012, 07:11:24 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 10, 2012, 10:50:50 AM
How heartwarming to see a story about three teachers with bills to pay spend $60 on lottery tickets. Yes, those particular people won, but how many people in the same situation didn't?
A couple million. One idiot NBA player bought $1000 worth of tickets.
add another 0 there.
Heh, Reminds me. A girl I went to Highschool with was charge with stealing 13,000 bucks and spending it on lottery tickets.
Americans! Powerball is up to 305 million. Buy! Consume!
I got my tickets. I win, you won't see my pasty white ass ever again.
Promises, promises.
Since already praying for your wife's loins as they have been overused I'll just add you to the nightly prayer.
Quote from: katmai on August 15, 2012, 08:24:58 PM
Since already praying for your wife's loins as they have been overused I'll just add you to the nightly prayer.
Its still tight. :) YOU ARE THE NEXT BENNY HINN!
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 15, 2012, 08:18:10 PM
I got my tickets. I win, you won't see my pasty white ass ever again.
Who are you kidding, that'd mean even more hours of idleness for you to kill.
I could indulge in religious mania.
Yeah, I think if I won the lottery megachurch is totally the way to go.
1. Huge initial investment
2. Sell lies (which cost very little to manufacture)
3. IMMENSE PROFIT
Once you get past step 1 you should be constantly and decisively in the black. :)
I'm thinking of Justinian style religious mania.
I won a hundred bucks. :)
80 bucks profit. :)
Money spent on kids. :(
Ed sad. :(
Hey. Powerball. 500 million.
Maybe if one of youse pathetic knobs win, I don't have to hear youse whine abouts the tax rate.
Drawing is tomorrow, you sad fucks.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 27, 2012, 05:53:33 PM
Drawing is tomorrow, you sad fucks.
I think I'd feel sad if I spent money on the lotto.
I now understand and appreciate the counterintuitive yet compelling need the unemployed have on blowing their limited UI funds on the lottery. :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 27, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
I now understand and appreciate the counterintuitive yet compelling need the unemployed have on blowing their limited UI funds on the lottery. :P
:hug: :)
I bought 5 tickets. Even though I'll never win. Just in case.
Bought a 5 dollar scratch off, won 25. 10 total profit. :blush:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 27, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
I now understand and appreciate the counterintuitive yet compelling need the unemployed have on blowing their limited UI funds on the lottery. :P
:console:
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 27, 2012, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 27, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
I now understand and appreciate the counterintuitive yet compelling need the unemployed have on blowing their limited UI funds on the lottery. :P
:hug: :)
I bought 5 tickets. Even though I'll never win. Just in case.
I bought $5 tickets from 4 separate locations.
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:lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 27, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
I now understand and appreciate the counterintuitive yet compelling need the unemployed have on blowing their limited UI funds on the lottery. :P
I'll buy mine tomorrow. :blush:
Why does it make me think about South Park, more specifically Cartman buying North Park Funland and renaming it Cartmanland? It's like that episode coming to life. :huh:
Quote
Hey everybody, check out the all new Cartmanland! It's our gra-hand opening! Cartmanland has over a hundred fabulous rides, six rollercoasters, and tons of great surprises! And the best part is... *you* can't come! That's right, because at Cartmanland, only I, Eric Cartman, can get in. That means only I can ride the all new tornado twister, a rollercoaster that splashes in the water. Wow! It's the greatest amusement park in the Colorado area, and nobody can go! Especially Stan and Kyle! Hahaha! So come on down to Cartmanland now, but don't plan on getting past the parking lot, 'cause remember: Eric Cartman: So much to do at Cartmanland, but you can't come!... especially you Stan and Kyle.
I won.... Jackshit. :(
Back to the poorhouse for me.
Quote from: merithyn on November 27, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 27, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
I now understand and appreciate the counterintuitive yet compelling need the unemployed have on blowing their limited UI funds on the lottery. :P
I'll buy mine tomorrow. :blush:
I never bought any. Decided to hold onto my dollars so that I could buy a Diet Pepsi today at work. Probably a better use of my money, despite what my dentist says.
According to a Vegas odds maker I follow on twitter (rj bell) there was a better chance of winning last nights drawing with a single ticket than there was of Larry bird missing 9 straight free throws.
Was there a winner, btw?
A friend said that two people in Kansas City came forward.
Quote from: Caliga on March 28, 2012, 07:59:12 PM
The lotto is for poor people. :)
Except after they win, I guess. :hmm:
The lotto is a voluntary tax on poor people.
I fantasize about winning the lottery, and how I'd spend all that money.
Saves me the trouble of buying a ticket. :D
Powerball back up to 320million.
:)
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2013, 09:16:42 AM
Powerball back up to 320million.
:)
For someone who claims to be loaded, you sure behave like a poor. :(
I'm going to put you on my Internet Liars Watch List. :)
I'm not loaded. I'm "well off".
I'd love to have a Lamborghini. :)
Quote from: Caliga on March 22, 2013, 09:30:04 AM
For someone who claims to be loaded, you sure behave like a poor. :(
I'm going to put you on my Internet Liars Watch List. :)
You can take the boy out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy. :sleep:
That hurts Meri. :cry:
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2013, 09:38:32 AM
That hurts Meri. :cry:
:hug:
I'm only a step away myself, darlin'. I remember fondly the days the cheese and milk trucks came into the neighborhood. Gubmint cheese is still a fav. :wub:
You guys got your blocks of gubmint cheese delivered to your homes? Talk about coddling. :mad:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 22, 2013, 10:08:05 AM
You guys got your blocks of gubmint cheese delivered to your homes? Talk about coddling. :mad:
Nope. Delivered to the neighborhood parks. We just picked it up there. :)
Des Moines was progressive. :yes:
I know one thing....having been in the shitter once, I will move heaven and earth not to go there again.
Even if it means spending 10 bucks on the longest of long shots.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 27, 2012, 08:15:04 PM
I bought $5 tickets from 4 separate locations.
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:lmfao:
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2013, 10:57:24 AM
I know one thing....having been in the shitter once, I will move heaven and earth not to go there again.
Even if it means spending 10 bucks on the longest of long shots.
If all that's keeping you from a lifetime of government cheese is a bunch of lottery tickets ... better hope they occasionally serve Wensleydale or Gorgonzolla. :D
I wonder if they called them lotteries for a reason ? :hmm:
Quote from: Malthus on March 22, 2013, 12:18:31 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2013, 10:57:24 AM
I know one thing....having been in the shitter once, I will move heaven and earth not to go there again.
Even if it means spending 10 bucks on the longest of long shots.
If all that's keeping you from a lifetime of government cheese is a bunch of lottery tickets ... better hope they occasionally serve Wensleydale or Gorgonzolla. :D
There is no more Gub'mint cheese. :cry:
Quote from: KRonn on April 06, 2012, 05:31:31 PM
we all got about $2600.00 a year, which hey, I'll take it!
$2600 a year for the rest of your life?
EuroMillions has a €111M jackpot on Tuesday. I wagered ten bucks. :blush:
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2013, 09:33:32 AM
I'm not loaded. I'm "well off".
I'd love to have a Lamborghini. :)
Lease one. There's one around here for $18k down, few k a month.
If I won some serious money, I'd like to buy a 4000 square foot house and then refuse to furnish it.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 23, 2013, 04:04:31 AM
If I won some serious money, I'd like to buy a 4000 square foot house and then refuse to furnish it.
Why?
Quote from: Ideologue on March 23, 2013, 04:04:31 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2013, 09:33:32 AM
I'm not loaded. I'm "well off".
I'd love to have a Lamborghini. :)
Lease one. There's one around here for $18k down, few k a month.
If I won some serious money, I'd like to buy a 4000 square foot house and then refuse to furnish it.
I don't lease cars.
:yes: Poor people behavior.
I'd rather just get it used. Like the Jags I'm constantly eyeing.
I've bought new before, but probably wouldn't do that again. It was kind of cool to have a brand-new car nobody had ever owned before, but probably not worth the price differential. Going forward I'd probably buy a 1 to 2 year old used car.
I need to start looking for new car as mine is now 20 years old, but can't make up mind on what to look at.
Something that can carry camera gear and gear table, so something SUV/wagonish.
I've always liked the Jeep Grand Cherokee for my SUV needs.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 23, 2013, 08:29:16 AM
I've always liked the Jeep Grand Cherokee for my SUV needs.
For somebody who hates Michelle Obama so much, you sure like to live like her.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 23, 2013, 08:32:46 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 23, 2013, 08:29:16 AM
I've always liked the Jeep Grand Cherokee for my SUV needs.
For somebody who hates Michelle Obama so much, you sure like to live like her.
HEY NOW
Quote from: katmai on March 23, 2013, 08:28:15 AM
I need to start looking for new car as mine is now 20 years old, but can't make up mind on what to look at.
Something that can carry camera gear and gear table, so something SUV/wagonish.
