It's fucking annoying that when you buy a plane ticket and then want someone else to use it, you cannot do that. You have to return the ticket (and they pay you back only a small part of the price) and the other person has to buy it again at a full price.
Fuck that shit. It's a fucking violation of consumer rights. :mad:
Quote from: Martinus on October 18, 2011, 05:30:28 AM
It's fucking annoying that when you buy a plane ticket and then want someone else to use it, you cannot do that. You have to return the ticket (and they pay you back only a small part of the price) and the other person has to buy it again at a full price.
Fuck that shit. It's a fucking violation of consumer rights. :mad:
Buy refundable tickets.
Yep, airline tickets are basically a contract with many terms and conditions that you will travel a certain route at a certain time, they are not a permit for the bearer to travel. Only the full-price ones are transferable or fully refundable, which can cost more than buying two.
Just give him the money directly FFS. Sugar daddying doesn't have to be complicated.
I hate Ryanair.
I'm increasingly miffed by the trend to charge extra for emergency exit seats. For me the legroom isn't a luxury, and £30 each way for early seat booking is a big wodge of cash. If you're going to charge me extra for being tall, then it's only fair I also get a discount for being a very light traveller.
The problem with exit row seats is that you don't have an entertainment system in front of you. My legs are on the long side as well, but I actually prefer angling my legs a little rather than be bored out of my mind. Maybe our tall posters with an ampler posterior don't have that option.
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2011, 10:48:26 AM
The problem with exit row seats is that you don't have an entertainment system in front of you.
You can still see the map right? :mellow:
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 18, 2011, 10:51:40 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2011, 10:48:26 AM
The problem with exit row seats is that you don't have an entertainment system in front of you.
You can still see the map right? :mellow:
I can, if I bring a paper map with me.
I don't even like exit row seats. I like keeping my bag down with me.
Quote from: Martinus on October 18, 2011, 05:30:28 AM
It's fucking annoying that when you buy a plane ticket and then want someone else to use it, you cannot do that. You have to return the ticket (and they pay you back only a small part of the price) and the other person has to buy it again at a full price.
Fuck that shit. It's a fucking violation of consumer rights. :mad:
As a lawyer, you should know to read the fineprint. It's not like there aren't booking classes that allow you to get the ticket refunded.
Quote from: garbon on October 18, 2011, 10:53:30 AM
I don't even like exit row seats. I like keeping my bag down with me.
Yeah, that's another big inconvenience. Yet another one is that you're sitting in front of all the aisle traffic, rather than being covered by seats in front of you.
Quote from: Zanza on October 18, 2011, 10:56:07 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 18, 2011, 05:30:28 AM
It's fucking annoying that when you buy a plane ticket and then want someone else to use it, you cannot do that. You have to return the ticket (and they pay you back only a small part of the price) and the other person has to buy it again at a full price.
Fuck that shit. It's a fucking violation of consumer rights. :mad:
As a lawyer, you should know to read the fineprint. It's not like there aren't booking classes that allow you to get the ticket refunded.
Of course, there are nicer airlines like SW that allow you to get a credit that you can then apply to someone else's trip. My family did it all the time.
Quote from: garbon on October 18, 2011, 10:53:30 AM
I don't even like exit row seats. I like keeping my bag down with me.
You're allowed to have your bag down with you after takeoff but before landing, aren't you?
Quote from: Warspite on October 18, 2011, 11:12:13 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 18, 2011, 10:53:30 AM
I don't even like exit row seats. I like keeping my bag down with me.
You're allowed to have your bag down with you after takeoff but before landing, aren't you?
I think so. Although I believe t But now with the charges - there's no chance I'll ever be in an exit row.
edit: Actually I don't know as I know there are often big on having the walkways clear - especially when the fasten seat belt sign is on.
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2011, 10:48:26 AM
The problem with exit row seats is that you don't have an entertainment system in front of you. My legs are on the long side as well, but I actually prefer angling my legs a little rather than be bored out of my mind. Maybe our tall posters with an ampler posterior don't have that option.
The airplane often has teeny-tiny screens above every other row, and somewhat larger screens on the back walls. Sitting in an exit row, I could see the larger screen just fine, and happily watched a movie. While those leg-anglers behind me suffered. :P
Quote from: Malthus on October 18, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2011, 10:48:26 AM
The problem with exit row seats is that you don't have an entertainment system in front of you. My legs are on the long side as well, but I actually prefer angling my legs a little rather than be bored out of my mind. Maybe our tall posters with an ampler posterior don't have that option.
