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Reason #5,110 to hate lottery winners

Started by CountDeMoney, March 16, 2012, 05:07:41 AM

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Caliga on May 20, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
I would think having a bunch of money would make it less likely he would go broke.
Easy come, easy go. :)

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garbon

Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
I would think having a bunch of money would make it less likely he would go broke.

I wouldn't agree with that. He's already shown fiscal irresponsibility. Why wouldn't that reoccur when he's suddenly "rich" and can by expensive things? /has relatives who will want a helping hand.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

sbr

Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 07:13:53 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
I would think having a bunch of money would make it less likely he would go broke.

I wouldn't agree with that. He's already shown fiscal irresponsibility. Why wouldn't that reoccur when he's suddenly "rich" and can by expensive things? /has relatives who will want a helping hand.

What from the article makes you think it was financial irresponsibility and not something else that cause his troubles?  Maybe it had to do with his 14 year old daughter dying of a sudden illness.  It isn't like medical bills causing a perfectly fine middle class household to go bankrupt is unheard of.

merithyn

Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 08:52:24 PM
What from the article makes you think it was financial irresponsibility and not something else that cause his troubles?  Maybe it had to do with his 14 year old daughter dying of a sudden illness.  It isn't like medical bills causing a perfectly fine middle class household to go bankrupt is unheard of.

Not possible. If a person is in dire straits, it must be that person's fault. He/she should have planned, saved, and worked to avoid such unforeseen things like a serious illness that kills their child. If they haven't, well, that's just plain irresponsibility, and it's our place - no, our responsibility - to judge them harshly for the situation that they are in.

Anything less is simply unAmerican.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

garbon

Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 08:52:24 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 07:13:53 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
I would think having a bunch of money would make it less likely he would go broke.

I wouldn't agree with that. He's already shown fiscal irresponsibility. Why wouldn't that reoccur when he's suddenly "rich" and can by expensive things? /has relatives who will want a helping hand.

What from the article makes you think it was financial irresponsibility and not something else that cause his troubles?  Maybe it had to do with his 14 year old daughter dying of a sudden illness.  It isn't like medical bills causing a perfectly fine middle class household to go bankrupt is unheard of.

I considered that but they specified sudden illness. Still totally possible but in the absence of evidence in that direction, I don't know why we'd assume that he's actually good at managing money.

Besides, it isn't like it is an uncommon story for lottery winners to end up bankrupt.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: merithyn on May 20, 2013, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 08:52:24 PM
What from the article makes you think it was financial irresponsibility and not something else that cause his troubles?  Maybe it had to do with his 14 year old daughter dying of a sudden illness.  It isn't like medical bills causing a perfectly fine middle class household to go bankrupt is unheard of.

Not possible. If a person is in dire straits, it must be that person's fault. He/she should have planned, saved, and worked to avoid such unforeseen things like a serious illness that kills their child. If they haven't, well, that's just plain irresponsibility, and it's our place - no, our responsibility - to judge them harshly for the situation that they are in.

Anything less is simply unAmerican.

I would have expected better from you. :rolleyes:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Ah here we go - and I'll withdraw my pessimistic attitude. It appears sudden just referred to the onset and not the death.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/05/17/daughter-dying-gift-turns-her-poor-family-into-new-millionaires/

QuoteRicardo Cerezo, the 44-year-old head of household, quit his job in management consulting in 2010 to take care of his daughter, Savannah, who had to stay home with severe bipolar disorder. A professional in helping companies in distress, he painstakingly took her to and from medical appointments and trips to the hospital.

But 14-year-old Savannah died last August. Brain-dead, her parents pulled her off life support after suffering four-and-a-half hours of seizures.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Though that said the article goes onto say how they are considering starting their own organization into researching mental health, among other things...
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Phillip V

#278
A Historical Tangent

George Washington wrote simply on June 19th, 1773: "At home all day. About five oclock poor Patcy Custis Died Suddenly."

He had raised his stepdaughter from when she was a toddler, but she grew sickly by adolescence with constant seizures. Her early death at age 17 passed on the inheritance from her wealthy father Daniel Custis to Washington. This windfall and absolution of medical duty enabled the Virginian planter to become general of the Continental Army without pay and leave behind his life at Mount Vernon for 8 years.


garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

garbon

Pretty sure it didn't say tangent at first. And in fact he edited it after my post. <_<
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

merithyn

Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: merithyn on May 20, 2013, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 20, 2013, 08:52:24 PM
What from the article makes you think it was financial irresponsibility and not something else that cause his troubles?  Maybe it had to do with his 14 year old daughter dying of a sudden illness.  It isn't like medical bills causing a perfectly fine middle class household to go bankrupt is unheard of.

Not possible. If a person is in dire straits, it must be that person's fault. He/she should have planned, saved, and worked to avoid such unforeseen things like a serious illness that kills their child. If they haven't, well, that's just plain irresponsibility, and it's our place - no, our responsibility - to judge them harshly for the situation that they are in.

Anything less is simply unAmerican.

I would have expected better from you. :rolleyes:

Not sure why. I'm more than a little done with people assuming that current financial dire straits are the absolute fault of the individual, especially following one of the worst recessions the US has seen in decades. Not only that, but with the healthcare situation as ridiculous as it is, my first assumption is almost always "Oh, medical trauma in the family without health insurance, probably," not, "deadbeat."

And yet... no. Not even close. It absolutely has to be poor money management.  :rolleyes:
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

garbon

Yeah we should never put responsibility on individuals when we can blame someone else. And you're right, I won't make that mistake again now that you've given your true measure.

Let alone the fact that we were discussing a lottery winner and whether they might spend it all.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.