Princesca loves her Toyota 4Runner. :)
Quote from: katmai on March 23, 2013, 08:28:15 AM
I need to start looking for new car as mine is now 20 years old, but can't make up mind on what to look at.
Something that can carry camera gear and gear table, so something SUV/wagonish.
You live in Wrangler Country.
Actually this place has plethora of subarus.
The Languish FJ mafia can always use new members.
Quote from: katmai on March 23, 2013, 08:49:59 AM
Actually this place has plethora of subarus.
I'm very fond of my Subaru Forester. Unlike most SUV owners, I've actually driven it off-road. :D It has very good ground clearance, and most important to me, great all-around visibility when driving.
Yeah, those Foresters are tough little packages.
Quote from: Ideologue on March 23, 2013, 04:04:31 AM
If I won some serious money, I'd like to buy a 4000 square foot house and then refuse to furnish it.
:lol:
Is it time to bump this again? No one got the $360M last night so it went up to $470M.
Today seems like a good day to call in sick and hang out with the wife for her birthday, drive to the state line and buy a couple tickets. At least I get 3 days of dreaming what we will do with the money. You know how many times I can go to Waffle House with $470M?!
Got my tickets. My dream? 6 chicks at once.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:34:12 AM
Got my tickets. My dream? 6 chicks at once.
Ok, Lawrence.
Quote from: Caliga on March 23, 2013, 07:57:25 AM
:yes: Poor people behavior.
:huh: I agree that it makes no sense to lease a beater, but over here, pretty much everyone I know who has a luxury car leases it rather than owns it. I guess the two key differences are that luxury cars in the Merc E-class range have excellent residual value, and people in NYC area typically don't drive that much.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:34:12 AM
Got my tickets. My dream? 6 chicks at once.
:unsure:
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Ed's gonna become a rancher :)
$420M = Max & Meri Farms, west of Centralia, WA :)
10-acre home lot w/ two-level pool, volleyball court, and archery range
150 acres of meadows and trees
Four 10-acre pastures
Cows, pigs, goats, sheep, alpaca, horses, chickens
5000sqft Great Hall with restaurant-style kitchen for weddings/parties/etc
Two workshops: woodworking and metalsmithing
:wub:
Ugh.
Quote from: fahdiz on May 16, 2013, 11:02:10 AM
Ed's gonna become a rancher :)
Texas land is generally cheap. :alberta:
If I won a lottery I am really not sure how much it would change my life. I think I would get really bored really fast if I didnt work. I would scale back a bit and I would travel more but I think I would keep working.
I would also keep working. :)
Working at whatever the fuck I feel like.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 16, 2013, 02:52:43 PM
If I won a lottery I am really not sure how much it would change my life. I think I would get really bored really fast if I didnt work. I would scale back a bit and I would travel more but I think I would keep working.
Me too. I'd be a full-time artist.
Quote from: fahdiz on May 16, 2013, 03:49:35 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 16, 2013, 02:52:43 PM
If I won a lottery I am really not sure how much it would change my life. I think I would get really bored really fast if I didnt work. I would scale back a bit and I would travel more but I think I would keep working.
Me too. I'd be a full-time artist.
:yes:
I could recommend some areas much better than Centralia.
Though on the upside...Burgerville locations are nearby.
Quote from: merithyn on May 16, 2013, 11:17:57 AM
$420M = Max & Meri Farms, west of Centralia, WA :)
10-acre home lot w/ two-level pool, volleyball court, and archery range
150 acres of meadows and trees
Four 10-acre pastures
Cows, pigs, goats, sheep, alpaca, horses, chickens
5000sqft Great Hall with restaurant-style kitchen for weddings/parties/etc
Two workshops: woodworking and metalsmithing
:wub:
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:34:12 AM
Got my tickets. My dream? 6 chicks at once.
That's just an urban legend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerbilling
:P
That doesn't sound like very good value for your $420 million.
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 16, 2013, 04:13:38 PM
I could recommend some areas much better than Centralia.
Though on the upside...Burgerville locations are nearby.
Oh? Please share. :)
I actually want to go about 20 miles west of there. I like that it's almost equidistant between Portland and Seattle.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 16, 2013, 02:52:43 PM
If I won a lottery I am really not sure how much it would change my life. I think I would get really bored really fast if I didnt work. I would scale back a bit and I would travel more but I think I would keep working.
This. Maybe a "business" at some kind of hobby I enjoy even if I barely break even. With that amount of money invested properly you can live well and support a losing business off the interest.
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 16, 2013, 04:13:38 PM
I could recommend some areas much better than Centralia.
Though on the upside...Burgerville locations are nearby.
Quote from: merithyn on May 16, 2013, 11:17:57 AM
$420M = Max & Meri Farms, west of Centralia, WA :)
10-acre home lot w/ two-level pool, volleyball court, and archery range
150 acres of meadows and trees
Four 10-acre pastures
Cows, pigs, goats, sheep, alpaca, horses, chickens
5000sqft Great Hall with restaurant-style kitchen for weddings/parties/etc
Two workshops: woodworking and metalsmithing
:wub:
Was a nice area till 2007.
Flood plain. Not a good idea Get to higher ground. ;)
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Try Jefferson County
Methow Valley is one of favorites, but based on your apparent desires...the area just south of Mount Adams and north of the Columbia River would probably be ideal.
West of Centralia is definitely more wetter, timber country. If you had meant Aberdeen area? Reconsider.
Better yet...with 400 million? San Juan Island has farm land.
If I win, I'll be needing Serfs. No back talk allowed.
I'd start a wargamer retirement community. :bowler:
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 16, 2013, 08:11:22 PM
Methow Valley is one of favorites, but based on your apparent desires...the area just south of Mount Adams and north of the Columbia River would probably be ideal.
West of Centralia is definitely more wetter, timber country. If you had meant Aberdeen area? Reconsider.
Better yet...with 400 million? San Juan Island has farm land.
You bet
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You cant beat that
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
If I win, I'll be needing Serfs. No back talk allowed.
If i win i'm throwing party at Chataeu Butt in Normandy, free airfare to all Languishites!
Quote from: Habbaku on May 16, 2013, 08:14:16 PM
I'd start a wargamer retirement community. :bowler:
When you running for Prez?
Quote from: Habbaku on May 16, 2013, 08:14:16 PM
I'd start a wargamer retirement community. :bowler:
Martha, why are all these people wearing black Das Reich t-shirts?
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
If I win, I'll be needing Serfs. No back talk allowed.
So no change then.
Quote from: katmai on May 16, 2013, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
If I win, I'll be needing Serfs. No back talk allowed.
If i win i'm throwing party at Chataeu Butt in Normandy, free airfare to all Languishites!
Why you...
I can't shoot people there. :(
Quote from: Habbaku on March 28, 2012, 08:15:08 PM
If I had $27 million after taxes, you can guarantee that I'd waste at least $1.1 mil of it on something as dumb as this. As would just about everyone else here, I imagine.
Yes. Then buy me 10 million dollars in land with a big mountain in the middle, build a nice cabin on it. Call it the B4 conservation area. Humans not allowed. :P
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 16, 2013, 08:14:16 PM
I'd start a wargamer retirement community. :bowler:
Martha, why are all these people wearing black Das Reich t-shirts?
:D
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.military-print.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fdas%2520reich%2520t%2520front%2520reduced.jpg&hash=83445199bf5724621bda094500136e66673b50ef)
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:19:26 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 16, 2013, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
If I win, I'll be needing Serfs. No back talk allowed.
If i win i'm throwing party at Chataeu Butt in Normandy, free airfare to all Languishites!
Why you...
I can't shoot people there. :(
:D
Quote from: 11B4V on May 16, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 16, 2013, 08:14:16 PM
I'd start a wargamer retirement community. :bowler:
Martha, why are all these people wearing black Das Reich t-shirts?
:D
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.military-print.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fdas%2520reich%2520t%2520front%2520reduced.jpg&hash=83445199bf5724621bda094500136e66673b50ef)
All in XXXXL
So wearing it as a mumu?
Quote from: katmai on May 16, 2013, 08:25:13 PM
So wearing it as a mumu?
:lol:
The wargame and diabeetus ranch.
$550 million. I wonder what my parents would do with that if they won? 'Round the world cruise? :hmm:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-powerball-jackpot-20130516,0,1378623.story
I'd send Timmay to Mars.
Quote from: katmai on May 16, 2013, 08:29:42 PM
I'd send Timmay to Mars.
The sun would be better.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:31:04 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 16, 2013, 08:29:42 PM
I'd send Timmay to Mars.
The sun would be better.
Dammit you weren't suppose to tell him till after he's on the rocket!
Quote from: katmai on May 16, 2013, 08:41:07 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2013, 08:31:04 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 16, 2013, 08:29:42 PM
I'd send Timmay to Mars.
The sun would be better.
Dammit you weren't suppose to tell him till after he's on the rocket!
He doesn't read these threads. He's too busy jacking off to his RSS feed.
