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Title: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Martinus on January 26, 2012, 09:19:35 AM
I'm not talking about people but symbols. Like the nazi swastika or the can of Campbell soup from Warhol paintings. What is the most unexpected icon that paved its way into mass popculture awareness of the last decade?

To me it's the Guy Fawkes's mask from "V for Vendetta". It's nearly ubiquituous (today Polish opposition party members wore it in a Polish Parliament - of all places  :lol: - to protest against Poland signing ACTA - an international treaty introducing similar measures as SOPA) and like any good popculture icons, it seems to be used by people who are apparently completely unaware of its origins or context.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: The Brain on January 26, 2012, 09:22:04 AM
Never encountered the mask.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on January 26, 2012, 09:38:28 AM
That mass murdering commie Che guy's shirt graces the t-shirts of dirtbags everywhere.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Grey Fox on January 26, 2012, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 26, 2012, 09:38:28 AM
That mass murdering commie Che guy's shirt graces the t-shirts of dirtbags everywhere.

They are not dirtbags, they are Cubans & he's an hero to them.

Seriously, they peedle you his face on fucking everything at every corner. It's annoying at best.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Josephus on January 26, 2012, 09:45:20 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 26, 2012, 09:38:28 AM
That mass murdering commie Che guy's shirt graces the t-shirts of dirtbags everywhere.

The last decade? That's been around for a while.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Razgovory on January 26, 2012, 09:48:17 AM
Don't see it much in the US.  Did see it in Euroland.  Some of the stuff that is popular on the net has found a life outside the computers.  Which I find weird.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Martinus on January 26, 2012, 09:54:52 AM
Quote from: Josephus on January 26, 2012, 09:45:20 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 26, 2012, 09:38:28 AM
That mass murdering commie Che guy's shirt graces the t-shirts of dirtbags everywhere.

The last decade? That's been around for a while.

What he said. In fact I think it's not as popular anymore like it used in the 90s.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Monoriu on January 26, 2012, 10:31:02 AM
Apple and everything associated with it.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: DGuller on January 26, 2012, 11:33:16 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on January 26, 2012, 10:31:02 AM
Apple and everything associated with it.
How original.  :rolleyes:  I was going to say Apple myself.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Brazen on January 26, 2012, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: DGuller on January 26, 2012, 11:33:16 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on January 26, 2012, 10:31:02 AM
Apple and everything associated with it.
How original.  :rolleyes:  I was going to say Apple myself.
That's not really unexpected. The Linux penguin, however, is. Just saw a guy with it on a t-shirt.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Brazen on January 26, 2012, 11:53:14 AM
I would put forward particle physicist Prof Brian Cox as most unexpected pop-culture icon of the last decade. Once the keyboard player in a 90s pop group whose one-hit-wonder song was held responsible  for Labour's last general election win, he has become far more famous as a popular TV physicist. 
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.guim.co.uk%2Fsys-images%2FGuardian%2FPix%2Fpictures%2F2011%2F3%2F16%2F1300289184191%2FBrian-Cox-in-Wonders-of-t-007.jpg&hash=2edbaa71213b1ef6e1743335b3139c7d9207c988)

Here's just one of the t-shirts you can get:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.8ball.co.uk%2Ftshirts%2Fbriancoxtshirt-melovecox_1_118836_brown_l.jpg&hash=e5d66857da2a6d2bbe079cf583e255448fa9569b)
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Admiral Yi on January 26, 2012, 11:58:28 AM
That's a dude??
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Brazen on January 26, 2012, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 26, 2012, 11:58:28 AM
That's a dude??
Yeah, ain't he purdy?

Just read back and saw "no people". Ah well, it gave me free rein to Google Cox pictures :P
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: garbon on January 26, 2012, 12:12:47 PM
I only know of Marti's first thing as something that actually happened in the past decade. The others either started earlier or I've never heard of.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Gups on January 26, 2012, 12:47:57 PM
Quote from: Brazen on January 26, 2012, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 26, 2012, 11:58:28 AM
That's a dude??
Yeah, ain't he purdy?

Just read back and saw "no people". Ah well, it gave me free rein to Google Cox pictures :P

You're a wife of Brian, would have guessed it...

I think Labour probably lost votes in 97 thanks to that bloody awful song.

Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: HVC on January 26, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 26, 2012, 11:58:28 AM
That's a dude??
i too thought he looked like an angry lesbian.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Admiral Yi on January 26, 2012, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: HVC on January 26, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
i too thought he looked like an angry lesbian.

I thought he was a mousy soccer mom.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: mongers on January 26, 2012, 02:54:23 PM
Quote from: Gups on January 26, 2012, 12:47:57 PM
Quote from: Brazen on January 26, 2012, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 26, 2012, 11:58:28 AM
That's a dude??
Yeah, ain't he purdy?

Just read back and saw "no people". Ah well, it gave me free rein to Google Cox pictures :P

You're a wife of Brian, would have guessed it...

I think Labour probably lost votes in 97 thanks to that bloody awful song.

"How can you say that, it's the most aammazzing, fantasssticc...

[stage direction -  packs bag, hails a taxi, arrives at airport, pays cab driver, walks into terminal, shot of him pulling his luggage, long shot of walking with luggage, arrives at check-in, acknowledges other travellers, check-in girls swoon, baggage weighed, shot of walking to VIP lounge, pleasant conversation with earnest student types, coffee drunk, call to flight, suddenly ensconced in 1st class, reclining in luxury chair, smiles, shot from chase plane of airliner passing over clouds, close up of Brian sleeping, more shots from chase plane of sun rising over cloudscape, cut to ground camera team filming the airliner as it flies overhead on approach to airport runway, aircraft lands, cue tracking shot from 4x4 driving alongside airliner.  Plane slows, tension builds, atmospheric music bubbles from underneath. Track plane from multiple camera positions as it taxis towards bay.  Close up shot of aircraft wheels coming to a halt, more tension is built by the gradually building symphonic music.  Montage of different angles show the aircraft at halt. Music builds, airport stairs brought to plane door, slight pause, door opens, two neat stewardesses exit and stand either side of the door, Brian exits, stops, smiles, looks about airport/to middle distance, more stewardess swooning, Brian raises hand in salute to who knows what. He steps over the fainted cabin crew, purposely, but still slowly, walks down stairs, cut to a close shot of him passing at about 6ft from ground, slight pause, as first foot touches the tarmac, music begins to subside. Suddenly, cut to shot of helicopter in flight, jumpcut like fuck for 2 to 3 minutes as helicopter gets ever nearer, music builds again. Suddenly/eventually the unmarked helicopter lands, close in shot of pilot giving the thumps up. Cut to shot of Brian smiling, slightly but firmly smiling. (in background medics arrive, race up aircraft steps to revive cabin crew) Shot of helicopter rotors slowing, light twiddly music, rotors stops, Brian pauses, then takes a tentative step, close up of feet, more steps, further steps, pull out to show Brian arriving at open helicopter door, pilot thumbs up, Brian smiles ( or maybe it's a smirk ?) pause to look back at airport, then enters helicopter. Shot of door closing, rotors begin to spin up, wider shot of helicopter in airport surround. Sound of helicopter engines ramped up, music mixed out, shot of Brian smiling settling into seat, cut to shot of helicopter leaving the ground, pan up as it takes to the air, still quite a close cropped shot.  Then cut to shot from chase helicopter, showing Brian's helicopter majestically rising above airport, helicopter banks over suburbs and heads towards open country, inside cabin Brian getting comfortable and putting on flight headset and mike. Aerial shot of helicopter flying off towards horizon. Cut to shot from 2nd chase helicopter as Brian's flies fast towards it, then swoops under it and track to it flying again towards horizon, sound of engines reduced, slight tingly hippy-shit music brought up (couldn't afford Pink Floyd), shot of inside helicopter, Brian smiles, pilot give thumbs up, music builds, Brian adjusts headset, looks about him, shot from inside cabin showing outside view, cut back to Brian, smiling slightly less, opens mouth, music just audible ]

.... song. "

[Fade to black]



Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Josquius on January 26, 2012, 06:49:38 PM
Agreed on the v for vendetta mask, that is just weird. Lets all dress like a religious extremist to protest against fascism, woo!

