QuoteWestboro to picket boys' funeral over gay marriage law
by Stephen Gray
10 February 2012, 9:26am
The homophobic Westboro Baptist Church has said it will picket the funeral of two young boys who were killed by their father at the weekend after the Washington state legislature voted in favour of gay marriage.
The notorious church will attend the funeral of the Charlie and Braden Powell in Tacoma, Washington.
Margie Phelps, son of the church's head Fred Phelps, tweeted that after gay marriage legislation in Washington was passed God had "cursed" the state by having Josh Powell kill his sons in a fire.
She said the picket would "remind" Washington Governor Christine Gregoire that the boys had died "because of her rebellion".
In January, Gregoire gave her support to proposed equal marriage legislation for Washington which has now passed through the state's senate and house of representatives.
She said last week: "As governor, I believe the state of Washington cannot be in the business of discrimination. As an American, a wife and mother, marriage equality is fair, just, and right. And it is time."
Governor Gregoire is expected to sign the equal marriage bill into law on Monday.
A thousand people joined a Facebook event to "create a buffer" between the protesters and the funeral.
Occupy Seattle said it would also protest against Westboro.
The funeral is due to take place tomorrow morning.
Good thing they are not atheists, as then they would have annoyed HVC and Raz. As it is, they are just preaching, which is a part of their religion and something that's, what's the word, HVC? "Admirable"?
To be fair, the Westboro types are not really Baptists. Cultists is a better term.
Trolls would be better.
Marty, do you realize that posting stuff like this is doing exactly what they want you to do?
Thing is, will they show up? They have a habit of saying they will do a picket and not show up.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 10, 2012, 10:18:29 AM
Thing is, will they show up? They have a habit of saying they will do a picket and not show up.
They don't have to show up to get what they want out of the stunt, which is to enrage people like Marty into supporting their cause by spreading their message for them.
Quote from: Berkut on February 10, 2012, 10:19:31 AM
They don't have to show up to get what they want out of the stunt, which is to enrage people like Marty into supporting their cause by spreading their message for them.
:yes:
Mart is too busy trying to shove his internet finger into HVC's chest to notice.
Quote from: PDH on February 10, 2012, 08:44:28 AM
To be fair, the Westboro types are not really Baptists. Cultists is a better term.
And a family-centered one at that; I think they have more family members in their little club than outsiders.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2012, 10:38:59 AMAnd a family-centered one at that; I think they have more family members in their little club than outsiders.
do they have any outsiders? :D
Quote from: Martinus on February 10, 2012, 08:29:42 AM
QuoteMargie Phelps, son of the church's head Fred Phelps, tweeted that after gay marriage legislation in Washington was passed God had "cursed" the state by having Josh Powell kill his sons in a fire.
She said the picket would "remind" Washington Governor Christine Gregoire that the boys had died "because of her rebellion".
:hmm: Physician, heal thyself.
Quote from: PDH on February 10, 2012, 08:44:28 AM
To be fair, the Westboro types are not really Baptists. Cultists is a better term.
You say that like there's any difference between a religion and a cult.
Quote from: Iormlund on February 10, 2012, 11:15:34 AM
You say that like there's any difference between a religion and a cult.
Cults are almost always personality centered.
Only exception I can think of is Scientology. :hmm:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 10, 2012, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on February 10, 2012, 11:15:34 AM
You say that like there's any difference between a religion and a cult.
Cults are almost always personality centered.
Only exception I can think of is Scientology. :hmm:
Nope, Scientology has nothing to do with L. Ron Hubbard's personality.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2012, 11:44:42 AM
Nope, Scientology has nothing to do with L. Ron Hubbard's personality.
Sure, but olde skool cults are supposed to fall apart when the leader dies. Scientology managed to bureaucratize and institutionalize itself.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 10, 2012, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on February 10, 2012, 11:15:34 AM
You say that like there's any difference between a religion and a cult.
Cults are almost always personality centered.