Quote from: Habbaku on May 16, 2013, 08:14:16 PM
I'd start a wargamer retirement community. :bowler:
Between all the bad eyesight, Parkinson's and naps, that would be a hoot.
I've been thinking, I really need to win the lottery. Maybe I'll write the lottery commission and see if they can work something out.
I would play Powerball for fun; wish they had an online option. Do I have to go to a physical gas station for ticket buying?
What would lottery ticket buying be if you didn't get silently judged by a gas station clerk making minimum wage? :hmm:
There's just much more opportunity cost and physical risk (well beyond the ticket price) for traveling to/inside a gas station rather than clicking from the comfort of my home. :(
Quote from: 11B4V on May 16, 2013, 08:14:27 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 16, 2013, 08:11:22 PM
Methow Valley is one of favorites, but based on your apparent desires...the area just south of Mount Adams and north of the Columbia River would probably be ideal.
West of Centralia is definitely more wetter, timber country. If you had meant Aberdeen area? Reconsider.
Better yet...with 400 million? San Juan Island has farm land.
You bet
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You cant beat that
:blink:
Where is this mythical Meth-Ow Valley? :hmm:
EDIT: Nevermind. I looked it up. It's four hours from Seattle, which kind of makes for a killer commute for Max.
Way to tease me. :glare:
That's a bullshit photo. They PhotoShopped Julie Andrews out.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2013, 08:08:25 AM
That's a bullshit photo. They PhotoShopped Julie Andrews out.
Hence "mythical". ;)
CF wants a house at the FL beach and I want one in the CO mountains, so we decided that with the $550M we'll get both. :)
Dreaming is fun. :P
Quote from: lustindarkness on May 17, 2013, 08:23:30 AM
CF wants a house at the FL beach and I want one in the CO mountains, so we decided that with the $550M we'll get both. :)
Dreaming is fun. :P
Good, when you are in Colorado you can visit me instead of just zooming by on the interstate like some other people.
Quote from: PDH on May 17, 2013, 09:22:09 AM
Quote from: lustindarkness on May 17, 2013, 08:23:30 AM
CF wants a house at the FL beach and I want one in the CO mountains, so we decided that with the $550M we'll get both. :)
Dreaming is fun. :P
Good, when you are in Colorado you can visit me instead of just zooming by on the interstate like some other people.
I also told her I would do a Languish Road Trip. :)
Quote from: lustindarkness on May 17, 2013, 08:23:30 AM
CF wants a house and I want one in the CO mountains,
Dreaming is fun. :P
I would do the same.
Quote from: merithyn on May 17, 2013, 08:15:42 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2013, 08:08:25 AM
That's a bullshit photo. They PhotoShopped Julie Andrews out.
Hence "mythical". ;)
Dont be haters. Buncha city slickers.
Quote from: 11B4V on May 17, 2013, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: merithyn on May 17, 2013, 08:15:42 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2013, 08:08:25 AM
That's a bullshit photo. They PhotoShopped Julie Andrews out.
Hence "mythical". ;)
Dont be haters. Buncha city slickers.
I know. :(
If we won a massive lotto winning I'm buying a huge wilderness cabin in the Yukon, plus some place in Europe that my life likes, and a private jet to fly between the two. :bowler:
Quote from: Malthus on May 16, 2013, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on May 16, 2013, 03:49:35 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 16, 2013, 02:52:43 PM
If I won a lottery I am really not sure how much it would change my life. I think I would get really bored really fast if I didnt work. I would scale back a bit and I would travel more but I think I would keep working.
Me too. I'd be a full-time artist.
:yes:
To be more specific: I'd set up my mom so she never had to worry about money again; I'd pay all my debts and buy an undeveloped lot out at the beach so I can build myself a house and live there when I get older; I'd do some travelling with the kids; I'd remodel my garage to almost double its size and turn it into a real shop, where I could build and repair things for friends and family; I'd spend other time working on art or pursuing whatever other hobbies take my fancy.
It would be nice to buy a little plot of land out in the middle of nowhere, too, so I could put up a cabin. I've always wanted a Camp Fahdiz.
I'd probably spend a good bit of time volunteering, too. Habitat For Humanity needs hammer-swingers.
If I win the lottery I will be rebuilding the traditional family home on the banks of the River Mersey...which will look weird amongst all those warehouses.
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2013, 11:08:08 AM
If I win the lottery I will be rebuilding the traditional family home on the banks of the River Mersey...which will look weird amongst all those warehouses.
Buy them all and tear them all down :)
Quote from: fahdiz on May 17, 2013, 11:08:40 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2013, 11:08:08 AM
If I win the lottery I will be rebuilding the traditional family home on the banks of the River Mersey...which will look weird amongst all those warehouses.
Buy them all and tear them all down :)
But what about all that meth he could make in those warehouses?
Quote from: lustindarkness on May 17, 2013, 12:06:52 PM
But what about all that meth he could make in those warehouses?
I am from Texas not Alabama <_<
I'll build a spaceship and withdraw from society.
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2013, 12:09:02 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on May 17, 2013, 12:06:52 PM
But what about all that meth he could make in those warehouses?
I am from Texas not Alabama <_<
True. Just change the spelling then, from warehouses to whorehouses. :)
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 17, 2013, 12:15:10 PM
I'll build a spaceship and withdraw from society.
Can I have your spaceship?
BTW, how does this town look? A cabin in the outskirts of course. http://www.ouraycolorado.com/
And for a beach house, CF like the Pensacola area. We spent a weekend at a house at Pensacola Beach that was awesome, any recomendations?
We should also start planning a few languish meets, we need to spend this money somehow. :)
Quote from: lustindarkness on May 17, 2013, 12:26:36 PM
BTW, how does this town look? A cabin in the outskirts of course. http://www.ouraycolorado.com/
And for a beach house, CF like the Pensacola area. We spent a weekend at a house at Pensacola Beach that was awesome, any recomendations?
We should also start planning a few languish meets, we need to spend this money somehow. :)
Screw Colorado. You want a place in Alaska. :cool:
Alaska is full.
Quote from: Barrister on May 17, 2013, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on May 17, 2013, 12:26:36 PM
BTW, how does this town look? A cabin in the outskirts of course. http://www.ouraycolorado.com/
And for a beach house, CF like the Pensacola area. We spent a weekend at a house at Pensacola Beach that was awesome, any recomendations?
We should also start planning a few languish meets, we need to spend this money somehow. :)
Screw Colorado. You want a place in Alaska. :cool:
I will visit first and decide later if I need to buy a cabin up there later. I will start by cabin colection with places I have visited first. ;)
My retreat will most likely be somewhere between southern Kentucky and northern Florida. Potential states include KY, TN, GA, AL, NC, SC, FL. :cool:
I would buy a place in Umbria I quite like. I would keep a place here in Vancouver and I would buy a place in Melbourne. That way when I become tired in living in the best city in the world (Vancouver and Melbourne always trading the #1 and #2 spots in ratings) I can take some time off in Umbria.
Quote from: Caliga on May 17, 2013, 12:46:43 PM
My retreat will most likely be somewhere between southern Kentucky and northern Florida. Potential states include KY, TN, GA, AL, NC, SC, FL. :cool:
Aren't you forgetting somebody?
Three cheers for Old Virginia, boys! Our silken banner wave on high! For Cal's Southern home we 'll fight and die! Hurrah ! hurrah ! hurrah !
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2013, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 17, 2013, 12:46:43 PM
My retreat will most likely be somewhere between southern Kentucky and northern Florida. Potential states include KY, TN, GA, AL, NC, SC, FL. :cool:
Aren't you forgetting somebody?
Three cheers for Old Virginia, boys! Our silken banner wave on high! For Cal's Southern home we 'll fight and die! Hurrah ! hurrah ! hurrah !
Va is a little too dark nowadays. IfyaknowwhatImean.
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2013, 01:01:30 PM
Aren't you forgetting somebody?
Three cheers for Old Virginia, boys! Our silken banner wave on high! For Cal's Southern home we 'll fight and die! Hurrah ! hurrah ! hurrah !
Too cold.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 17, 2013, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2013, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 17, 2013, 12:46:43 PM
My retreat will most likely be somewhere between southern Kentucky and northern Florida. Potential states include KY, TN, GA, AL, NC, SC, FL. :cool:
Aren't you forgetting somebody?
Three cheers for Old Virginia, boys! Our silken banner wave on high! For Cal's Southern home we 'll fight and die! Hurrah ! hurrah ! hurrah !
Va is a little too dark nowadays. IfyaknowwhatImean.
Did you read the list of acceptable states? :huh:
Quote from: Phillip V on May 17, 2013, 06:27:47 AM
There's just much more opportunity cost and physical risk (well beyond the ticket price) for traveling to/inside a gas station rather than clicking from the comfort of my home. :(
At least WA and CA had automated machines in most grocery stores (the high-class way of buying lotto tickets, far above meager gas stations). I understand MD has them in theory, but I never seen one outside of scratch-off ticket machines (the lowest of low class lottery gambling).