The airplane often has teeny-tiny screens above every other row, and somewhat larger screens on the back walls. Sitting in an exit row, I could see the larger screen just fine, and happily watched a movie. While those leg-anglers behind me suffered. :P
You don't sit in business class? With your money? ;)
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 02:01:05 PM
You don't sit in business class? With your money? ;)
I only pay twice as much for a flight if it is a disbursement. :P
Quote from: Malthus on October 18, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2011, 10:48:26 AM
The problem with exit row seats is that you don't have an entertainment system in front of you. My legs are on the long side as well, but I actually prefer angling my legs a little rather than be bored out of my mind. Maybe our tall posters with an ampler posterior don't have that option.
The airplane often has teeny-tiny screens above every other row, and somewhat larger screens on the back walls. Sitting in an exit row, I could see the larger screen just fine, and happily watched a movie. While those leg-anglers behind me suffered. :P
I always fly in the exit row - gives more room than business class. the movie thing is solved by the fact that most planes have the screen that folds up from the seat on an extendable arm. Its the only way to fly.
Quote from: Martinus on October 18, 2011, 05:30:28 AM
It's fucking annoying that when you buy a plane ticket and then want someone else to use it, you cannot do that. You have to return the ticket (and they pay you back only a small part of the price) and the other person has to buy it again at a full price.
Fuck that shit. It's a fucking violation of consumer rights. :mad:
You should hire a lawyer to advise you on contracts before you enter into them.
Quote from: Malthus on October 18, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2011, 10:48:26 AM
The problem with exit row seats is that you don't have an entertainment system in front of you. My legs are on the long side as well, but I actually prefer angling my legs a little rather than be bored out of my mind. Maybe our tall posters with an ampler posterior don't have that option.
The airplane often has teeny-tiny screens above every other row, and somewhat larger screens on the back walls. Sitting in an exit row, I could see the larger screen just fine, and happily watched a movie. While those leg-anglers behind me suffered. :P
I'm talking about those individualized entertainment systems. Maybe they didn't make it to Canada yet, like fixed rate mortgages? :unsure: Basically, they have on-demand TV, as well as some games to play.
The one time I flew on exit row, there was indeed a large screen in front of it, but I could not control it. What someone chose to show is what I saw.
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2011, 02:32:45 PM
I'm talking about those individualized entertainment systems. Maybe they didn't make it to Canada yet,
You are being silly and you live in an underdeveloped nation that cannot afford proper airlines.
On the aircraft I frequent there is an individual entertainment system for each seat. They are located on the back of the seat immediately in front. However that does not work so well for exit seats since there is a considerable distance between the two seats. To solve that problem the exit seats have their entertainment system built in to a screen that extend out form the exit seat itself allow for easy access and viewing.
No doubt if you have to fly economy class, then the exit row rules. But most people know this and the demand is high. You have to book very early to ensure you get that row and even then, some flights reserve them for old people or those with babies, toddlers.
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 02:45:24 PM
No doubt if you have to fly economy class, then the exit row rules. But most people know this and the demand is high. You have to book very early to ensure you get that row and even then, some flights reserve them for old people or those with babies, toddlers.
That is what all the short people think. Its pretty easy for me to get an exit seat...
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 02:45:24 PM
No doubt if you have to fly economy class, then the exit row rules. But most people know this and the demand is high. You have to book very early to ensure you get that row and even then, some flights reserve them for old people or those with babies, toddlers.
That's precisely what they don't do, given that people in the emergency row are required to carry out physical duties in the event of a crash landing. No babies, no elderly, no one with an arm in a sling.
My last few flights the exit rows are largely empty as people didn't want to pay more.
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 02:45:24 PM
You have to book very early to ensure you get that row and even then, some flights reserve them for old people or those with babies, toddlers.
Is that even legal? I thought that people sitting on exit row seats have to be physically able to assist in evacuation. At least that's the impression I got from the flight attendant's speech when I sat in one.
Quote from: Warspite on October 18, 2011, 02:49:15 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 02:45:24 PM
No doubt if you have to fly economy class, then the exit row rules. But most people know this and the demand is high. You have to book very early to ensure you get that row and even then, some flights reserve them for old people or those with babies, toddlers.
That's precisely what they don't do, given that people in the emergency row are required to carry out physical duties in the event of a crash landing. No babies, no elderly, no one with an arm in a sling.
Oh, OK, yeah. I was thinking of that other good row, the bulkhead they call it.
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 02:55:55 PM
Quote from: Warspite on October 18, 2011, 02:49:15 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 02:45:24 PM
No doubt if you have to fly economy class, then the exit row rules. But most people know this and the demand is high. You have to book very early to ensure you get that row and even then, some flights reserve them for old people or those with babies, toddlers.