While mainstream religions are obviously not centered in certain figures like Jesus, Buddha or Mohammed. My bad.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 10, 2012, 11:46:15 AMSure, but olde skool cults are supposed to fall apart when the leader dies. Scientology managed to bureaucratize and institutionalize itself.
you ever read up on how scientology regards hubbard, like.. in their official histories? honest question. it's amusing, reminds me a bit of the north koreans consider kim il-sung
My reading of Scientology official histories is woefully inadequate. :blush:
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 10, 2012, 10:24:13 AM
Mart is too busy trying to shove his internet finger into HVC's chest to notice.
shoving the who in the what now?
*edit* oh, i see now. didn't notice marti's comment after the quote. it's ok, he'll go over it. i'll get one of my believing friends to pray for his soul :P
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 10, 2012, 03:04:33 PM
My reading of Scientology official histories is woefully inadequate. :blush:
wiki it when you have the chance for a brief intro, if you've the time :P
Quote from: HVC on February 10, 2012, 03:06:47 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 10, 2012, 10:24:13 AM
Mart is too busy trying to shove his internet finger into HVC's chest to notice.
shoving the who in the what now?
*edit* oh, i see now. didn't notice marti's comment after the quote. it's ok, he'll go over it. i'll get one of my believing friends to pray for his soul :P
If you want, I'll have my wife's church pray for all the doomed faggots in Poland. :)
I'll even say it like that to the preacherman. DOOMED FAGGOTS.
Quote from: Iormlund on February 10, 2012, 02:32:27 PM
While mainstream religions are obviously not centered in certain figures like Jesus, Buddha or Mohammed. My bad.
That is the institutionalization Yippee talked about. One of the easier (if a bit crass) ways to look at it is that a cult is a potential religion given good accountants and an ability to survive whatever apocalypse they predict.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 10, 2012, 11:46:15 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 10, 2012, 11:44:42 AM
Nope, Scientology has nothing to do with L. Ron Hubbard's personality.
Sure, but olde skool cults are supposed to fall apart when the leader dies. Scientology managed to bureaucratize and institutionalize itself.
What do you mean by "Olde Skool" cults?
Quote from: Razgovory on February 10, 2012, 04:10:02 PM
What do you mean by "Olde Skool" cults?
Jonestown, Koresh, that Indian dude who fucked Meeuh Farrow.
Quote from: PDH on February 10, 2012, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on February 10, 2012, 02:32:27 PM
While mainstream religions are obviously not centered in certain figures like Jesus, Buddha or Mohammed. My bad.
That is the institutionalization Yippee talked about. One of the easier (if a bit crass) ways to look at it is that a cult is a potential religion given good accountants and an ability to survive whatever apocalypse they predict.
Like I said, no meaningful difference.
Quote from: Iormlund on February 10, 2012, 11:15:34 AM
Quote from: PDH on February 10, 2012, 08:44:28 AM
To be fair, the Westboro types are not really Baptists. Cultists is a better term.
You say that like there's any difference between a religion and a cult.
A bit of of an issue of scale. This is two families in a compound. Also he said "Baptists" not "religion". I wouldn't even qualify it as a church. More of a bible study group with an interesting way justifying their desire to tour the US.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 10, 2012, 04:12:07 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 10, 2012, 04:10:02 PM
What do you mean by "Olde Skool" cults?
Jonestown, Koresh, that Indian dude who fucked Meeuh Farrow.
Koresh didn't found the Branch Davidian cult. I have no idea who the Indian dude is.
Quote from: Iormlund on February 10, 2012, 04:16:17 PM
Like I said, no meaningful difference.
If you take the scale out far enough there never is.
Quote from: Iormlund on February 10, 2012, 04:16:17 PM
Quote from: PDH on February 10, 2012, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on February 10, 2012, 02:32:27 PM
While mainstream religions are obviously not centered in certain figures like Jesus, Buddha or Mohammed. My bad.
That is the institutionalization Yippee talked about. One of the easier (if a bit crass) ways to look at it is that a cult is a potential religion given good accountants and an ability to survive whatever apocalypse they predict.
Like I said, no meaningful difference.
I suppose, if you abstract it to the point where there's no meaningful difference between any kind of human endeavour.