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 17, 2013, 02:51:01 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 17, 2013, 06:27:47 AM
There's just much more opportunity cost and physical risk (well beyond the ticket price) for traveling to/inside a gas station rather than clicking from the comfort of my home. :(
At least WA and CA had automated machines in most grocery stores (the high-class way of buying lotto tickets, far above meager gas stations). I understand MD has them in theory, but I never seen one outside of scratch-off ticket machines (the lowest of low class lottery gambling).
When I was poor, I bought all of my family members several scratch offs one Christmas. I liked the vending meachines as I didn't have to face anyone and ask to buy scratch offs. -_-
In Alabama it is easy, drive to the closest state that has it and buy it there. :)
All this lotto takl has given me the itch. There's a $20mil draw tonight. I think I'll drop $5 on it. :)
Quote from: garbon on May 17, 2013, 02:59:59 PM
When I was poor, I bought all of my family members several scratch offs one Christmas.
My mother started doing that years ago for various holidays. :lol: It's a hoot, watching everybody working scratch-offs at the Christmas or Easter dinner table. Baby Jesus wants me to match three bananas and win $40.
QuoteI liked the vending meachines as I didn't have to face anyone and ask to buy scratch offs. -_-
So humiliating, isn't it.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 17, 2013, 02:30:39 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 17, 2013, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2013, 01:01:30 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 17, 2013, 12:46:43 PM
My retreat will most likely be somewhere between southern Kentucky and northern Florida. Potential states include KY, TN, GA, AL, NC, SC, FL. :cool:
Aren't you forgetting somebody?
Three cheers for Old Virginia, boys! Our silken banner wave on high! For Cal's Southern home we 'll fight and die! Hurrah ! hurrah ! hurrah !
Va is a little too dark nowadays. IfyaknowwhatImean.
Did you read the list of acceptable states? :huh:
I don't read threads. That gets in the way.
Way to fag up the quotes Seedy.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2013, 03:25:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 17, 2013, 02:59:59 PM
When I was poor, I bought all of my family members several scratch offs one Christmas.
My mother started doing that years ago for various holidays. :lol: It's a hoot, watching everybody working scratch-offs at the Christmas or Easter dinner table. Baby Jesus wants me to match three bananas and win $40.
QuoteI liked the vending meachines as I didn't have to face anyone and ask to buy scratch offs. -_-
So humiliating, isn't it.
No, because it was a vending machine. :)
Discovered that gas station on the way to work is the only near place that serves dark roast coffee. Bought two Powerball tickets for fun. :D
BTW, why do I hear that as soon as I win my $600Mil tonight I need a lawyer? I see the use for an investment pro and an accountant, but why a lawyer? :unsure: Cant I just go and pick up my money and have it deposited in my account? What will a lawyer do for me?
Quote from: lustindarkness on May 18, 2013, 10:25:51 PM
BTW, why do I hear that as soon as I win my $600Mil tonight I need a lawyer? I see the use for an investment pro and an accountant, but why a lawyer? :unsure: Cant I just go and pick up my money and have it deposited in my account? What will a lawyer do for me?
He will lighten the load for you. Those briefcases full of cash are surprisingly heavy.
Quote from: lustindarkness on May 18, 2013, 10:25:51 PM
BTW, why do I hear that as soon as I win my $600Mil tonight I need a lawyer? I see the use for an investment pro and an accountant, but why a lawyer? :unsure: Cant I just go and pick up my money and have it deposited in my account? What will a lawyer do for me?
I remember back in Washington, some guy had one the lottery (just a fairly respectable amount in the state lotto), and instead of picking up the winnings himself, hired a lawyer to represent him and collect the prize...thus remaining safely anonymous (at least, from the lazy, unwashed masses).
Particular state laws/Powerball rules may prevent a similar tactic, however.
Only one ticket bought in Florida was winner.
That's fucked up. Hopefully it's won by somebody worthy of it. Like this guy last week.
QuoteMaybe you've heard this story before. Or dreamed it.
A man cleans out old lottery tickets from a cookie jar, and instead of throwing them away takes them to the 7-Eleven to check them out. And finds one of them is worth millions.
It gets better for Ricardo Cerezo of Geneva. He says his family was facing eviction, and he'll use part of the winnings — $4.85 million — to pay off the home.
"It couldn't have happened at a better time," said Cerezo, a management consultant. "I just thought, this is how God works."
Cerezo said his wife was cleaning out the kitchen and mentioned the lottery tickets that had accumulated over the past month in a glass cookie jar.
"It was either take them, get them checked, or she was going to trash them that night," he said.
Cerezo said he took the tickets to a 7-Eleven in Aurora and scanned them. The first eight or nine tickets weren't winners, he said.
"The following one was $3, so I was excited. I get to pay for my Pepsi. And then the last one said file a claim," he said, which meant it was worth at least $600.
Cerezo went online and found that the numbers matched the Feb. 2 Lotto drawing.
"As each number kept matching, the smile kept going higher and higher. And when I realized we had all six numbers, it was that shocking moment of , 'Whoa, can this really be?'" he said at a news conference Wednesday. "Fast forward to the next day, Monday: Called in sick from work, went down into Chicago. It's one of those feelings where it's OK if they fire me."
After he waited about half an hour, Cerezo said, lottery officials brought him into a room and said his ticket was worth $4.85 million.
Just three months earlier, Cerezo appeared at a foreclosure hearing where a judge gave him a few more months to find a new home before they would be evicted.
"That was on Feb. 12, so we were sitting on $4 million at that time in this jar," he said. "We will have our home paid off."
Cerezo said February holds special significance for him and his family because his daughter Savannah was born in that month. She died from a sudden illness last year at 14.
The town in FL they say the winning ticket was bought at, looks like a retiree trailer park mecca a ways outside of Tampa.
The heirs will probably be pleased.
I R SAD
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 19, 2013, 08:30:47 AM
I R SAD
So am I, no Languish party at Chateau Butt :(
He wouldn't invite you people anyway. He's the Howard Hughes of Languish. :)
Quote from: katmai on May 19, 2013, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 19, 2013, 08:30:47 AM
I R SAD
So am I, no Languish party at Chateau Butt :(
Hey, I just realized I never gave the exact location of Festung Normandie.
I thought he was the Bob Duggar of Languish.
Now that is insulting.
Then break the other leg.
Ugh, I'd have to go back to work. I couldn't tolerate that shit anymore. Fucking HR.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 19, 2013, 08:24:45 AM
That's fucked up. Hopefully it's won by somebody worthy of it. Like this guy last week.
QuoteMaybe you've heard this story before. Or dreamed it.
A man cleans out old lottery tickets from a cookie jar, and instead of throwing them away takes them to the 7-Eleven to check them out. And finds one of them is worth millions.
It gets better for Ricardo Cerezo of Geneva. He says his family was facing eviction, and he'll use part of the winnings — $4.85 million — to pay off the home.
"It couldn't have happened at a better time," said Cerezo, a management consultant. "I just thought, this is how God works."
Cerezo said his wife was cleaning out the kitchen and mentioned the lottery tickets that had accumulated over the past month in a glass cookie jar.
"It was either take them, get them checked, or she was going to trash them that night," he said.
Cerezo said he took the tickets to a 7-Eleven in Aurora and scanned them. The first eight or nine tickets weren't winners, he said.
"The following one was $3, so I was excited. I get to pay for my Pepsi. And then the last one said file a claim," he said, which meant it was worth at least $600.
Cerezo went online and found that the numbers matched the Feb. 2 Lotto drawing.
"As each number kept matching, the smile kept going higher and higher. And when I realized we had all six numbers, it was that shocking moment of , 'Whoa, can this really be?'" he said at a news conference Wednesday. "Fast forward to the next day, Monday: Called in sick from work, went down into Chicago. It's one of those feelings where it's OK if they fire me."
After he waited about half an hour, Cerezo said, lottery officials brought him into a room and said his ticket was worth $4.85 million.
Just three months earlier, Cerezo appeared at a foreclosure hearing where a judge gave him a few more months to find a new home before they would be evicted.
"That was on Feb. 12, so we were sitting on $4 million at that time in this jar," he said. "We will have our home paid off."
Cerezo said February holds special significance for him and his family because his daughter Savannah was born in that month. She died from a sudden illness last year at 14.
Why is he deserving?
Granted, it's difficult for you to wrap your particular type of empathy around it, but it's a feel-good story.
Until he goes broke again.
As a libertarian, I'd figure you wouldn't have a problem with that.
Honey, you must have me confused with someone else.
What do you care what somebody does with their money? That's not your job.
Is it your job to decide what's a feel-good story?
Yes.
Quote from: Caliga on May 19, 2013, 08:54:24 AM
He wouldn't invite you people anyway. He's the Howard Hughes of Languish. :)
i was the one that was gonna throw the party.