That's precisely what they don't do, given that people in the emergency row are required to carry out physical duties in the event of a crash landing. No babies, no elderly, no one with an arm in a sling.
Oh, OK, yeah. I was thinking of that other good row, the bulkhead they call it.
Yup. On the last plane I was on, it even had an attachement for a criblike arrangent on the bulkhead - always an ominous sight on an 8-hour flight. :D [Actually, the kid slepped most of the time and was pretty cute and non-loud the rest, so it was all good]
Goddamn, BA actually charge £50 if you want an emergency exit row seat. Looks like I'll just have to try to sweet talk the check-in attendant.
I miss the days when you could bri...tip the skycaps and not pay for your checked luggage, heavy or otherwise. :(
Odd, I dont recall paying more for an exit row seat.
Maybe Canadian airlines don't do it yet. I saw it on Delta and I think US Airways and United.
I didn't pay anything extra for them either. However, what I did have to do was wait until one day before the flight to transfer my seat to the exit row and beat out other people wanting to do likewise, because until then they were locked out (at least for the likes of me). :bleeding:
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2011, 04:36:22 PM
I didn't pay anything extra for them either. However, what I did have to do was wait until one day before the flight to transfer my seat to the exit row and beat out other people wanting to do likewise, because until then they were locked out (at least for the likes of me). :bleeding:
I dont generally have that problem. Generally, if I dont already have it booked, I present myself to the counter prior to the flight and politely request an exit row seat. The response I generally get as they look up, way up, is "my goodness yes you certainly do need an exit row seat!"
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 18, 2011, 04:40:57 PM
The response I generally get as they look up, way up
:hmm: Is this still about airlines?
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 18, 2011, 04:40:57 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2011, 04:36:22 PM
I didn't pay anything extra for them either. However, what I did have to do was wait until one day before the flight to transfer my seat to the exit row and beat out other people wanting to do likewise, because until then they were locked out (at least for the likes of me). :bleeding:
I dont generally have that problem. Generally, if I dont already have it booked, I present myself to the counter prior to the flight and politely request an exit row seat. The response I generally get as they look up, way up, is "my goodness yes you certainly do need an exit row seat!"
You should pay extra...like fat people. :D
Quote from: Malthus on October 18, 2011, 02:59:42 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 02:55:55 PM
Quote from: Warspite on October 18, 2011, 02:49:15 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 02:45:24 PM
No doubt if you have to fly economy class, then the exit row rules. But most people know this and the demand is high. You have to book very early to ensure you get that row and even then, some flights reserve them for old people or those with babies, toddlers.
That's precisely what they don't do, given that people in the emergency row are required to carry out physical duties in the event of a crash landing. No babies, no elderly, no one with an arm in a sling.
Oh, OK, yeah. I was thinking of that other good row, the bulkhead they call it.
Yup. On the last plane I was on, it even had an attachement for a criblike arrangent on the bulkhead - always an ominous sight on an 8-hour flight. :D [Actually, the kid slepped most of the time and was pretty cute and non-loud the rest, so it was all good]
If you are on an 8 hour flight, you've got to find a way to get into business class. Granted--it is far too expensive to pay full freight personally--but you can usually get an upgrade for a reasonable number of airline miles from a not too expensive ticket if you sign up for the right frequent flyer program and plan ahead (if you don't travel for work, you can get them through a credit card). Having a flat bed means you can sleep well, which imo is worth 2 days of vacation roundtrip.
Quote from: DGuller on October 18, 2011, 02:54:27 PM
Is that even legal? I thought that people sitting on exit row seats have to be physically able to assist in evacuation. At least that's the impression I got from the flight attendant's speech when I sat in one.
Yes. This worked out well for my when I flew to Denver; this Filipino chick in the exit row didn't speak English and so the stewardess asked for volunteers to sit there instead of her. The guy sitting next to me volunteered, but she sat next to the guy in front of me (who had an empty seat next to him) instead of in my neighbor's seat, so I got a row to myself, which is pretty nice when you're in a CRJ-700... not exactly the roomiest airliner in the world.
One of my favorite memories when flying was with my aged father when he ended up in the exit row and they told him he had extra responsibilities, etc. The entire flight you would have thought he was about to go into combat. He refused all alcohol, paid super close attention to the safety presentation, and looked like he kept focused the entire flight on being ready to help people evacuate in an emergency.