The my little pony thing is something which really freaks me out. I just don't get it at all. A semi-popular 80s cartoon for little girls is now liked by a bunch of guys for some reason?
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Warspite on January 26, 2012, 07:01:27 PM
mongers :lmfao:
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: mongers on January 26, 2012, 07:05:34 PM
Quote from: Tyr on January 26, 2012, 06:49:38 PM
Agreed on the v for vendetta mask, that is just weird. Lets all dress like a religious extremist to protest against fascism, woo!


No I think you'll find they're using the Moore and Lloyd creation as a symbol of anarchists fighting a fascist state; I think you can argue that this cultural motif now far exceeds the original element of a mask that looks like a representation of Guy Fawkes.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Siege on January 26, 2012, 08:57:30 PM
The Master Chief, of course.
Greatest pop icon of the last decade.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.gamefreaks.co.nz%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F12%2Fhalo_games_2-wallpaper-2800x1050.jpg&hash=657576d1008247930d231fd1c4ace7f9451de217)
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Razgovory on January 26, 2012, 09:23:36 PM
Huh.  I guess those guys don't recognize that you need an atmosphere for a parachute to work.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Martinus on January 27, 2012, 02:25:14 AM
Quote from: Tyr on January 26, 2012, 06:49:38 PM
Agreed on the v for vendetta mask, that is just weird. Lets all dress like a religious extremist to protest against fascism, woo!


You are clearly one of these people who don't get it, aren't you? "OMG swastika is an ancient solar symbol, it has nothing to do with nazis".  :rolleyes:
Symbols change meaning. Film at 11.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Martinus on January 27, 2012, 02:27:37 AM
Quote from: mongers on January 26, 2012, 07:05:34 PM
Quote from: Tyr on January 26, 2012, 06:49:38 PM
Agreed on the v for vendetta mask, that is just weird. Lets all dress like a religious extremist to protest against fascism, woo!


No I think you'll find they're using the Moore and Lloyd creation as a symbol of anarchists fighting a fascist state; I think you can argue that this cultural motif now far exceeds the original element of a mask that looks like a representation of Guy Fawkes.

Yup. Although I still found it somewhat ironic (but in a good way) when Polish opposition MPs used it yesterday to protect against the signing of ACTA by the Polish government. I mean, both Fawkes and V kinda were about blowing up their symbolic workplace. :P

I loved some clueless Polish journo however who went "So, uhm, why are you wearing Joker masks?" :bleeding:
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 27, 2012, 03:26:31 AM
 :lol:

Not all Poles can be as hip as you.
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: szmik on January 28, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
Me living under the rock would have to know it to count.  :D

Which would leave Che and Apple, but both are 90s.  <_<

"Yes, we can" is the winner for me, even if it's not an icon per se.

Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Barrister on January 28, 2012, 03:10:54 PM
Quote from: szmik on January 28, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
Me living under the rock would have to know it to count.  :D

Which would leave Che and Apple, but both are 90s.  <_<

"Yes, we can" is the winner for me, even if it's not an icon per se.

The Apple logo goes back to the 70s, and was popularized in the 80s. :contract:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fedibleapple.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F04%2Fapple_rainbow_logo.jpeg&hash=cba030a3a86799ee08fd371c5b39d7a9dfa374f5)
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: szmik on January 28, 2012, 05:07:34 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 28, 2012, 03:10:54 PM
Quote from: szmik on January 28, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
Me living under the rock would have to know it to count.  :D

Which would leave Che and Apple, but both are 90s.  <_<

"Yes, we can" is the winner for me, even if it's not an icon per se.

The Apple logo goes back to the 70s, and was popularized in the 80s. :contract:

not behind Iron Curtain  :secret: 80s around here = Atari, Commodore, ZX Spectrum, Amiga
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 29, 2012, 12:37:09 PM
Leave it to Poles to use the props of a shitty, second-rate superhero flick as political symbolism.  What, Ben Affleck's Daredevil suit wasn't available?
Title: Re: The most unexpected popculture icon of the last decade?
Post by: Neil on January 29, 2012, 02:11:23 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 28, 2012, 03:10:54 PM
Quote from: szmik on January 28, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
Me living under the rock would have to know it to count.  :D

Which would leave Che and Apple, but both are 90s.  <_<

"Yes, we can" is the winner for me, even if it's not an icon per se.
The Apple logo goes back to the 70s, and was popularized in the 80s. :contract:
But it didn't become a tribal totem until the post-2000 hipster douchebag boom.