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 19, 2013, 08:29:14 AM
The town in FL they say the winning ticket was bought at, looks like a retiree trailer park mecca a ways outside of Tampa.
Yep, that describes Zephyrhills fairly accurately.
I think I have a good chance with the raffle at the Chinese Restaurant.
Quote from: garbon on May 19, 2013, 11:12:40 AM
Until he goes broke again.
Well he will have a paid-off home at least.
Besides that strikes me as a wise use of lottery winnings :hmm: what makes you so sure he will go broke again?
Quote from: Valmy on May 20, 2013, 12:46:47 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 19, 2013, 11:12:40 AM
Until he goes broke again.
Well he will have a paid-off home at least.
Besides that strikes me as a wise use of lottery winnings :hmm: what makes you so sure he will go broke again?
Probably too old for that. The heirs will do it instead.
Quote from: Valmy on May 20, 2013, 12:46:47 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 19, 2013, 11:12:40 AM
Until he goes broke again.
Well he will have a paid-off home at least.
Besides that strikes me as a wise use of lottery winnings :hmm: what makes you so sure he will go broke again?
He has a Hispanic name and has been broke once, seems a pretty safe bet to me.
Quote from: Valmy on May 20, 2013, 12:46:47 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 19, 2013, 11:12:40 AM
Until he goes broke again.
Well he will have a paid-off home at least.
Besides that strikes me as a wise use of lottery winnings :hmm: what makes you so sure he will go broke again?
His past history of going broke?
:yes:
Past behavior predicts future behavior. Why do you people think employers run backround checks? :sleep:
Quote from: Caliga on May 20, 2013, 01:29:26 PM
:yes:
Past behavior predicts future behavior. Why do you people think employers run backround checks? :sleep:
Plenty of people have gone broke and bounced back -_-
Quote from: Valmy on May 20, 2013, 02:30:38 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 20, 2013, 01:29:26 PM
:yes:
Past behavior predicts future behavior. Why do you people think employers run backround checks? :sleep:
Plenty of people have gone broke and bounced back -_-
The point was that it isn't very hard to see that a person who has gone broke before might end up broke again now that they've been given more money than they could have ever dreamed of having.
I would think having a bunch of money would make it less likely he would go broke.
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
I would think having a bunch of money would make it less likely he would go broke.
Easy come, easy go. :)
Quote from: Caliga on May 20, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
I would think having a bunch of money would make it less likely he would go broke.
Easy come, easy go. :)
There are some expenses which must be paid regardless of the condition of one's wallet.
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
I would think having a bunch of money would make it less likely he would go broke.
I wouldn't agree with that. He's already shown fiscal irresponsibility. Why wouldn't that reoccur when he's suddenly "rich" and can by expensive things? /has relatives who will want a helping hand.
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 07:13:53 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
I would think having a bunch of money would make it less likely he would go broke.
I wouldn't agree with that. He's already shown fiscal irresponsibility. Why wouldn't that reoccur when he's suddenly "rich" and can by expensive things? /has relatives who will want a helping hand.
What from the article makes you think it was financial irresponsibility and not something else that cause his troubles? Maybe it had to do with his 14 year old daughter dying of a sudden illness. It isn't like medical bills causing a perfectly fine middle class household to go bankrupt is unheard of.
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 08:52:24 PM
What from the article makes you think it was financial irresponsibility and not something else that cause his troubles? Maybe it had to do with his 14 year old daughter dying of a sudden illness. It isn't like medical bills causing a perfectly fine middle class household to go bankrupt is unheard of.
Not possible. If a person is in dire straits, it must be that person's fault. He/she should have planned, saved, and worked to avoid such unforeseen things like a serious illness that kills their child. If they haven't, well, that's just plain irresponsibility, and it's our place - no, our responsibility - to judge them harshly for the situation that they are in.
Anything less is simply unAmerican.
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 08:52:24 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 07:13:53 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
I would think having a bunch of money would make it less likely he would go broke.
I wouldn't agree with that. He's already shown fiscal irresponsibility. Why wouldn't that reoccur when he's suddenly "rich" and can by expensive things? /has relatives who will want a helping hand.
What from the article makes you think it was financial irresponsibility and not something else that cause his troubles? Maybe it had to do with his 14 year old daughter dying of a sudden illness. It isn't like medical bills causing a perfectly fine middle class household to go bankrupt is unheard of.
I considered that but they specified sudden illness. Still totally possible but in the absence of evidence in that direction, I don't know why we'd assume that he's actually good at managing money.
Besides, it isn't like it is an uncommon story for lottery winners to end up bankrupt.
Quote from: merithyn on May 20, 2013, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 08:52:24 PM
What from the article makes you think it was financial irresponsibility and not something else that cause his troubles? Maybe it had to do with his 14 year old daughter dying of a sudden illness. It isn't like medical bills causing a perfectly fine middle class household to go bankrupt is unheard of.
Not possible. If a person is in dire straits, it must be that person's fault. He/she should have planned, saved, and worked to avoid such unforeseen things like a serious illness that kills their child. If they haven't, well, that's just plain irresponsibility, and it's our place - no, our responsibility - to judge them harshly for the situation that they are in.
Anything less is simply unAmerican.
I would have expected better from you. :rolleyes:
Ah here we go - and I'll withdraw my pessimistic attitude. It appears sudden just referred to the onset and not the death.
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/05/17/daughter-dying-gift-turns-her-poor-family-into-new-millionaires/
QuoteRicardo Cerezo, the 44-year-old head of household, quit his job in management consulting in 2010 to take care of his daughter, Savannah, who had to stay home with severe bipolar disorder. A professional in helping companies in distress, he painstakingly took her to and from medical appointments and trips to the hospital.
But 14-year-old Savannah died last August. Brain-dead, her parents pulled her off life support after suffering four-and-a-half hours of seizures.
Though that said the article goes onto say how they are considering starting their own organization into researching mental health, among other things...
A Historical Tangent
George Washington wrote simply on June 19th, 1773: "At home all day. About five oclock poor Patcy Custis Died Suddenly."
He had raised his stepdaughter from when she was a toddler, but she grew sickly by adolescence with constant seizures. Her early death at age 17 passed on the inheritance from her wealthy father Daniel Custis to Washington. This windfall and absolution of medical duty enabled the Virginian planter to become general of the Continental Army without pay and leave behind his life at Mount Vernon for 8 years.
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How is that a parallel?
He called it a tangent.
Pretty sure it didn't say tangent at first. And in fact he edited it after my post. <_<
Phil is a sneaky sneak. :lol:
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: merithyn on May 20, 2013, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 08:52:24 PM
What from the article makes you think it was financial irresponsibility and not something else that cause his troubles? Maybe it had to do with his 14 year old daughter dying of a sudden illness. It isn't like medical bills causing a perfectly fine middle class household to go bankrupt is unheard of.
Not possible. If a person is in dire straits, it must be that person's fault. He/she should have planned, saved, and worked to avoid such unforeseen things like a serious illness that kills their child. If they haven't, well, that's just plain irresponsibility, and it's our place - no, our responsibility - to judge them harshly for the situation that they are in.
Anything less is simply unAmerican.
I would have expected better from you. :rolleyes:
Not sure why. I'm more than a little done with people assuming that current financial dire straits are the absolute fault of the individual, especially following one of the worst recessions the US has seen in decades. Not only that, but with the healthcare situation as ridiculous as it is, my first assumption is almost always "Oh, medical trauma in the family without health insurance, probably," not, "deadbeat."
And yet... no. Not even close. It absolutely
has to be poor money management. :rolleyes:
Yeah we should never put responsibility on individuals when we can blame someone else. And you're right, I won't make that mistake again now that you've given your true measure.
Let alone the fact that we were discussing a lottery winner and whether they might spend it all.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 20, 2013, 10:21:03 PM
Phil is a sneaky sneak. :lol:
Washington was quite vigorous about information warfare and putting together a very secretive ring of spies. However, he did indeed let himself be duped by the traitorous Benedict and Mrs. Arnold, the latter beautiful 20-year-old escaping by stripping off her clothes and acting crazy surprised.
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Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
Yeah we should never put responsibility on individuals when we can blame someone else. And you're right, I won't make that mistake again now that you've given your true measure.
Let alone the fact that we were discussing a lottery winner and whether they might spend it all.
g, it said right in the article that his daughter had been sick and he'd quit his job to care for her. That you immediately jumped on the "poor money management" schtick was ridiculous.
Quote from: merithyn on May 20, 2013, 10:33:56 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
Yeah we should never put responsibility on individuals when we can blame someone else. And you're right, I won't make that mistake again now that you've given your true measure.
Let alone the fact that we were discussing a lottery winner and whether they might spend it all.
g, it said right in the article that his daughter had been sick and he'd quit his job to care for her. That you immediately jumped on the "poor money management" schtick was ridiculous.
In my article sure. Seedy's article just said he had a daughter that died of a sudden illness. But perhaps you're right - when I come across someone having money troubles I should figure it is because of Republican lawmakers.