Quote from: alfred russel on October 18, 2011, 08:14:16 PM
If you are on an 8 hour flight, you've got to find a way to get into business class. Granted--it is far too expensive to pay full freight personally--but you can usually get an upgrade for a reasonable number of airline miles from a not too expensive ticket if you sign up for the right frequent flyer program and plan ahead (if you don't travel for work, you can get them through a credit card). Having a flat bed means you can sleep well, which imo is worth 2 days of vacation roundtrip.
Word.
I've flown biz class for work a few times and it does make a world of difference. Best was last year flying back,economy, from Amsterdam on KLM when the flight was overbooked, so they upgraded me for free!!
I'll take a first class upgrade for free (and have done so maybe 3-4 times), but I'm too cheap to pay for one. I do agree that your experience is much better when you fly first class.
Note, first class and business class are not always the same thing. On big airlines like British Airways, for instance (which I once got to peek at but not stay in), First Class is like being king. Business class is more of an intermediary between the two, although several airlines have now dispensed with first class altogether.
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 09:35:28 PM
Note, first class and business class are not always the same thing. On big airlines like British Airways, for instance (which I once got to peek at but not stay in), First Class is like being king. Business class is more of an intermediary between the two, although several airlines have now dispensed with first class altogether.
It's true. First class and whatever they call Business class on Virgin are miles apart (from the peep I got into first class). That said Business class by another name is suitable enough after G&Ts and an ambien.
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 09:35:28 PM
Note, first class and business class are not always the same thing. On big airlines like British Airways, for instance (which I once got to peek at but not stay in), First Class is like being king. Business class is more of an intermediary between the two, although several airlines have now dispensed with first class altogether.
Well, there's a lot of short-haul flights these days, and there's no point in paying for first-class unless you're crossing an ocean or the Asian continent.
I once tried to get the exit row seats on Air France. Their response: "speak French? :rolleyes:" Passengers on exit rows need to assist in opening the doors in emergency.
The problem with exit rows is that the flight attendants always insist that absolutely nothing lies on the floor. Unlike regular seats where you can put bags etc in front. They are really worried about loose objects flying around. I suppose there must be a law suit somewhere on this.
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:18:21 PM
The problem with exit rows is that the flight attendants always insist that absolutely nothing lies on the floor. Unlike regular seats where you can put bags etc in front. They are really worried about loose objects flying around.
:huh:
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2011, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 18, 2011, 09:35:28 PM
Note, first class and business class are not always the same thing. On big airlines like British Airways, for instance (which I once got to peek at but not stay in), First Class is like being king. Business class is more of an intermediary between the two, although several airlines have now dispensed with first class altogether.
Well, there's a lot of short-haul flights these days, and there's no point in paying for first-class unless you're crossing an ocean or the Asian continent.
I think if you aren't getting a nights rest, economy is just fine.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 18, 2011, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:18:21 PM
The problem with exit rows is that the flight attendants always insist that absolutely nothing lies on the floor. Unlike regular seats where you can put bags etc in front. They are really worried about loose objects flying around.
:huh:
I find it annoying to have to retreive my stuff from the overhead compartments. Especially when I don't have the aisle seats.
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 18, 2011, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:18:21 PM
The problem with exit rows is that the flight attendants always insist that absolutely nothing lies on the floor. Unlike regular seats where you can put bags etc in front. They are really worried about loose objects flying around.
:huh:
I find it annoying to have to retreive my stuff from the overhead compartments. Especially when I don't have the aisle seats.
Eek, Mono and I agreed. :P
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 18, 2011, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:18:21 PM
The problem with exit rows is that the flight attendants always insist that absolutely nothing lies on the floor. Unlike regular seats where you can put bags etc in front. They are really worried about loose objects flying around.
:huh:
I find it annoying to have to retreive my stuff from the overhead compartments. Especially when I don't have the aisle seats.
Do you always fly business class? If not, where do you fit your legs?
Quote from: alfred russel on October 18, 2011, 10:24:29 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 18, 2011, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:18:21 PM
The problem with exit rows is that the flight attendants always insist that absolutely nothing lies on the floor. Unlike regular seats where you can put bags etc in front. They are really worried about loose objects flying around.
:huh:
I find it annoying to have to retreive my stuff from the overhead compartments. Especially when I don't have the aisle seats.
Do you always fly business class? If not, where do you fit your legs?
No, and I am short :blush:
I miss the days when, as soon as the plane had landed, everybody would get up and get their luggages while the plane was still taxiing to the terminal. These days the attendants seem ready to punch anybody who does this. Again, someone must've been hit by a loose object somewhere, and lawsuits followed.
