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Reason #5,110 to hate lottery winners

Started by CountDeMoney, March 16, 2012, 05:07:41 AM

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Phillip V

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 20, 2013, 10:21:03 PM
Phil is a sneaky sneak.  :lol:
Washington was quite vigorous about information warfare and putting together a very secretive ring of spies. However, he did indeed let himself be duped by the traitorous Benedict and Mrs. Arnold, the latter beautiful 20-year-old escaping by stripping off her clothes and acting crazy surprised.


merithyn

Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
Yeah we should never put responsibility on individuals when we can blame someone else. And you're right, I won't make that mistake again now that you've given your true measure.

Let alone the fact that we were discussing a lottery winner and whether they might spend it all.

g, it said right in the article that his daughter had been sick and he'd quit his job to care for her. That you immediately jumped on the "poor money management" schtick was ridiculous.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

garbon

Quote from: merithyn on May 20, 2013, 10:33:56 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
Yeah we should never put responsibility on individuals when we can blame someone else. And you're right, I won't make that mistake again now that you've given your true measure.

Let alone the fact that we were discussing a lottery winner and whether they might spend it all.

g, it said right in the article that his daughter had been sick and he'd quit his job to care for her. That you immediately jumped on the "poor money management" schtick was ridiculous.

In my article sure. Seedy's article just said he had a daughter that died of a sudden illness. But perhaps you're right - when I come across someone having money troubles I should figure it is because of Republican lawmakers.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:39:45 PM
when I come across someone having money troubles I should figure it is because of Republican lawmakers.

Glad that's settled.  :P
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

sbr

Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:39:45 PM
Quote from: merithyn on May 20, 2013, 10:33:56 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
Yeah we should never put responsibility on individuals when we can blame someone else. And you're right, I won't make that mistake again now that you've given your true measure.

Let alone the fact that we were discussing a lottery winner and whether they might spend it all.

g, it said right in the article that his daughter had been sick and he'd quit his job to care for her. That you immediately jumped on the "poor money management" schtick was ridiculous.

In my article sure. Seedy's article just said he had a daughter that died of a sudden illness. But perhaps you're right - when I come across someone having money troubles I should figure it is because of Republican lawmakers.

You don't necessarily have to do that, but also you probably shouldn't automatically assume that someone that had financial trouble once is a sure bet to piss away $4 million in lottery winnings.

garbon

Who said I was perfectly sure? I was just looking at likely outcomes given facts on hand.

I also just wanted to annoy Seedy for his hippie bullshit. :P
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

sbr

Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 12:01:47 AM
Who said I was perfectly sure? I was just looking at likely outcomes given facts on hand.

I also just wanted to annoy Seedy for his hippie bullshit. :P

Annoying Seedy is always a legit reason to do or say anything.

However you seemed pretty sure that he would go broke again, based on "His past history of going broke"

merithyn

Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:39:45 PM

In my article sure. Seedy's article just said he had a daughter that died of a sudden illness. But perhaps you're right - when I come across someone having money troubles I should figure it is because of Republican lawmakers.

:huh:

I suggested that it was because of a poor economic situation (world-wide, mind you, so certainly not blaming the GOP) and the high-cost of medical care (there are a million reasons for that, and they neither start nor end with the GOP).

I'm not Seedy. Please don't assume that everything I say is a knock to the GOP.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

CountDeMoney

Quote from: sbr on May 21, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
Annoying Seedy is always a legit reason to do or say anything.

WHATEVAH

QuoteHowever you seemed pretty sure that he would go broke again, based on "His past history of going broke"

Maybe not;  he could've run out of daughters.

garbon

Quote from: sbr on May 21, 2013, 12:05:51 AM
However you seemed pretty sure that he would go broke again, based on "His past history of going broke"

And I'll continue to stand by the idea that if you hear a story about a broke lottery winner - it isn't unreasonable to guess that he'll likely end up broke again.  However, as I then said, once seeing that he quit his job and spent all his money on his daughter who had a 2 year battle with illness - I revised my position. -_-
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: merithyn on May 21, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 10:39:45 PM

In my article sure. Seedy's article just said he had a daughter that died of a sudden illness. But perhaps you're right - when I come across someone having money troubles I should figure it is because of Republican lawmakers.

:huh:

I suggested that it was because of a poor economic situation (world-wide, mind you, so certainly not blaming the GOP) and the high-cost of medical care (there are a million reasons for that, and they neither start nor end with the GOP).

I'm not Seedy. Please don't assume that everything I say is a knock to the GOP.

I just recall you being angry that I was too quick to blame the man for his own problems and not society.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

merithyn

Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 10:59:12 AM
Quote from: merithyn on May 21, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
:huh:

I suggested that it was because of a poor economic situation (world-wide, mind you, so certainly not blaming the GOP) and the high-cost of medical care (there are a million reasons for that, and they neither start nor end with the GOP).

I'm not Seedy. Please don't assume that everything I say is a knock to the GOP.

I just recall you being angry that I was too quick to blame the man for his own problems and not society.

Given that societal problems like those I mention are endemic right now, yeah, it's pretty shitty to immediately jump to that without giving the person the benefit of the doubt. If this were 1950, that'd be one thing, but in 2013, it's pretty much 50/50 on where the blame could end up.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

fhdz

There are two kinds of people who have an extremely difficult time getting over the notion that poor people must have done something wrong to end up there: people who have never been poor, and people who have been poor but managed to luck out of their bad situation, but mistake their luck for skill.
and the horse you rode in on

CountDeMoney

Quote from: fahdiz on May 21, 2013, 11:09:41 AM
There are two kinds of people who have an extremely difficult time getting over the notion that poor people must have done something wrong to end up there: people who have never been poor, and people who have been poor but managed to luck out of their bad situation, but mistake their luck for skill.

Or they're just assholes.

PDH

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 21, 2013, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on May 21, 2013, 11:09:41 AM
There are two kinds of people who have an extremely difficult time getting over the notion that poor people must have done something wrong to end up there: people who have never been poor, and people who have been poor but managed to luck out of their bad situation, but mistake their luck for skill.

Or they're just assholes.

That was option 1
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

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