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:39:45 PM
when I come across someone having money troubles I should figure it is because of Republican lawmakers.
Glad that's settled. :P
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:39:45 PM
Quote from: merithyn on May 20, 2013, 10:33:56 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
Yeah we should never put responsibility on individuals when we can blame someone else. And you're right, I won't make that mistake again now that you've given your true measure.
Let alone the fact that we were discussing a lottery winner and whether they might spend it all.
g, it said right in the article that his daughter had been sick and he'd quit his job to care for her. That you immediately jumped on the "poor money management" schtick was ridiculous.
In my article sure. Seedy's article just said he had a daughter that died of a sudden illness. But perhaps you're right - when I come across someone having money troubles I should figure it is because of Republican lawmakers.
You don't necessarily have to do that, but also you probably shouldn't automatically assume that someone that had financial trouble once is a sure bet to piss away $4 million in lottery winnings.
Who said I was perfectly sure? I was just looking at likely outcomes given facts on hand.
I also just wanted to annoy Seedy for his hippie bullshit. :P
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 12:01:47 AM
Who said I was perfectly sure? I was just looking at likely outcomes given facts on hand.
I also just wanted to annoy Seedy for his hippie bullshit. :P
Annoying Seedy is always a legit reason to do or say anything.
However you seemed pretty sure that he would go broke again, based on "His past history of going broke"
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:39:45 PM
In my article sure. Seedy's article just said he had a daughter that died of a sudden illness. But perhaps you're right - when I come across someone having money troubles I should figure it is because of Republican lawmakers.
:huh:
I suggested that it was because of a poor economic situation (world-wide, mind you, so certainly not blaming the GOP) and the high-cost of medical care (there are a million reasons for that, and they neither start nor end with the GOP).
I'm not Seedy. Please don't assume that everything I say is a knock to the GOP.
Quote from: sbr on May 21, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
Annoying Seedy is always a legit reason to do or say anything.
WHATEVAH
QuoteHowever you seemed pretty sure that he would go broke again, based on "His past history of going broke"
Maybe not; he could've run out of daughters.
Quote from: sbr on May 21, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
However you seemed pretty sure that he would go broke again, based on "His past history of going broke"
And I'll continue to stand by the idea that if you hear a story about a broke lottery winner - it isn't unreasonable to guess that he'll likely end up broke again. However, as I then said, once seeing that he quit his job and spent all his money on his daughter who had a 2 year battle with illness - I revised my position. -_-
Quote from: merithyn on May 21, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:39:45 PM
In my article sure. Seedy's article just said he had a daughter that died of a sudden illness. But perhaps you're right - when I come across someone having money troubles I should figure it is because of Republican lawmakers.
:huh:
I suggested that it was because of a poor economic situation (world-wide, mind you, so certainly not blaming the GOP) and the high-cost of medical care (there are a million reasons for that, and they neither start nor end with the GOP).
I'm not Seedy. Please don't assume that everything I say is a knock to the GOP.
I just recall you being angry that I was too quick to blame the man for his own problems and not society.
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 10:59:12 AM
Quote from: merithyn on May 21, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
:huh:
I suggested that it was because of a poor economic situation (world-wide, mind you, so certainly not blaming the GOP) and the high-cost of medical care (there are a million reasons for that, and they neither start nor end with the GOP).
I'm not Seedy. Please don't assume that everything I say is a knock to the GOP.
I just recall you being angry that I was too quick to blame the man for his own problems and not society.
Given that societal problems like those I mention are endemic right now, yeah, it's pretty shitty to immediately jump to that without giving the person the benefit of the doubt. If this were 1950, that'd be one thing, but in 2013, it's pretty much 50/50 on where the blame could end up.
There are two kinds of people who have an extremely difficult time getting over the notion that poor people must have done something wrong to end up there: people who have never been poor, and people who have been poor but managed to luck out of their bad situation, but mistake their luck for skill.
Quote from: fahdiz on May 21, 2013, 11:09:41 AM
There are two kinds of people who have an extremely difficult time getting over the notion that poor people must have done something wrong to end up there: people who have never been poor, and people who have been poor but managed to luck out of their bad situation, but mistake their luck for skill.
Or they're just assholes.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 21, 2013, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on May 21, 2013, 11:09:41 AM
There are two kinds of people who have an extremely difficult time getting over the notion that poor people must have done something wrong to end up there: people who have never been poor, and people who have been poor but managed to luck out of their bad situation, but mistake their luck for skill.
Or they're just assholes.
That was option 1
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 10:58:20 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 21, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
However you seemed pretty sure that he would go broke again, based on "His past history of going broke"
And I'll continue to stand by the idea that if you hear a story about a broke lottery winner - it isn't unreasonable to guess that he'll likely end up broke again. However, as I then said, once seeing that he quit his job and spent all his money on his daughter who had a 2 year battle with illness - I revised my position. -_-
A rather unedifying position it was.
Quote from: fahdiz on May 21, 2013, 11:09:41 AM
There are two kinds of people who have an extremely difficult time getting over the notion that poor people must have done something wrong to end up there: people who have never been poor, and people who have been poor but managed to luck out of their bad situation, but mistake their luck for skill.
When in doubt we should assume that people who are having their homes foreclosed are just victims of society.
Also, how is this devolving into a discussion of all poor people? Obviously there are people who are born poor and the deck is stacked against them ever having money. That's different from a man who owned a home and then ceased to make payments.
Quote from: 11B4V on May 21, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 10:58:20 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 21, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
However you seemed pretty sure that he would go broke again, based on "His past history of going broke"
And I'll continue to stand by the idea that if you hear a story about a broke lottery winner - it isn't unreasonable to guess that he'll likely end up broke again. However, as I then said, once seeing that he quit his job and spent all his money on his daughter who had a 2 year battle with illness - I revised my position. -_-
A rather unedifying position it was.
I don't know about that. I learned that there were more members of Seedy's Angst Brigade.
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 11:50:30 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 21, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 10:58:20 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 21, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
However you seemed pretty sure that he would go broke again, based on "His past history of going broke"
And I'll continue to stand by the idea that if you hear a story about a broke lottery winner - it isn't unreasonable to guess that he'll likely end up broke again. However, as I then said, once seeing that he quit his job and spent all his money on his daughter who had a 2 year battle with illness - I revised my position. -_-
A rather unedifying position it was.
I don't know about that. I learned that there were more members of Seedy's Angst Brigade.
:lol:
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 11:49:47 AM
When in doubt we should assume that people who are having their homes foreclosed are just victims of society.
I guess my position is that it seems a bit counterproductive to assume anything about it.
QuoteAlso, how is this devolving into a discussion of all poor people? Obviously there are people who are born poor and the deck is stacked against them ever having money. That's different from a man who owned a home and then ceased to make payments.
Either could have run into circumstances beyond their control, though. I would think that after 2008 no one would be quite so quick to jump to conclusions, that's all.
JOHNNY! TIME TO RUB THE BUNIONS!
QuoteFla. widow, 84, claims $590M Powerball jackpot
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — An 84-year-old Florida widow who bought her Powerball ticket after another customer let her get ahead in line came forward Wednesday to claim the biggest undivided lottery jackpot in history: $590 million.
Gloria C. MacKenzie, a retiree from Maine and a mother of four who lives in a modest, tin-roof house in Zephyrhills, where the lone winning ticket in the May 18 drawing was sold, took her prize in a lump sum of just over $370 million. After federal taxes, she is getting about $278 million, lottery officials said.
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20130605/US-Powerball-Winner-Florida/
To the chagrin of her children, she will live another 20 years and then donate all the money to charity.
Or leave it all to the cat.
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 11:50:30 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 21, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 10:58:20 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 21, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
However you seemed pretty sure that he would go broke again, based on "His past history of going broke"
And I'll continue to stand by the idea that if you hear a story about a broke lottery winner - it isn't unreasonable to guess that he'll likely end up broke again. However, as I then said, once seeing that he quit his job and spent all his money on his daughter who had a 2 year battle with illness - I revised my position. -_-
A rather unedifying position it was.
I don't know about that. I learned that there were more members of Seedy's Angst Brigade.
:lol: No shit.
Quote from: fahdiz on May 21, 2013, 11:52:30 AM
I guess my position is that it seems a bit counterproductive to assume anything about it.
Counterproductive to what?
Quote from: fahdiz on May 21, 2013, 11:52:30 AM
Either could have run into circumstances beyond their control, though. I would think that after 2008 no one would be quite so quick to jump to conclusions, that's all.
Or could easily, as we've seen many times before, be people who live beyond their means.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-powerball-winner-ahead-regrets/story?id=19336614#.UbENKfnrxrk
QuoteWoman Who Let Powerball Winner Go Ahead of Her Has No Regrets
When Gloria C. Mackenzie claimed her $590.5 million Powerball jackpot, she released a statement revealing that another woman "was kind enough" to allow her to cut in line when she purchased the winning ticket.