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:26:01 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 18, 2011, 10:24:29 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 18, 2011, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:18:21 PM
The problem with exit rows is that the flight attendants always insist that absolutely nothing lies on the floor. Unlike regular seats where you can put bags etc in front. They are really worried about loose objects flying around.
:huh:
I find it annoying to have to retreive my stuff from the overhead compartments. Especially when I don't have the aisle seats.
Do you always fly business class? If not, where do you fit your legs?
No, and I am short :blush:
You are filthy rich, of course you fly business class. It's okay. :hug:
What Berkut said in the other thread was spot on, and deserves repeating...
QuoteAmerican consumers have nobody but themselves to blame when it comes to airline service.
We buy airline tickets by going online, using a price comparison engine, and buying the cheapest possible seat. Since that is how 95% of the tickets are sold, the airlines are forced to cut their costs to the bare minimum in order to compete on price only, since price only is all we make decisions on...
If you want food, legroom, and better than surly service, pay double for business class.
I am 6' 6", and I can manage to survive in regular economy class seats (even on a flight from Seattle to Japan). But I'll pay extra for the emergency row or a slight upgrade that some airlines have, like Frontier.
But ideally, a more "middle class" option would be nicer, not having to pay the ridiculous premium upgrade to first/business class.
Of course, better more comfortable seating overall would be nicer.
But as Berkut said, we may all gripe about cattle-car conditions on airlines, but we'll never accept paying higher prices. An airline that tries to charge a higher price for even somewhat better seating will never fly (hah), because while people gripe, they really don't care enough.
Quote from: Habsburg on October 18, 2011, 11:12:09 PM
You are filthy rich, of course you fly business class. It's okay. :hug:
Mono sharing a ride with the masses? He's not that cheap, if his plane's in the shop he'll charter one.
Quote from: Habsburg on October 18, 2011, 11:12:09 PM
You are filthy rich, of course you fly business class. It's okay. :hug:
I'd love to live in your fantasyland, Habs :hug:
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Quote from: Habsburg on October 18, 2011, 11:12:09 PM
You are filthy rich, of course you fly business class. It's okay. :hug:
Mono sharing a ride with the masses? He's not that cheap, if his plane's in the shop he'll charter one.
I don't think Mono is very wealthy. He's in civil service. He's greedy, but he'll end up dying poor.
I flew Etihad business class once. It had fully reclining seats; for the first time in my life I slept well on a plane.
QuoteBut as Berkut said, we may all gripe about cattle-car conditions on airlines, but we'll never accept paying higher prices. An airline that tries to charge a higher price for even somewhat better seating will never fly (hah), because while people gripe, they really don't care enough.
I think it's different for long haul. At least what I am objecting to isn't a pleasurable level of comfort, but a basic minimum. I'm 6' 5" but have very long legs, even for my height; they really do get jammed into the seat in front even when I sit up properly.
Plus with the risk of blood clots and DVT when seats are too crammed, there's non-trivial health risk for such passengers.
I really don't think it's too much to ask that airlines keep hold of certain seats for their taller customers, surely?
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 19, 2011, 02:03:09 AM
What Berkut said in the other thread was spot on, and deserves repeating...
QuoteAmerican consumers have nobody but themselves to blame when it comes to airline service.
We buy airline tickets by going online, using a price comparison engine, and buying the cheapest possible seat. Since that is how 95% of the tickets are sold, the airlines are forced to cut their costs to the bare minimum in order to compete on price only, since price only is all we make decisions on...
If you want food, legroom, and better than surly service, pay double for business class.
I am 6' 6", and I can manage to survive in regular economy class seats (even on a flight from Seattle to Japan). But I'll pay extra for the emergency row or a slight upgrade that some airlines have, like Frontier.
But ideally, a more "middle class" option would be nicer, not having to pay the ridiculous premium upgrade to first/business class.
Of course, better more comfortable seating overall would be nicer.
But as Berkut said, we may all gripe about cattle-car conditions on airlines, but we'll never accept paying higher prices. An airline that tries to charge a higher price for even somewhat better seating will never fly (hah), because while people gripe, they really don't care enough.
Yeah, I kind of agree with you and Berkut. Airlines barely make profit as it is, (often they don't), I don't think you can expect any more from them on economy class flights with out nationalizing the industry.
Well, there's no reason the flight attendant has to be surly. Though they aren't paid that much, and neither are pilots. Those are some serious problems actually.
Quote from: Warspite on October 19, 2011, 06:40:28 AM
I really don't think it's too much to ask that airlines keep hold of certain seats for their taller customers, surely?
Do I get free upgrades to business class just because I'm fat :P
Quote from: Monoriu on October 19, 2011, 08:31:23 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 19, 2011, 06:40:28 AM
I really don't think it's too much to ask that airlines keep hold of certain seats for their taller customers, surely?
Do I get free upgrades to business class just because I'm fat :P
Mono, there is no such thing as fat when it comes to planes. There are just "long legs".
Quote from: Monoriu on October 19, 2011, 08:31:23 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 19, 2011, 06:40:28 AM
I really don't think it's too much to ask that airlines keep hold of certain seats for their taller customers, surely?
Do I get free upgrades to business class just because I'm fat :P
Eat less. :P
Quote from: Monoriu on October 19, 2011, 08:31:23 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 19, 2011, 06:40:28 AM
I really don't think it's too much to ask that airlines keep hold of certain seats for their taller customers, surely?
Do I get free upgrades to business class just because I'm fat :P
Tallness is seen as positive quality whereas obesity...
Quote from: garbon on October 19, 2011, 08:47:25 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 19, 2011, 08:31:23 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 19, 2011, 06:40:28 AM
I really don't think it's too much to ask that airlines keep hold of certain seats for their taller customers, surely?
Do I get free upgrades to business class just because I'm fat :P
Tallness is seen as positive quality whereas obesity...
And to be fair, even a fairly rotund person of average height can still move their legs in an economy seat.
Am debating whether to turn up for my flight in a smart suit on Friday in order to be SFU. :hmm:
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 18, 2011, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2011, 10:18:21 PM
The problem with exit rows is that the flight attendants always insist that absolutely nothing lies on the floor. Unlike regular seats where you can put bags etc in front. They are really worried about loose objects flying around.
:huh:
I find it annoying to have to retreive my stuff from the overhead compartments. Especially when I don't have the aisle seats.
When you sit in an exit seat you can still put your things under the seat in front of you. Its just that the seat in front of you is a very long way away - which is the whole point. At least that is the way it is on Air Canada and WestJet.
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 19, 2011, 02:03:09 AM
I am 6' 6", and I can manage to survive in regular economy class seats (even on a flight from Seattle to Japan). But I'll pay extra for the emergency row or a slight upgrade that some airlines have, like Frontier.
You are just a tad shorter then me. I have survived, barely, in an economy seat from Vancouver to Frankfurt - with a lot of strolls along the length of the aircraft. At one point one of the crew invited me to sit in the crew area in the back to stretch out for a while.
Quote from: garbon on October 19, 2011, 08:47:25 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 19, 2011, 08:31:23 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 19, 2011, 06:40:28 AM
I really don't think it's too much to ask that airlines keep hold of certain seats for their taller customers, surely?
Do I get free upgrades to business class just because I'm fat :P
Tallness is seen as positive quality whereas obesity...
That is because tallness is objectively better in every way.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:43:16 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 19, 2011, 02:03:09 AM
I am 6' 6", and I can manage to survive in regular economy class seats (even on a flight from Seattle to Japan). But I'll pay extra for the emergency row or a slight upgrade that some airlines have, like Frontier.
You are just a tad shorter then me. I have survived, barely, in an economy seat from Vancouver to Frankfurt - with a lot of strolls along the length of the aircraft. At one point one of the crew invited me to sit in the crew area in the back to stretch out for a while.
stewardess (or steward, if he floated that way :D ) was hitting on you :contract: :P
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 19, 2011, 08:47:25 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 19, 2011, 08:31:23 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 19, 2011, 06:40:28 AM
I really don't think it's too much to ask that airlines keep hold of certain seats for their taller customers, surely?
Do I get free upgrades to business class just because I'm fat :P
Tallness is seen as positive quality whereas obesity...
That is because tallness is objectively better in every way.
I don't think that means much. Obesity doesn't really have much going for it.
Quote from: HVC on October 19, 2011, 09:53:29 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:43:16 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 19, 2011, 02:03:09 AM
I am 6' 6", and I can manage to survive in regular economy class seats (even on a flight from Seattle to Japan). But I'll pay extra for the emergency row or a slight upgrade that some airlines have, like Frontier.
You are just a tad shorter then me. I have survived, barely, in an economy seat from Vancouver to Frankfurt - with a lot of strolls along the length of the aircraft. At one point one of the crew invited me to sit in the crew area in the back to stretch out for a while.
stewardess was hitting on you :contract: :P
:huh: :( :Embarrass:
Quote from: garbon on October 19, 2011, 09:55:57 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 19, 2011, 08:47:25 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 19, 2011, 08:31:23 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 19, 2011, 06:40:28 AM
I really don't think it's too much to ask that airlines keep hold of certain seats for their taller customers, surely?