That woman, Mindy Crandell, 34, is not upset that her charitable gesture likely cost her an enormous fortune and says "things are meant to be for a reason."
Crandell, of Zephyrhills, Fla., was in line to purchase lottery tickets in Publix on May 18 while tending to one of her two daughters when Mackenzie, 84, stepped in front of her.
"My 10-year-old said, 'Mom, There's a lady in front of us.' I noticed that the lady was there. Didn't pay a lot of mind to it," Crandall said.
The lady at the counter stopped Mackenzie to allow Crandell to reclaim her spot in line. Crandell declined the offer and told Mackenzie "go ahead. " It was a move that could have potentially cost the Crandells the $590.5 million Powerball ticket. Mackenzie purchased one Quick Pick ticket and left the store.
Crandell said family and friends began teasing her that the lady she allowed to cut in line was going to win the mega jackpot. But Crandell thought there was no way the lady was going to be the winner.
"The joke was, that's the lady that's going to win it. I was like, 'Yeah right. No one is going to win from little Zephyrhills,'" Crandell said.
Later that night, Mackenzie matched all five numbers including the Powerball while Crandell was at home still being teased by family members that the lady in the line was probably the winner. It was a joke that she would endure for the next two weeks.
When Mackenzie claimed the money on Wednesday, Crandell's 10-year-old daughter, Mallory, immediately recognized her from Publix.
"My daughter was like, 'Mom, look at the lady,'" Crandell said. "Same day, same store. What's the chances of that happening?"
Mackenzie has not disclosed her plans for the money. In a statement to ABC News, William P. Brant, Mackenzie's attorney, denied requests for an interview and said the family wants to "maintain their privacy."
Mackenzie has opted for the lump sum cash payout of $370.8 million, before taxes, instead of 30 annual payments of $19 million, a lottery official said.
Crandell holds no ill-will toward Mackenzie and hopes the money "truly blesses her family." The one thing Crandell did gain from the incident was a lesson she hopes her daughters learned.
"It could have been us, but things happen. Sometimes it's better to be patient than right. I knew we were teaching our daughter the right thing," Crandell said.
ABC News' Geetika Rudra contributed to this report
Considering the sheer number of lotto tickets being generated across the nation at that particular moment in time, anything from reaching out for that pack of gum before getting the ticket printed to sneezing would've fucked up her positioning in the space-time continuum.
I'd be funny as all fucked up hell if she sent her a thank you note. :lol:
Yet another example of the old stealing from the young.
REPEAL MEDICARE
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 06, 2013, 05:49:49 PM
Considering the sheer number of lotto tickets being generated across the nation at that particular moment in time, anything from reaching out for that pack of gum before getting the ticket printed to sneezing would've fucked up her positioning in the space-time continuum.
The extra two minutes it took for the old lady to shuffle up to the counter and get the ticket "ordered" is what got her into that spot in the first place.
I probably would have won instead. I hate both of them. :mad:
Had I won it, the languish party would have been The Awesome. :(
Hey scum, powerball is up to 400mil+. GET YOUR TICKET NOW.
And weep bitterly tomorrow about not winning.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 05:08:30 PM
Hey scum, powerball is up to 400mil+. GET YOUR TICKET NOW.
And weep bitterly tomorrow about not winning.
Pass/
More tickets for me.
Only bought 5 tickets. Win, and 6 chicks at one time.
I'm sure you were about to purchase tickets in the village. :P
I read an article about people no longer getting as interested at times when payouts are less than 100 mil. They had some guy who had one 70 mil who still buys his quick picks saying that if you aren't playing when it is at 40 mil, you've something wrong in the head. Ermm...:unsure:
I only buy for the big jackpots.
I still occasionally buy the scratch off tickets. And have fairly good luck.
I'm shit outta luck anyway. Money's better spent on smokes.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 07, 2013, 05:44:19 PM
I'm shit outta luck anyway. Money's better spent on smokes.
Don't worry. I got your back when I win. FREE EVE ONLINE JUST FOR YOU!
I'm gonna found the Ed Anger Center of Misogyny and Patarichy.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 05:15:33 PM
More tickets for me.
Only bought 5 tickets. Win, and 6 chicks at one time.
Not 400? Maybe 500 if you buy wholesale.
I think DG has a gonnegtion.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 07, 2013, 06:34:33 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 05:15:33 PM
More tickets for me.
Only bought 5 tickets. Win, and 6 chicks at one time.
Not 400? Maybe 500 if you buy wholesale.
I think DG has a gonnegtion.
Even I have my limits.
I didn't even get a single number. :lol:
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/16/winning-the-lottery-but-keeping-your-job/
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Back up over 400 million. Spent 8 bucks of my folding money on a chance to have wives in every European country.
I'd suggest sliding that money into a discretionary fund for downtrodden languishites. I think you'd get more bang for your buck that way.
I'd be happy to break even on a fucking scratch-off these days, but nooooo.
Powerball at 900+ and no one has bumped this thread?
If I get it I will do something useful with the $. I will buy some land with a nice big pond,and have me a true pirate ship built for the pond. I shall invite you guys for a languish meet. :pirate
I have to get gas anyway so I might buy a ticket.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 09, 2016, 05:47:51 PM
I have to get gas anyway so I might buy a ticket.
I have gas. :blush:
Quote from: lustindarkness on January 09, 2016, 05:51:47 PM
I have gas. :blush:
There's no law that says you have to eat black beans with every meal.
Article 31.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 09, 2016, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on January 09, 2016, 05:51:47 PM
I have gas. :blush:
There's no law that says you have to eat black beans with every meal.
Red beans. And white rice.
I'm steadfastly against buying lottery tickets. The way I see it, you either don't win, or worse, you do win. But I have to say my strength of conviction is wavering right now. :hmm:
Quote from: DGuller on January 09, 2016, 07:33:54 PM
I'm steadfastly against buying lottery tickets. The way I see it, you either don't win, or worse, you do win. But I have to say my strength of conviction is wavering right now. :hmm:
There's a similar thing going on over here, some lottery is in it's final roll-over, a dozen times or something, because they tweaked the digits in the draw; our R.S.S. has said you're something like 15 or was it 150 times more likely to be struck by lightning that win this draw.
Mugs game.
I think looking at the lottery from the expected value point of view is silly. It's fine to be risk-seeking if you get some enjoyment out of it. Unless you're buying hundreds of dollars worth of tickets, then that looks a little pathetic, to be honest.
My concern is that winning a lottery uproots your life in a way that is almost never positive. So it's not that your odds of winning are low, but in life-terms they're in fact zero.
Bought 3 tickets.
How much is each ticket?
2 bucks.
Quote from: DGuller on January 09, 2016, 07:43:02 PM
I think looking at the lottery from the expected value point of view is silly. It's fine to be risk-seeking if you get some enjoyment out of it. Unless you're buying hundreds of dollars worth of tickets, then that looks a little pathetic, to be honest.
My concern is that winning a lottery uproots your life in a way that is almost never positive. So it's not that your odds of winning are low, but in life-terms they're in fact zero.
Which is why if you wish to bet for entertainment, why not gamble for jackpot winnings that you'd like and appreciate?
For instance what about horse racing, it's easy to learn the ropes, visit racetracks for nice days out and you can bet such that, say one will aim to win $100,000 in an afternoon, whether by individual bets or an accumulator.
That way you may end up with winnings that you'll be more comfortable with and doesn't impose the problems you mentioned above.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 09, 2016, 08:03:04 PM
2 bucks.
:hmm: All right, I'm about to lose my Iowa bet, I need to replenish my capital. Let's see if anyone around me is selling some of those Powerball tickets.
Quote from: DGuller on January 09, 2016, 07:43:02 PM
My concern is that winning a lottery uproots your life in a way that is almost never positive.
I find this claim dubious.
Two newstands in the neighborhood are closed today. Lol capitalism. The one in the mall has a long-ass line. I guess it's worth it for 900 mil.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 09, 2016, 08:28:34 PM
Quote from: DGuller on January 09, 2016, 07:43:02 PM
My concern is that winning a lottery uproots your life in a way that is almost never positive.
I find this claim dubious.
We are talking about DG here.
If he won he'd probably enter some Risk-reward feedback loop and implode in a cloud of calculus. :cool:
Life is about a journey, not the destination.
I bought a few tickets. I would risk the danger of a terrible life of wealth.
We should start a Languish pool.
Reply and quote to this message if you agree to kick in 1% of your winnings to be distributed among everyone else who agrees to participate.
Quote from: DGuller on January 09, 2016, 08:35:57 PM
Life is about a journey, not the destination.
First class plane tickets, luxury cruises, having a chauffeur vs. bus pass or beat up clunker? I think the first option may be the more enjoyable journey. :hmm: :P
There is the risk that somebody may lose their sense of purpose when they stop getting a paycheck, but they have lots of choices to fill that void(including working the job they had before winning).