Do I get free upgrades to business class just because I'm fat :P
Tallness is seen as positive quality whereas obesity...
That is because tallness is objectively better in every way.
I don't think that means much. Obesity doesn't really have much going for it.
No I mean better than being short in every way. Of course it is better than being fat.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:57:09 AM
No I mean better than being short in every way. Of course it is better than being fat.
Doubtful. I have no issue with cramped airlines seats for one glaring one. :contract: :D
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:56:20 AM
:huh: :( :Embarrass:
:lol: Strutting your stuff up and down the aisle was just too much for her. it's ok, teach your giant sons so they too don't miss the opertunity :D
Quote from: garbon on October 19, 2011, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:57:09 AM
No I mean better than being short in every way. Of course it is better than being fat.
Doubtful. I have no issue with cramped airlines seats for one glaring one. :contract: :D
Neither do I.... Have you been paying no attention to this thread.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 10:02:42 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 19, 2011, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:57:09 AM
No I mean better than being short in every way. Of course it is better than being fat.
Doubtful. I have no issue with cramped airlines seats for one glaring one. :contract: :D
Neither do I.... Have you been paying no attention to this thread.
I have. I've been noticing that tall people need specific seats on planes so as to feel comfortable. And here in America that is increasingly coming at additional cost. Not advantages as far as I can tell. :P
Quote from: garbon on October 19, 2011, 10:05:41 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 10:02:42 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 19, 2011, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:57:09 AM
No I mean better than being short in every way. Of course it is better than being fat.
Doubtful. I have no issue with cramped airlines seats for one glaring one. :contract: :D
Neither do I.... Have you been paying no attention to this thread.
I have. I've been noticing that tall people need specific seats on planes so as to feel comfortable. And here in America that is increasingly coming at additional cost. Not advantages as far as I can tell. :P
Yeah, for normal tall folks, but CC is enough of a freak that the airlines pay *him* to fly, just to attract the publicity. :P
Quote from: Malthus on October 19, 2011, 10:44:35 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 19, 2011, 10:05:41 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 10:02:42 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 19, 2011, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:57:09 AM
No I mean better than being short in every way. Of course it is better than being fat.
Doubtful. I have no issue with cramped airlines seats for one glaring one. :contract: :D
Neither do I.... Have you been paying no attention to this thread.
I have. I've been noticing that tall people need specific seats on planes so as to feel comfortable. And here in America that is increasingly coming at additional cost. Not advantages as far as I can tell. :P
Yeah, for normal tall folks, but CC is enough of a freak that the airlines pay *him* to fly, just to attract the publicity. :P
Gotcha. :D
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:57:09 AM
No I mean better than being short in every way. Of course it is better than being fat.
6'1" to 6'3" is optimal IMO but I'd rather be 5"11 than 6'6".
Quote from: Gups on October 19, 2011, 10:48:02 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:57:09 AM
No I mean better than being short in every way. Of course it is better than being fat.
6'1" to 6'3" is optimal IMO but I'd rather be 5"11 than 6'6".
It's possible to buy off the rack clothing at 5' 11". Not really at 6' 6" unless you're built like a tank.
Quote from: Gups on October 19, 2011, 10:48:02 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:57:09 AM
No I mean better than being short in every way. Of course it is better than being fat.
6'1" to 6'3" is optimal IMO but I'd rather be 5"11 than 6'6".
:yes:
Quote from: Warspite on October 19, 2011, 11:58:35 AM
It's possible to buy off the rack clothing at 5' 11". Not really at 6' 6" unless you're built like a tank.
Foruntately the stores around here dont really have to stock for the tall and rotund. I have no problems buying off the rack.
Quote from: Gups on October 19, 2011, 10:48:02 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:57:09 AM
No I mean better than being short in every way. Of course it is better than being fat.
6'1" to 6'3" is optimal IMO but I'd rather be 5"11 than 6'6".
Sucks to be average I would think.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 09:44:05 AM
That is because tallness is objectively better in every way.
I suppose, if you're an NBA player.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 01:32:45 PM
Sucks to be average I would think.
That's unhealthy thinking.
Quote from: Neil on October 19, 2011, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 01:32:45 PM
Sucks to be average I would think.
That's unhealthy thinking.
Yes, if you are average it would be a problem to come to the full realization of what the means.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 19, 2011, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 01:32:45 PM
Sucks to be average I would think.
That's unhealthy thinking.
Yes, if you are average it would be a problem to come to the full realization of what the means.
No. It's unhealthy for average people not to know their place.
Quote from: Neil on October 19, 2011, 03:00:13 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 19, 2011, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 01:32:45 PM
Sucks to be average I would think.