Quote from: mongers on January 09, 2016, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: DGuller on January 09, 2016, 07:43:02 PM
I think looking at the lottery from the expected value point of view is silly. It's fine to be risk-seeking if you get some enjoyment out of it. Unless you're buying hundreds of dollars worth of tickets, then that looks a little pathetic, to be honest.
My concern is that winning a lottery uproots your life in a way that is almost never positive. So it's not that your odds of winning are low, but in life-terms they're in fact zero.
Which is why if you wish to bet for entertainment, why not gamble for jackpot winnings that you'd like and appreciate?
For instance what about horse racing, it's easy to learn the ropes, visit racetracks for nice days out and you can bet such that, say one will aim to win $100,000 in an afternoon, whether by individual bets or an accumulator.
That way you may end up with winnings that you'll be more comfortable with and doesn't impose the problems you mentioned above.
That's the crazy thing about these jackpots...I am quite sure most of the mugs standing in line for a $900m ticket would have been more than happy with the $300m it was a few weeks ago. Or even $4m from just the local state lottery (with better...if only in scale...odds). But people see almost-instant-billionaire and lose their minds. :P
That being said, I did lay out some Powerball (it was at $300m then) when I was home for the holidays. Alaska though, keeps one thrifty. :sleep:
Quote from: Berkut on January 09, 2016, 08:58:19 PM
We should start a Languish pool.
Reply and quote to this message if you agree to kick in 1% of your winnings to be distributed among everyone else who agrees to participate.
Sadly I live in one of like 6 states that doesn't particpate in powerball, other wise sure! :P
Quote from: katmai on January 09, 2016, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 09, 2016, 08:58:19 PM
We should start a Languish pool.
Reply and quote to this message if you agree to kick in 1% of your winnings to be distributed among everyone else who agrees to participate.
Sadly I live in one of like 6 states that doesn't particpate in powerball, other wise sure! :P
Might be better to say that we simply have no lottery to speak of (as, say, Washington state has several different ones). :P
Quote from: Tonitrus on January 09, 2016, 09:05:37 PM
That's the crazy thing about these jackpots...I am quite sure most of the mugs standing in line for a $900m ticket would have been more than happy with the $300m it was a few weeks ago. Or even $4m from just the local state lottery (with better...if only in scale...odds). But people see almost-instant-billionaire and lose their minds. :P
That being said, I did lay out some Powerball (it was at $300m then) when I was home for the holidays. Alaska though, keeps one thrifty. :sleep:
Your expected ROI is actually better now, because you're getting subsidized by all the people who spent money and didn't win a couple weeks ago.
Berkut, for this to be a fair pool that is free of shenanigans, that 1% has to be allocated proportional to the number of tickets bought (evidence being presented after we find out which one of us won).
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 09, 2016, 08:59:31 PM
There is the risk that somebody may lose their sense of purpose when they stop getting a paycheck, but they have lots of choices to fill that void(including working the job they had before winning).
Going to work as a hobby doesn't give you the same sense of purpose that going to work because it's necessary does. We need some stress to not decompose mentally, just not too much of it. How much satisfaction does a game give you after you enter a cheat code and get essentially infinite resources?
That said, I bought 10 tickets. While I firmly believe that winning a lottery carries a very high chance of being a curse in disguise, as a scientifically minded person, I have an obligation to test my theory. So we'll see.
Quote from: DGuller on January 09, 2016, 09:30:29 PM
Berkut, for this to be a fair pool that is free of shenanigans, that 1% has to be allocated proportional to the number of tickets bought (evidence being presented after we find out which one of us won).
If I win $900 million, I don't think I will get too hung up on whether or not someone else bought one or two tickets.
Quote from: Berkut on January 09, 2016, 10:01:05 PM
Quote from: DGuller on January 09, 2016, 09:30:29 PM
Berkut, for this to be a fair pool that is free of shenanigans, that 1% has to be allocated proportional to the number of tickets bought (evidence being presented after we find out which one of us won).
If I win $900 million, I don't think I will get too hung up on whether or not someone else bought one or two tickets.
What if someone buys zero tickets but says they're in?
OK, so how about this?
The winner will kick in 1% of their winnings, to be divided among all participants, with each participant getting a single share of the winnings per number of tickets purchased.
In order to get your cut, you MUST:
1. Commit to participation before the drawing at 11pm EST tonight, and
2. Prove you actually had tickets purchased.
I bought 5.
Winning is only defined as matching all numbers.
Quote from: Berkut on January 09, 2016, 10:05:14 PM
OK, so how about this?
The winner will kick in 1% of their winnings, to be divided among all participants, with each participant getting a single share of the winnings per number of tickets purchased.
In order to get your cut, you MUST:
1. Commit to participation before the drawing at 11pm EST tonight, and
2. Prove you actually had tickets purchased.
I bought 5.
QuoteWinning is only defined as matching all numbers.
I'm in. I bought 10.
Lets define 1% of winnings as 1% of actual net winnings before taxes, assuming you take the buyout option.
Damn, this is a lot harder to define than I thought...
Winner pays for the lawyer to figure all this out.
lol
Ten fucking tickets, and nothing? What a joke.
I did not get a single number right. Not one.
As pissed off as I was an hour ago when I realized I forgot to get my tickets, it probably didn't reduce my chances all that much.
I matched one number! :punk:
no one got all the numbers.
QuoteThe estimated jackpot on Wednesday will be $1.3 billion, according to the official Powerball site, which would be worth $806 million if a single winner chose to take the windfall as a cash lump sum rather than over time as annuity payments.
I'm shocked that the accountant couldn't figure out the right numbers.
Quote from: DGuller on January 09, 2016, 11:08:52 PM
Ten fucking tickets, and nothing? What a joke.
What do they say about a fool and his money? :P
I was too busy playing Black Ops 3 to check last night. No party pirate ship :(. It was nice to dream for a couple of days. :)
Quote from: The Brain on January 10, 2016, 04:14:11 AM
I'm shocked that the accountant couldn't figure out the right numbers.
Nate Silver said it was 73% that someone would win.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 10, 2016, 08:47:18 AM
Quote from: The Brain on January 10, 2016, 04:14:11 AM
I'm shocked that the accountant couldn't figure out the right numbers.
Nate Silver said it was 73% that someone would win.
I don't buy it, the chance of someone winning in November is nowhere near that high.
Quote from: mongers on January 10, 2016, 08:49:32 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 10, 2016, 08:47:18 AM
Quote from: The Brain on January 10, 2016, 04:14:11 AM
I'm shocked that the accountant couldn't figure out the right numbers.
Nate Silver said it was 73% that someone would win.
I don't buy it, the chance of someone winning in November is nowhere near that high.
Next November we will all lose. :cry:
Quote from: The Brain on January 10, 2016, 04:14:11 AM
I'm shocked that the accountant couldn't figure out the right numbers.
:mad:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 10, 2016, 08:47:18 AM
Quote from: The Brain on January 10, 2016, 04:14:11 AM
I'm shocked that the accountant couldn't figure out the right numbers.
Nate Silver said it was 73% that someone would win.
Not everything on FiveThirtyEight is written by Silver. :P Walt Hickey (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/powerball-jackpot-800-million-odds/) did the calculation, and it was actually 77%.
Something went wrong in my first experiment. Let's try again.
Quote from: DGuller on January 11, 2016, 06:14:18 PM
Something went wrong in my first experiment. Let's try again.
You may be on the verge of developing a 'problem'.
I can help, everytime you feel the need to do this compulsive behaviour, just post the cash across the Atlantic to me and I'll keep it 'safe' until you come to your senses. :bowler:
He's clearly got a problem. He put money on Trump ffs.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 11, 2016, 07:32:00 PM
He's clearly got a problem. He put money on Trump ffs.
I only bet on Trump because Yi wouldn't let me bet against him. :mad:
QuotePOWERBALL WINNERS BUILD A FIRE STATION FOR SMALL TOWN
When Mark Hill won the Powerball lottery, he found the perfect way to contribute to the community. Hill and his family decided to use their winning money to build a fire station in Camden Point, Missouri.
Hill explained that local firefighters rescued his father twice and this was his way to pay them back.
The new fire station includes a place where ambulances and fire trucks park and there is also a training room in the building. The fire station will be released on July 16.
When Camden Point fire chief Walt Stubbs was first informed about the intention of the Hill family to build a fire station, he wasn't so surprised.
He said although money has a way of changing people, the Hills are good people who want to help others.
And this is not the only donation the Hill family made with their winning money. They also donated an amount to create a new ball field and get land for a new sewage treatment plant. They created a scholarship fund to the high school they attended themselves as well.
The Hills split $588 million with another winner in November 2012. The sum of money they received after tax reduction was $136.5 million. Although they suddenly became very rich, they decided to stay humble.
Mark Hill only recently gave his first televised interview after he won the lottery. He expressed his pride to have contributed to building a fire station that is manned 24/7 in their small town of 500 people.
That's pretty cool.