That's unhealthy thinking.
Yes, if you are average it would be a problem to come to the full realization of what the means.
No. It's unhealthy for average people not to know their place.
That is quite a dilemma for average people.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 03:41:37 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 19, 2011, 03:00:13 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 19, 2011, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 19, 2011, 01:32:45 PM
Sucks to be average I would think.
That's unhealthy thinking.
Yes, if you are average it would be a problem to come to the full realization of what the means.
No. It's unhealthy for average people not to know their place.
That is quite a dilemma for average people.
Not really, because so few of them do these days.
I think it's unhealthy to not crop quotes.
Also to obsess about height which is pretty irrelevant in today's world.
Quote from: Maximus on October 20, 2011, 08:25:45 AM
Also to obsess about height which is pretty irrelevant in today's world.
I agree. There is no question of the benefits.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 20, 2011, 10:00:11 AM
Quote from: Maximus on October 20, 2011, 08:25:45 AM
Also to obsess about height which is pretty irrelevant in today's world.
I agree. There is no question of the benefits.
Share your height, plz
:(
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 20, 2011, 10:02:40 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 20, 2011, 10:00:11 AM
Quote from: Maximus on October 20, 2011, 08:25:45 AM
Also to obsess about height which is pretty irrelevant in today's world.
I agree. There is no question of the benefits.
Share your height, plz
:(
I did. My boys have it. Which is actually a bit disconcerting now that my 14 year old is getting close to my height. I am not used to having decently sized people around me.
I hate your life.
I think 6'2" with a slim ass is the optimum configuration. You're tall enough to be taller than most people, but you can still fit comfortably in anything that's not a WW2 submarine.
Quote from: DGuller on October 20, 2011, 10:10:05 AM
I think 6'2" with a slim ass is the optimum configuration. You're tall enough to be taller than most people, but you can still fit comfortably in anything that's not a WW2 submarine.
We don't really want to hear about your gay fantasies.
Quote from: garbon on October 20, 2011, 10:11:44 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 20, 2011, 10:10:05 AM
I think 6'2" with a slim ass is the optimum configuration. You're tall enough to be taller than most people, but you can still fit comfortably in anything that's not a WW2 submarine.
We don't really want to hear about your gay fantasies.
Grallon does.
Quote from: DGuller on October 20, 2011, 10:10:05 AM
I think 6'2" with a slim ass is the optimum configuration. You're tall enough to be taller than most people, but you can still fit comfortably in anything that's not a WW2 submarine.
Not if you don't have a slim waist to go with it, because then your pants fall down frequently.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 20, 2011, 10:25:13 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 20, 2011, 10:11:44 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 20, 2011, 10:10:05 AM
I think 6'2" with a slim ass is the optimum configuration. You're tall enough to be taller than most people, but you can still fit comfortably in anything that's not a WW2 submarine.
We don't really want to hear about your gay fantasies.
Grallon does.
Puh-leeze. DGuller is way too old.
The solution to any trans-Atlantic flying:
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Air France's new Premium Economy. just $1644 return Seattle-Paris w/taxes! :mmm: :frog:
Don't Air France fall out of the skies?
If God wanted man to fly, He would have given him wings. :yes:
I can't be arsed to hear Martinus whine, but for what is worth, I try to fly Lufthansa whenever possible. Simply the best.
If Lufthansa is not avaliable, I try British Airways. Sorta Decent.
Sometimes, for short flights inside the Iberian Peninsula I actually have to use the Portuguese Airlines (TAP) or one of its subsidiaries. I only do it if I don't have any other choice :yuk:
To put it mildy: flying in those is often a VERY good reenactment of what was like to fly in a WW2 bomber.
(And I'm not even exaggerating in some cases)
It is worse when Lufthansa - because it is part of Star Alliance - actually changes my seat from one of its fligts to one of TAP's... :(
Quote from: DGuller on October 20, 2011, 10:10:05 AM
I think 6'2" with a slim ass is the optimum configuration. You're tall enough to be taller than most people, but you can still fit comfortably in anything that's not a WW2 submarine.
:cool:
Quote from: Neil on October 20, 2011, 04:55:37 PM
Don't Air France fall out of the skies?
Not all the time. Sometimes they cross the Atlantic with their passengers alive.
Quote from: Martim Silva on October 20, 2011, 05:54:43 PM
I try to fly Lufthansa whenever possible. Simply the best.
:huh:
Better than all the rest?
I have given up airlines, next time I visit the New World I will take the Queen Mary (c. 2020 assuming the West does not collapse in the meantime).